Reagan

>Wins 40% of the Hispanic vote before amnesty
>win 67% of the Asian Vote
>win 54% of the White vote
>only niggers don't vote for him because of muh gibs be gitten cut nigga!
How did this mad man do it?

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Jelly beans.

He trippled debt btw

He wasn't a bigot like Drumpf.

by winning the cold war, was it worth ? debatable, at least its understandable

He also wasn't a very good president. But at least he knew Russia was not our friend.

>How did this mad man do it?
he came after him

Jimmy Carter was cucked by Iranians and OPEC and people were sick of being perceived as a bitch.

It seems no one learns from history.

24 seconds too late Bruce

Not being and sounding like a cunt

If Trump wasn't such an asshole, we'd have this election in the bag

He ruined the Republican Party and turned freedom-loving liberals into partisan Democrats. He is the reason basically why America is so close to falling.

He also lowered inflation from 12 percent to 3 percent, it was a payoff that's worked for decades. Inflation rate has been stable for 3 decades now and the debt increases without consequences

Do you really think Reagan would cut military spending after the war? Also supposing the cold war never happen would Reagans economic policies really balance the budget?

It's hard to tell, by the end Reagan was clearly not right in the head, the assassination attempt got to him.

There weren't many Mexicans in the country before Reagan

But after Reagan their numbers increased by tens of millions

Bravo Reagan you Alzheimer's riddled good goy.

>he lowered inflation
No actually the oil shortage is what caused inflation in the first place. The oil shortage ended and prices naturally fell

>it was a payoff
I'd rather have 15% inflation than any even minor deficits, it was a terrible payoff he made if he really did

>debt increases without consequences
How long can that continue? Interest will soon take up a huge chunk of the budget.

Immigration law changed in 1965 by Lyndon B. Johnson (colour me surprised).

By 1986 Congress enacted another major law – the Immigration Reform and Control Act – that granted legalization to millions of unauthorized immigrants, mainly from Latin America, who met certain conditions

Reagan in all his craziness had nothing to do with this. At most he can be accused of not bombing the congress

>Wins 40% of the Hispanic vote before amnesty

Because a much larger percentage of hispanic immigrants were whites and cubans than now. White Mexicans and Cubans are both pretty conservative, but the flood of spics has drowned them out.

>win 67% of the Asian Vote

Much of the Asian pop used to be from conservative countries like Japan. Now it is all coming from China, Middle-East, and Pacific Islands.

Over the years, the US has gone from importing top-tier NW euros to importing OK southern/eastern euros to not-completely-shit east asians and white hispanics to 3rd world-tier blacks, muzzies, commie asians, etc.

>No actually the oil shortage is what caused inflation in the first place. The oil shortage ended and prices naturally fell
>prices naturally fell
>prices naturally fell
Do you not have a basic grasp economics or something? It's incredibly difficult to decrease inflation like that and it can not happen naturally, the reason it decreased is because Volker of the federal reserve. Even Ron Paul agreed with that he did

>I'd rather have 15% inflation than any even minor deficits, it was a terrible payoff he made if he really did
Then you're an idiot, 15 percent inflation is a ridiculous amount and awful for an economy. It was at 15 percent because we were doing the exact same thing Germany was doing after WW1 and making more money to pay off debt

pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/09/30/how-u-s-immigration-laws-and-rules-have-changed-through-history/

this is a pretty good, and short article showing how immigration laws changed in the usa

>No actually the oil shortage is what caused inflation in the first place. The oil shortage ended and prices naturally fell

What's worse is that the whole energy crisis that ruined the economies of the west was caused by fucking Israel's war with Egypt which pissed off OPEC

God I hate them so much

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1970s_energy_crisis

They will literally never get their comeuppance for all this bullshit

>Reagan in all his craziness had nothing to do with this

He could have vetoed it

that was what i meant about bombing the congress, I thought that was self explanatory

He didnt because Dems promised that would be the end of it and Reagan needed to compromise. He didnt realize it would be a slippery slope

Yes, but then it wouldn't be as fun

There are no consequences for a presidential veto

Obama vetoed the bill that would let victims of 9/11 sue Saudi Arabia and nothing happened

>listening to Democrats ever

kek

> How did this mad man do it?

He ran against Carter who fucked up and got cucked by Russia and Iran. Remind you of somebody?

>he came after him

Say what you will about Carter, he didn't get 220 marines killed trying to play cowboy in the ME. Reagan was a fuck up.

>Do you not have a basic grasp economics or something? It's incredibly difficult to decrease inflation like that and it can not happen naturally, the reason it decreased is because Volker of the federal reserve. Even Ron Paul agreed with that he did
You clearly don't understand economics. Have you read any John Keynes book in University? Money has to be constantly printed at a rapid raid to prevent spiraling deflation. In fact Keynes predicted and was spot on he said that by 2000 the money supply will have to expand at a super high rate to keep up with deflation due to productivity increases

>Then you're an idiot, 15 percent inflation is a ridiculous amount and awful for an economy. It was at 15 percent because we were doing the exact same thing Germany was doing after WW1 and making more money to pay off debt
You're an idiot. Germany had no other choice than to print money because otherwise they would have a build up of interest. Interest will eventually get really high.

>implying obama got fucked by anyone
Obama is the most aggressive president on earth. Whats with this obama is weak meme

well, most people wanted a crazy, manly Cowboy after spaghetti spilling weak fag that Carter was, just like after Bush, the real question was which Democrat is going to win

M A X I M U M
C H A R I S M A

youtube.com/watch?v=Zyr9OqNFi-o

Because he was in a positive limelight, and he was also a fucking neocon.

He wasn't a racist cuntbag like Chump.

>How did Reagan get minorities to vote for him
By not pandering to racist white people?

>Obama is the most aggressive president on earth.
How's middle school?

>ou clearly don't understand economics. Have you read any John Keynes book in University? Money has to be constantly printed at a rapid raid to prevent spiraling deflation. In fact Keynes predicted and was spot on he said that by 2000 the money supply will have to expand at a super high rate to keep up with deflation due to productivity increases
Lmao, exactly, at a rate of around 3 percent and at a stable rate, not fucking 15 percent where the inflation rate was heading and not at an increasing rate. It's as if you believe he was advocating for ever increasing hyper inflation

>You're an idiot. Germany had no other choice than to print money because otherwise they would have a build up of interest. Interest will eventually get really high.
And we were doing the same thing until we realized the debt literally did not matter and it was more important to control the inflation that was spiraling out of control. If that debt is ever asked to payed it would crash the entire system and it would never happen

He's aggressive in the same way a low funcitoning autist is aggressive

He has completely fucked up all of his aims.

Syrian War is a failure
Libyan War is a failure
Iran is a total disaster
Turkey has switched sides to Russia
Israel is thinking of switching sides to Russia
nytimes.com/2016/10/18/opinion/israel-knows-that-putin-is-the-middle-easts-new-sheriff.html

The coup in Ukraine has ultimately failed to stop RUssia in the Middle East

Obama has even lost the Philippines.

Oh and he created a Migrant Crisis that is spurring the right in Europe

Pretty much the only totally cucked country left on earth is Canada

Well, Trump has 58,1% of white vote,35% of the latino vote and 50% of the minorities votes(non black or hispanic).

graphics.latimes.com/usc-presidential-poll-dashboard/#perceived-vote

He can beat Reagan

and he let Internet go, and first he fucked us and Czechs from the anti nuke missile deal that Bush secured, and after Iran was dealt diplomatically he puts missiles in Romania, basically on Russian border.

He is a fucking autist

He wants to go to war with Putin invated Libya killed gaddafi and laughed and drones have even attacked American citizens.

>Lmao, exactly, at a rate of around 3 percent and at a stable rate, not fucking 15 percent where the inflation rate was heading and not at an increasing rate. It's as if you believe he was advocating for ever increasing hyper inflation
I'm not in favour of 15% inflation but it's worth it to get rid of the debt

>And we were doing the same thing until we realized the debt literally did not matter and it was more important to control the inflation that was spiraling out of control
It does matter. Every year we have to pay interest on it

>If that debt is ever asked to payed it would crash the entire system and it would never happen
Why wouldn't it happened

But he is really aggressive still he droned so many people to death

Why isn't Russia our friend? The UK and Israel is far more sinister.

>He wants to go to war with Putin
At some point even cucks like you have to realize that it's not all America's fault. A superpower can't hide forever from a bully like Putin.

> even attacked American citizens
Because the previous presidents were all soft with jihadists.

yes well that was counted as "humane warfare"

Remember when he took office he was saying that Afghanistan was the "good war". Then he began his multi country drone campaign over numerous countries.

The only result has been lots of pissed off Muslims.

He talked like a reasonable libertarian during campaign, but didn't really deliver as such.

>He is a fucking autist

Yknow, autism may just be the best way to describe Obama's presidency. He just does whatever the democratic puppet masters tell him to do. He has no personal values of his own. To someone outside of the system his seemingly impulsive decisions make him look like an autist with no self-control.

>Because the previous presidents were all soft with jihadists.
suuuure

>I'm not in favour of 15% inflation but it's worth it to get rid of the debt
It's not, we'd end up like Zimbabwe or germany after ww1 it would be a disaster. The only way debts like these are payed are if there is war and you kill the people you are in debt to

>It does matter. Every year we have to pay interest on it
That's nothing compared to the insanity we'd fall into if we started printing money to pay it off, that's be a nation wide suicide

>Why wouldn't it happened
Because that would destroy the entire world economy and the countries asking for the debt to be payed would be hurt the most from it...

>I'm not in favour of 15% inflation but it's worth it to get rid of the debt

inflation is a farm of tax on people who can't save their wealth in a foreign country or assets like gold and land
it's a tax on the poorest

>from a bully like Putin

Did Putin bomb Libya? Did Putin fund Jihadists in Syria? Did Putin invade Iraq?

The most you can point to is Crimea a region of ethnic Russians that was host to a critical Russia naval base that was only invaded *after* a coup in the Ukraine funded by neocons. Also the "invasion" resulted in all of 0 deaths.

>previous presidents were all soft with jihadists.

Obama was the one funding Jihadists

youtube.com/watch?v=ccdeANvo2bg

no inflation is a tax on creditors and people with large sums of uninvested cash

it actually helps debtors and has no affect on workers (since prices and wages rise at the same time)

The worst thing for the poor is high taxes on labor (social security tax, payroll tax, any other regressive tax etc) and monopolies that price gouge for basic public goods and services. Just look at Carlos Slim in Mejico

cnet.com/news/telecom-monopoly-overcharging-mexicans-billions/

>It's not, we'd end up like Zimbabwe or germany after ww1 it would be a disaster. The only way debts like these are payed are if there is war and you kill the people you are in debt to
And Zimbebwe/Germany were still 1000x better off than if they tried to pay off the debts via taxation. Also debts can be payed legally

>That's nothing compared to the insanity we'd fall into if we started printing money to pay it off, that's be a nation wide suicide
No it'd just be 10% inflation at least. The 70s had it and it was just fine

>Because that would destroy the entire world economy and the countries asking for the debt to be payed would be hurt the most from it...
Why do banks care about the economy? They crashed it in 08. They might recall all the money, what if Goldman Sachs just decided fuck it and wanted the money back?

Well how else will you pay the interest?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Eagle_Claw

well lets be honest

Zimbabwe was never going to be good because it's just a country of a bunch of niggers who chased off whitey

But Germany was much better off when Hitler canceled the debts and increased demand and production, essentially by edict.

He sacrificed California and destroyed marriage

Here's the deal about 1986

>1.
Reagan always supported some form of amnesty. Look up: Reagan Bush Immigration debate. He and HW were arguing over who would cuck harder on immigration.

>2.
He appealed to Tipp O'Neill so he could get the rest of his agenda along. He and congress battled over taxes alone 11 times and the budget almost as many

>3.
The actual act:
>required employers to attest to their employees' immigration status;
>made it illegal to hire or recruit illegal immigrants knowingly;
>legalized certain seasonal agricultural illegal immigrants, and;
>legalized illegal immigrants who entered the United States before January 1, 1982 and had resided there continuously with the penalty of a fine, back taxes due, and admission of guilt; candidates were required to prove that they were not guilty of crimes, that they were in the country before January 1, 1982, and that they possessed minimal knowledge about U.S. history, government, and the English language.

Even though none of that shit was really enforced.

I think if Nixon or Eisenhower were president, they would have said okay to a greater federal budget and higher tax rates if it meant strong borders/immigration policies. RWG thought the opposite.

>no inflation is a tax on creditors and people with large sums of uninvested cash

places where there is high inflation also happens to have high speculation of land, preservation of wealth through foreign currency (and of course, very volatile exchange rates are subjected to speculation) and other methods. Rich people will always do anything they can to not let inflation erode their wealth. Poor people, on the other hand, they don't have wealth saved, what erodes is their purchasing power, they are directly hurt by the rise of prices and are pushed to higher income brackets (meaning having to paying more taxes) if their wages are even raised according to inflation.

> Did Putin bomb Libya?
Europe, particularly France and the UK bombed it because Gaddafi lost control and mass slaughter of civilians was imminent.

>Did Putin fund Jihadists in Syria?
Not just any jihadists, a tiny minority sect including Hizbollah who have no business running that country.

> "invasion" Ukraine
Nothing like that has happened in Europe since Hitler. You want the West to just sit back and wait till it's NATO countries getting invaded? The internal developments in Russia show that it's a country moving towards totalitarianism. Just bad news for everybody.

>But Germany was much better off when Hitler canceled the debts and increased demand and production, essentially by edict.
You know the debt trippled under Hitler right? He never cancelled it he expanded it. It was 35 billion by the time he left office.

>I'm not in favour of 15% inflation but it's worth it to get rid of the debt
Do you understand why we (rich western countries) have such debt? We borrow so we don't have to pay our bills with inflation or taxes, and it's backed by "faith and credit" in our economies/productivity. So long as OPEC and China keep investing their surpluses into our debt securities, while we in the West in turn buy their Oil and manufactured goods, the system is more or less stable.

Stay far the Hell away from public office.

Grew up during Reagan...y'all niggas missed it: youtu.be/_fy-uhxiXcE

Please don't vote, you clearly don't understand shit. Debt is worse than inflation because you have to pay it back plus interest in the future.

You know that cycle involves our debts getting bigger and bigger and bigger until we can't pay the interest without cutting 50% of the budget.

Purchasing power isn't erdoded by CPI

it's eroded by an expansion in debt and by monopolies

>Rich people will always do anything they can to not let inflation erode their wealth

Which is why the rich want stagnation and deflation

That's what really hurts the economy because it ruins production, business , and ultimately increases the unemployment rate.

That's where the US has been for years now, we are in perpetual stagnation.

>Gaddafi lost control and mass slaughter of civilians was imminent

kek no

these are all tired myths pushed by Hillary Clinton

huffingtonpost.com/dan-kovalik/clinton-emails-on-libya-e_b_9054182.html

>France and the UK bombed it

kek no the whole thing was a Shilldog project

americanthinker.com/articles/2015/10/hillarys_genocide_lie.html

>NATO countries getting invaded?

kek that's the dumbest shit ever
no one is going to nuclear war over Eastern Europe. At least as long as Shillary isn't in office.

which is irrelevant

only the productive capacity and the utilization of that capacity in the economy matters

Everything else is just numbers.

>Say what you will about Carter, he didn't get 220 marines killed trying to play cowboy in the ME.

He got Americans killed trying to rescue the hostages in Iran. One of the helicopters flew into a plane, I shit you not.

That's because there were a lot less Hispanics in the country back then. And many were whiter Hispanics such as Spanish Cubans, and some of the Tejanos were white.

We've been flooded with mestizos ever since then, and no surprise, they tend to favor socialism.

And the Asians who came over largely were from communist countries and wanted freedom. But the new Asians are very young and get indoctrinated in college. A lot of them go full blown SJW.

>only the productive capacity and the utilization of that capacity in the economy matters
What happens when almost everything produced gets given to the banks because the government raises taxes as high as possible to pay off the debt? Is that just "numbers?"

And what happens when the debt becomes 200% of GDP and even 4% interest becomes shipping 8% of your countries wealth to banks every year.

Tell me why Jews want Mexicans in the US. A lot of Mexicans are more antijewish than "White" Americucks.

>And Zimbebwe/Germany were still 1000x better off than if they tried to pay off the debts via taxation. Also debts can be payed legally
Monetizing debts is a great way to tank the credit rating of a country and send currency valuation down a viscous cycle, especially when other nations hold vast reserves of them and may trigger selloffs. Do you not realize the purpose of debt in the first place? It's not some evil (though may be unsustainable high at some point) that was supernaturally created out of a witch's cauldron. It's a third way to keep the lights on, the NHS and Medicare funded, and troops armed and fed that isn't taxation nor inflation. In fact, it's more flexible than either of them, because it gives the nation a greater variety of options to pay it off (selling public assets, selling arms/funding/training, diplomatic/military support in a certain conflict, some inflation here, some taxation there, some long term debt, some short term, some convertible as need be).

>No it'd just be 10% inflation at least. The 70s had it and it was just fine
??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Are we living in the same universe?
In the US, the 70s were hellish due to Stagflation, and it wasn't until Volcker triggered a market corrective recession through interest rates did we see the end of it.

In Canada, deregulation and freeing up of trade and internal markets saw a general rise in GDP and taxable revenue- coming out of the 70s.


>Why do banks care about the economy? They crashed it in 08. They might recall all the money, what if Goldman Sachs just decided fuck it and wanted the money back?

Hey, remember when the government forced subprime onto the banking system in the name of countering "discriminatory housing and lending practices"?

Noted, it was not the only factor involved, but it was a big one.

>Debt is worse than inflation because you have to pay it back plus interest in the future.

Inflation is higher than the interest rate on US treasury bonds, it's literally free money.

>Purchasing power isn't erdoded by CPI

how so?
inflation is impoverishment, plain and simple. You money is worth less, the government keeps more of it, you become poorer. Trust me, I know.

>Which is why the rich want stagnation and deflation
rich people want cheap credit, which generates inflation. They always lobby for it.
What I am saying is that they have means to protect themselves from inflation, while poor people do not have such means.

Because you guys are stupid, that's why.

Mestizo IQ is like 85, white IQ average is 100.

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>>NATO countries getting invaded?
> kek that's the dumbest shit ever

Well kek-ing genius, check out the ethnic map of Estonia for example.

> kek no
> kek no

Of course some random little boy like you doesn't have to make decisions in the real world, so you can believe in any conspiracy theory detached from reality.

>everything produced gets given to the banks

Uh no it's the exact opposite the surplus goes to the productive part of the economy (producers and consumers) banks are left out of the loop.

But that's assuming you don't have a system like the FED around to "bypass" the treasury and give money directly to banks.

But these are all political decisions, there's no reason for the FED to exist at all.

>Europe, particularly France and the UK bombed it because Gaddafi lost control and mass slaughter of civilians was imminent.
Nothing to do with trying to oust Gaddafi all along, even arming, funding, and training rebels against him, his regime, and his army.
This wasn't a controlled burn like what the US attempted in the Balkans. It was more like a wrecking ball.

>Not just any jihadists, a tiny minority sect including Hizbollah who have no business running that country.
I'm not going to argue with you there; it's known that Hezbollah is an Iranian proxy and a Russian proxy when needed. It's difficult when Russia wants to conduct diplomacy with Israel, though.

They still pale in comparison in numbers and arms to the Sunni proxies the US supported in Syria.

>Nothing like that has happened in Europe since Hitler. You want the West to just sit back and wait till it's NATO countries getting invaded? The internal developments in Russia show that it's a country moving towards totalitarianism. Just bad news for everybody.

>US supports coup
>US supports puppet government
>Legitimate government sides with Russia
>Russia occupies Crimea, a land more historically Russian than it is Ukrainian
>Half of Ukraine identifies with Russia and being Russian

I am worried if the Russian and Iranians are supporting the Houthi Rebels in Yemen, but they have the slight moral high ground in the Ukraine proxy conflict.

Listen, i dont want to argue.

because wages rise with CPI

wow you totally corrected the record. Obviously Putin will start a nuclear war over fucking Estonia.

I am now a #HillShill

>He also wasn't a very good president. But at least he knew Russia was not our friend.

you're right, he was a GREAT president. You have no fucking clue if you think he wasn't

You don't know what a fucking mess ford and carter made of this country. Nor do you know just how fucked we were in the cold war when Reagan took the reigns of power. Reagan not only won the cold war, but he ignited the greatest economic and technological explosion in human history.

Doesn't no one really remember that this foo was an actor???
LITERALLY

Both of you have half the story.

What really matters are
>Percentage of debt to GDP
>Percentage of debt growth to GDP growth

Supposedly,
>Hitler ran up debts equal to about 675 percent of GDP
but considering the assets/land he was taking, and later, the risks he was fighting against, it may have been justifiable, though IMO unsustainable

Whoa
Can I get sauce with this bish?

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Fucking checking my own cause I went with my gut on the picture.
Fuck yeah.

He was going to sell out the country to foreigners.

>because wages rise with CPI

12 months late

funny how some people believe that printing money is a magical thing that can pay off debt without it coming from real world, real people's pockets.

Thank you good sir.
Let's MAGA. For the sake of all humanity.

we're going to make brazil pay off our debt, nothing you can do about it

>Nothing to do with trying to oust Gaddafi all along
Replace Gaddafi with Mubarak and realize how dumb your theories are.

>Half of Ukraine identifies with Russia and being Russian
Funny that America used to identify as English speaking anglos but that didn't stop it from rebelling against the empire.

> but they have the slight moral high ground in the Ukraine proxy conflict.
There's like a dozen laws and treaties Russia has broken, so I don't think so.

Somehow in your world view America is responsible for literally every human being's action in the world and must always be blamed first. That's fucking retarded.

>12 months late

where are you getting that? Rising CPI means money becomes worth less on all fronts.

You actually want a healthy inflation rate to spur production and spending.

Stagnation is what causes unemployment and poverty not inflation.

The greatest period of deflation in American history was the Great Depression.

Deflation destroys consumer demand and investment.

>Obviously Putin will start a nuclear war over fucking Estonia.
Obviously he could send large numbers of unmarked troops across the border and use the Russian minority as human shields.

That's not nuclear war, you fucking retard. And NATO is completely unprepared to deal with it.

I know you said >Listen, i dont want to argue.

But I have to reply to this
>Debt is worse than inflation because you have to pay it back plus interest in the future

Two issues with this
>1.
One can reasonably calculate the projected future costs of repaying debts+interest to a certain date. Debt is taken on or sold contractually, and done so as need be. It's transparent and flexible.

The same cannot be said for calculating the projected future costs of inflation. The duration and intensity of the inflation are up to countless variables. Prediction of its results are opaque and control over it is limited.

>2.
Debt is something that is voluntarily taken on and can healthily recycle assets between economies
(e.g. Products sold to the US leading to USD held by the sellers leading to investment in US debt which facilitates US economic growth, rinse repeat.)

Inflation is diseconomics. The holders of US dollars domestically or abroad do not benefit. US exports only marginally benefit since they still wouldn't be able to compete with China for low-end exports and the high-end-exports market like pharma/software/technology would just be hurt by having less-value-dollars in exchange for their sale. Manufacturers and commodities sellers do not benefit from not having a safe place to park their surpluses. The only thing that may improve is the domestic employment rate, but not because any intrinsic increased economic demand for employment, but because payroll is cheaper to make, even though this downward pressure on unemployment is still met with upward pressures from in-sourcing, outsourcing, and automation, making them marginal.

Robert Mugabe stay go.

No, Paul Volcker lowered inflation and Volcker was made chairman of the Fed by Carter.

You are a child because you are so stupid

Suuure

Suuure

Leave it to a leaf to hate on one of the best US presidents in modern times. Thats why when his re election came he won in an absolute landslide of 49 states