Why did no Star Wars writer and no Star Wars fan ever come up with the idea of a hyperspace crash before TLJ...

Why did no Star Wars writer and no Star Wars fan ever come up with the idea of a hyperspace crash before TLJ? This could explain why in the film's universe Holdo was the first person to realize hyperspace could be used as a weapon. Because literally nobody came up with that idea before, not in real life, not in the Star Wars universe.

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>trying this hard to repair the trainwreck.

Then lets discuss how the resistance will survive this new First Order weapon in episode 9.

The real question is, why did they force a human to give up their life when C-3PO could have done it?

C-3PO sells more merch

>that terrible trigger discipline
Pathetic.

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>not in real life
I guess the person who wrote that scene is the first person to come up with it if you're going to include real life

This, it's not like they've even been using C-3PO or R2 anyway, more screen time that could be used for BBC-8

>why in the film's universe Holdo was the first person to realize hyperspace could be used as a weapon
source?

Now explain this

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Yah that's exactly what I meant.

I am sad that I did not see these SW in the cinema, might actually like them, since Laura is in it

There's many works of sci-fi with hyperspace ramming

Give me counter-source that she wasn't.
The First Order didn't think of that because they were enjoying winning.

Because its overpowered in every way and therefore retroactively ruins the entire series.

sci fi in general or Star Wars? If you mean Star Wars please post some. If you don't mean Star Wars then it doesn't count because it's not related to Star Wars and it doesn't happen (or nobody knows about it) inside the Star Wars universe.

>Give me counter-source that she wasn't.
not how it works fag, what can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence :^)

Why were the bombers made out of tissue paper?

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Luke was gay. Give me a counter-source that he wasn't.

So it only means Star Wars writers are idiots, which we all already knew.

No, it is YOUR argument that needs to be asserted with evidence, since you can't prove a negative. I'm stating a negative ("nobody came up with it before in Star Wars"). You have to prove otherwise yourself. The burden of proof is on your side, amigo.

No. They clearly don't have the concept of missiles since they still use dumb bombs. No one has ever thought of that before.

Why didn't the Empire hyperspace jump in front of the Falcon in "Empire Strikes Back"?

Star Wars is not sci fi tho

I don't have any. He was MAYBE bi or at least pretending to be straight in Episodes 4 and 5 where he acted like he found Leia attractive.

Because to be bombers they need to carry extremely potent (and thus unstable) weapons. No amount of hull would have change the fact a single shot can detonate the bombs and explode the whole thing. And it's too small for shields (and bigger it would be destroy by Star Destroyers main canons)

Then why are people suddenly so mad about the hyperspace crash? It's not like Star Wars writers weren't idiots before it happened.

Nah user that's still a positive, you just worded it differently.

Your (positive) assertion is "X happened in Star Wars lore".

Because there was an asteroid field right in front of it ?

No, I never asserted "x happened in star wars lore", I asserted "x never happened". My assertion is "there was never a hyperspace crash before TLJ". The only way to prove that would be to quote every single piece of Star Wars fiction, which you would have to read yourself to see that I'm right or wrong.

Because they're not even subtle about it anymore

Nigga even with our earth tech we can create bombs that don't blow from shocks or being burned.

We don't hit them with laser weapons.

Only after the Empire failed to catch the Falcon right away

Which they could have done by hyperspace jumping in front of them

Nigga we're not even able to protect F-22 from peasants with guns

C3PO hates flying iirc. They should have used R2.

Well no because

*leans into mic*

Hyperspace only works on hyperspace lanes and nobody fights on them because there are ships coming through hyperspace on them.

It's been shown hyperspace jumps need to be precise and calculated. The Falcon is small and fast, if they jumped in front of it, Solo would have probably manage to avoid them by going another way.

But the Rebel flagship isn't exactly doing sharp turns.

Because she is an intelligent strong independent woman, unlike you, other star wars characters (excluding ray and chubi asian, but they didn't have the occasion to come up with it), or those disgusting star wars fans.
She is right, you are wrong, deal with it

>Hyperspace only works on hyperspace lanes
incorrect

well that is bad design. If 1 bombers bombs are enough to take down a dreadnought than they should only keep 1/10th of the load and instead make it more durable. needing to clear out every turret and make sure there are no star fighters around makes them useless.

Better idea. Why didn't the first order swarm the rebel ships with tie fighters until the ships became so crippled that they couldn't keep flying?

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>instead make it more durable
My point is: they can't

It's stated that they cant protect the fighters at that distance (like they ever cared about the fighters lol)

Sorry I forgot some people like crashing into things.

used to be correct. they used mapped corridors instead of blind jumps.

hux and the other imperials react like they know what admiral gender studies is doing, implying that hyperspace ramming is known to them

Because without strong fire support from the star destroyers, tie fighters are sent to their death against the rebel ship defenses. Not everyone is Kylo Ren and they also can't risk him when they have easier ways to get the rebels

And you know this how?
the movie never made a statement to suggest what you're saying.

The only statement they made is that it's WW2 in space. Bombers were an easy target.

I'm assuming they do because it was used in some battle before??
The original trilogy is no longer canon I gues

>star wars in 2018
>sell merch

literally every ship in star wars is made out of paper unless it has plot armor

If Poe can pull off that shit from the beginning of the movie, why can't 200 expendable ties?

you're reaching so hard, can you grab me a beer while you're at it?

>Porgs
>IceFoxes
>Cpt. Phasma
>Chewbacca
Gotta sell those toys

The only answer you need is simple: Hux is an idiot, he wants to take his time killing rebels one ship at the time and enjoy the wait.

*Unless it uses shields
In fact most of them do

It is never mentioned in the movie that it is WW2 in space.
Like I said, it is never explained in the movie why these ships needed to be suicide bombers.
Yet you claim to know anyway.

I assume that's just because they suddenly realize what she's doing. Same way if a guy picks up a rubberband and a toothbrush you realize he's gonna shoot the toothbrush at you using the rubberband even though no one's done that before, to your knowledge.

Tie Fighters and Wings don't have shields.

Only capital ships and elite Ties have some. It's not clear why the Falcon is so resistant except plot armor

This crouser is the one that would be defenseless
The fucking bridge is gone, the hangar is gone,no competent personel left.

The better answer is that Rian Johnson wanted it to happen.

>Hux is an idiot
Well if all the bad guys are pathetic fools, how did they get where they are?

I'm surprised they needed the Resistance help to blow up Starkiller base.

No one "came up with it before" because it's just bad writing.

It makes the entire Death Star plotline irrelevant when they could have just flown a giant spaceship into its core.

It's observation. 80% of the ship is bombs. It has to be unstable.

>how did they get where they are?
There's a line about it in the movie. Snoke said he likes having a fool in command.

Di those really sell? I guess porgs do, but outside of that...? Wasn't there a thread up showing how terrible star wars merch sells are?

They don't have nice shit because they're scrappy rebels.

So how does this new bomber of yours work?
Is it fast?
Hell no
Is it durable?
Hell no
Can shot from a distance?
...

Porgs, BB-8, ships and characters from the OT are selling. Rey selling is also decent but weak for a main character (and because she's often paired with BB-8)

>I assume that's just because they suddenly realize what she's doing.
too bad assumptions aren't worth shit

One of them can destroy a huge capital ship in a few seconds. I can see some tactical advantages with that.

It's a glass canon.

>can it bomb things

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BECAUSE FTL TRAVEL LITERALLY DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY IN STAR WARS

Assumptions are all we've got.

Yes, my point exactly, Snoke, Hux, Kylo, Phasma.
They are all complete morons, so how did they manage to create an organised paramilitary/terror group?

How did the First Order not implode itself with incompetence years before The Force Awakens?

it makes no sense, so I think, that means, it must be a dumb movie.

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Do you think the enemy gives a damn about one ship when they build devices of mass destruction just so they can get hyperramed all the time?
on the other hand the rebels got close to no resources or support or ppl to spare

yeah because the movie is garbage, if the writers weren't willing to think about what they were writing why should I? I'm not doing their job for them

can't wait for an X shaped saber in Rian's trilogy (which he won't include because he's not aware of this sequence)

This guy is pathetic. Devoting so much time to whine about a movie. At least RLM made it a comedic piece but this guy leaves me the image of a middleschooler who just get beat up by bullies and goes on a rant about it to his dad.

RLM loved TLJ
They thought it was subversive

But the cruiser's fighter bays are disabled, so that just leaves the point defence guns. Yet the intro scene establishes that point defence guns are useless against fighters, seeing as Poe disables all of the Dreadnought's turrets single-handedly. Even allowing for the fact that he's an ace pilot, the First Order have the advantage of being able to throw hundreds or even thousands of fighters at the Raddus.

Hell in Empire, when the Falcon was trying to escape, the Imperials had no issue with throwing away as many fighters as they liked, even sending them into an asteroid field.

They are at the position of power because they are right wing nazi white people, they don't earn it, they are given it

>They don't have nice shit because they're scrappy rebels.
Where did they say that in the movie?
nowhere.
On casino planet, Finn learns that the Resistance and the First Order purchase their weapons from the same source.
That should hint that both factions have similar funds.

>How did the First Order not implode itself with incompetence years before The Force Awakens?
Because the Republic is worse.

You know, many leaders in History weren't really bright. Also Snoke likes morons probably because smarter people tends to betray him/don't like to have their mind read all the time.

this guy is right

I mean... it is. It's also why many people hate it.

When you're fighting an enemy so overwhelmingly superior in numbers, you want powerful weapons, even if you take more risks doing so.

Read the fuckin title of the video
A CRITIQUE
do you know the difference between a CRITIQUE and WHINING?

>RLM loved TLJ
> "I have now lost all interest for the franche"
>RLM loved TLJ

I wouldn't mind subversive if it actually bothered to make any sense and wasn't a complete waste of everyone's time

But a single fighter destroys the first Death Star. A single fighter destroys Starkiller Base. A single fighter disables the whole fighter bays of the Raddus. A single fighter blows up the Droid Command Ship.

Why exactly do you need a bomber like this when it's extremely well established in the canon that big targets have weak points that cause them to blow up when hit?

Or the First Order is getting the good stuff because they pay well and rebels get scraps because Leia is broke.

Do you think RLM had any hope for the franchise after Rogue One?

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Post battles that would have been improved with a hyperspace crash, I'll start:
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Rogue One was the best made movie under star wars brand

>many leaders in History weren't really bright
Certainly you can have an idiot king on the throne, but a monarch has no power of his own.

He depends on support from people who does have power, show me 1 ruler who is backed ONLY by incompetent fools and didn't immediately get de-throned.

How do you know no one did and quickly realized how terrible of an idea that would be?

Implying there would be a need for battles when you can just hyperjump into a planet