Smart

>Smart
>Strong
>Wealthy

Is Scrooge a Mary Sue?

Not at all.

Yes, but the comics are funny so i don't care

>asshole
>antisocial
>no friends
>workaholic
>obsessed with money
Not really.

>Bitter and cynical
>Past his prime
>Greedy as fuck

Nah he got plenty flaws

No, he is just old.

Basically, if you lived a dangerous lifetyle and yet you managed to grow old, by definition you had to be good at what you do. Everyone else lesser than you got weeded out. This is why old people in action stories tend to be badass. Obvious example being Discworld's Cohen. Pic related.

Nah, a lot of shit happened to him for one thing.

Helps to be a fantasy version of Genghis.

>Old and bitter
>No friends
>Workaholic
>Barely sees his family for 20 years, meets them again when he's become a cynical asshole and then throws a fit and gets estranged from them another 20 years
>Greedy and the stingiest duck in the world
His flaws pretty much outweighs his good sides.

>you stepped into the wrong neighborhood
>whippersnapper

He worked hard (and smart) to get to where he is.

Why do people tend to forget that part of being a Mary Sues includes being liked for no good reason? Scrooge has far more enemies than friends, and people who just plain dislike him for being stingy and greedy. Plenty of times these traits bites him in the ass and it's deserved.

not really, he is full of faults

Yes, exactly right. Only Scrooge's extended family are really fond of him on a personal level. His employees and the general citizenry of Duckberg only tolerate him out of necessity, because so much of the city's infrastructure depends on him. And he's never even tried to win over any of his enemies to his side, much less succeeded at it, which is one of the hallmarks of a Sue.

What about Theodore Roosevelt?

also known as the second most powerful person in the world of his time.

Rosa increased his power level bit too much. He was always strong when young but never so strong he could crash a steamboat with brute strength.

That was not brute strength, it was righteous anger

I could give you young Scrooge having Sue-ish traits but even then he's poor, usually loses his gains, and already then his greed and stubbornness gets the best of him at times. Young Scrooge worked hard as balls but doesn't earn much until Yukon, and there he fucks up his love life permanently. He's never universally liked by people when he's young and strong either.

I get that but still, it was one of the most anime cop outs in the duck universe.

It's just fiction, the page describes what actually happens while showing the legend it created.

Well he alienated his own family away from him with his behaviour and even torched an african village once like a criminal. Theres plenty of mistakes he's done and plenty of regrets of his own actions so he's not Mary-Sue despite having superpowers at times.

He's old and worked hard to get where he is.

So, no.

Also when it comes to all of the financial sawy he has, he had to learn each field individually, either by the hard way or mentored someone more expert on the subject. For example John D. Rockerduck's father mentored Scrooge on how to mine copper during the copper-rush age.

>It's just fiction
Doesn't mean it shouldn't be consistent. Best fiction is based on certain rules the author won't break.

No, I mean, it's in-universe fiction. Scrooge even points out most of that shit didn't actually happen in a later story (before reminding everyone that he did trash the place pretty bad regardless)

if you think scrooge is a mary sue, then Half of actually history is full of mary sues by your standards.

That is one dark, uncanny valley.

unlike a most mary sues
he constantly re-iterates that he got to be where he is through hard work and determination, that it was a hard won battle to success
and he has a huge reputation for being a tight fisted skin flint that causes people to be rubbed the wrong way very often, earning many enemies

>bitter
>old
>both of his sisters hate his guts
>has strained relationship with his nephew
>managed to fuck up the only romantic relationship he had during his life
>does not seem to have any real friends, nearest that he has to them are enemies with whom he has somewhat respectful relationship
>his fortune is most likely doomed to be wasted after his death
>can be a colossal dick if his morality reminders aren't present
>it is quite likely that his obsession to become the richest there is ruined his chances of having happy life not filled with worrying about rivals, thieves, and magicians that want to destroy what took him +50 years to build

He worked harder than the hardies and smarter than the smarties to become richer than the richies.

Unfortunately, he's older than the oldies.

I don't think a normal character could get that rich

Exaggeration alone isn't enough to make a character a mary sue.

He's basically Disney Doctor Who, in a way.

you forgot
>isn't inconvenienced by these in the slightest

I didn't know Scrooge had the power to travel through time and space and was essentially a God.

>didn't achieve his goals at the first try
>lost friends as he got more successful
Nope.

Here's a thought. As many people have pointed in this thread, scrooge isn't a mary sue because he isn't near universally liked and adored by all, which is an important part of being a mary sue.
Which is also why usually mary sues are chicks and all the arguments
>b-but batman is a mary sue too, you only care for [female character] being a mary sue, because you're a misgynist
are shit. Being universally liked with no good reason, in fiction, is mostly a female thing. Men can very well be lone wolves who don't give a shit about society and go their own way. Being adored by all is mostly a female self-insert trait.

They come to your neighborhood.

Most versions show that in the 20-something year gap before he reunites with Donald and the triplets he leads a shitty, boring life as a recluse. Scrooge is too stingy to enjoy any luxuries, so he just works and watches his stocks or something.

Scrooge even mentions how he lost the spark of enthusiasm and joy until Donald brought the boys over. Guy was pretty much depressed as fuck.

that's not how marysueing works

Most of Sup Forums doesn't really understand the concept of a Mary Sue. I mean, Hal Jordan is constantly accused of being a Mary Sue in here for some reason.

It doesn't mean "child molester"?

>His greed ruined his relationship with his family and sisters for many many years.
To answer your question, no.

>Cities infrastructure
Try the nation's entire budget.

>Father Prince Vegeta
kek

Hey now, that child was BEGGING to get the D. Plus she looked legal. Can you really blame the man?

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>both of his sisters hate his guts
Hortence probably died hating his guts, but he seems to have reconciled with Matilda by the end of A Letter From Home.

>managed to fuck up the only romantic relationship he had during his life
Possibly not entirely his fault; I think he was going to propose to Goldie at the start of The Last Sled to Dawson, before the aforementioned sled got stuck in a glacier for decades. Failing that last run to Dawson motivated him to get even more ambitious and obsessed with wealth.

>can be a colossal dick if his morality reminders aren't present
That was only after he became rich, hardened, and bitter, though.

You do not even now what that means

If anyone is a Mary Sue its what's his name

The one with super luck

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No.

He learned trough years of hard work he had to be tougher than the toughies and smarter than the smarties. And he made his money square.

None of these make him anything remotely like a Mary Sue though. He likely never reconciled with Hortense and with Mathilda after what, 40-50 years bar that day 20 years ago when he became the richest duck in the world. He never ends up with Goldie and still has flaws and losses.

You talking about Gladstone

When Don Rosa writes him he's a mary sue
when Carl Barks writes him he's not

(also a "mary sue" is a self insert character...so i guess its not really a mary sue)

A Mary Sue isn't someone who has strengths, it's someone who has no faults and never struggles.

Nobody likes Gladstone though. In-universe a Sue is either loved by all or hated by the nasty mean poopyheads who wish they were just as great as the Sue. Donald and Scrooge are our POV characters, Donald hates his fucking guts and Scrooge thinks he's a shallow and vain fool who sails through life understanding the true value of nothing.

Rosa wanks him off a bit too much as a badass hero. Barks had no qualms making him as much an antagonist as he was a hero, his Scrooge was far more flawed and mocked for his cheapness.