Redpill me on gmos

>Redpill me on gmos

Are they really bad as some seem to think? Why in the fuck are they outlawed in China and Russia?

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Monsanto=Soros.

They result from a collusion with the pharmaceutical industry, so you all become dependent on medication later in your life.

They're actually really good. Don't trust retards who want to stand in the way of science. They're the only way corn can grow in some shit countries. The way they are policed is fucked up but that's to protect millions of dollars of research. Don't stand in the way of the future like a retard.

They're saving millions of lives.

They fundamentally do the same thing as breeding and crossbreeding, but much, much faster.

GMOs are just modifying the genetica of plants, people have been doing this for thousands of years by selectively breeding plants with better traits. The methods now are much more advanced but people get this notion that they inject plants with radioactive poisonous chemicals and eating GMOs will somehow cause autism and cancer when youre actually just eating a fruit that was made to taste better.

Thats a funny looking hot dog

Is there any legitimate research that shows they damage your health?

GMOs = Overproduction + Dependency on (((approved))) seed = erosion of national food suppliers and supremacy of corporate farms.


A vote for GMOs is a vote for joblessness, multinational corporate control and slavery.


Not to mention that safety tests are utterly bought and paid for.

It's like a hammer, you can use it to build a table, but you can also bash someone's head in.
Now imagine someone's paying you to swap certain genes for a different set, coincidentally, the genes you're removing did nothing, and the ones you put in, damage hormonal balance or cause mutations.

>crossbreeding
>same as selective edition of genes
are You retarded?

>inserting new sequences is the same as controlling expression of individual genes
No.

Science fag here, can confirm.

Not saying there isn't stupid shit going on, just saying that were not looking in the right place.

>Yes

Breeding is the wide scale broad stroke method of merging two unique sequences.

Genetic engineering is the scalpel that only touches a specific gene.

One could change roughly ~20,000 genes at random, the other changes 1 gene directly.

ZOGfood

that bearded dragon looks comfy

Why is there a dragon in your bun?

They're terrible. Monsanto Inc is rubbing their hands.

Well humans are GMOs so why does it even matter? We're too separated from God's flow to be able to fully benefit from a natural diet.

They aren't bad.

However, the people who sell them know no limits when it comes to exploitative capitalism. They will inevitably kill people with this shit to maximize profits.


Basically, they need to be banned to stop the retards from doing yet another wave of harm.
Otherwise we will have asbestos-level shilling and death.

China and Russia ban them to protect their domestic production in a way that is acceptable in the arena of modern global politics

>Make farming more efficient

GMOs are way better than organic. Why do upper class white people think they are doing the world a favor by LARPing as an 1800s homesteader when they are actively contributing to world hunger by promoting shitty outdated methods of farming on a mass scale?

1. They are unnecessary. We have enough food already, its the distribution of it that is the issue. first world countries for example throw away about half of their food.
2. Once in nature you wont get them out of it anymore since their polls go everywhere.
3. Some are designed to be more withstanding against pesticides and herbicides (especially the monsato ones) so you can use stronger doses of those, which will lead to more resistent pests and herbs which will lead to stronger persticides and herbicides and so on. (just like too much antibiothika usage is an issue)
4. Some are made to produce their herbicide itself. Those however are found to cause organfailures.
5. The implementations of new genes could cause effects beyond our understanding making it probably even more dangerous than we can think of right now, but will see in a few decades

just stay away from that stuff

do you have a dog? that is a genetically modified organism. do you like modern corn? also a GMO.

It would take a *lot* of breeding to get a dog that glows in the dark.
It doesn't take much to do the same with GMO.

GMO removes the safeguards that prevent the lobbies from going fullretard and wiping out humanity for more shekels.

naturalsociety.com/new-study-ge-crops-dont-increase-crop-yields/
read this and the first point of

>One could change roughly ~20,000 genes at random, the other changes 1 gene directly.

the other can inject fish dna into plants, directly.

It is nothing like selective breeding.

this is hotdog in america?

for me, gmo-food/crops, vaccines, the shit they put in water, etc. are things that are generally good, but people need to be reminded not to become complacent.

If someone can simply slap a "SCIENCE" sticker on something and instantly no one questions it, there is a problem

That's why USA has so many morbidly obese people, you don't see that in Russia and China.

it is not selective breeding at all. Completely different ballpark. Completely different fucking planet.

> first world countries throw away
Jesus it's like your parents telling you to eat your food because if starving African kids.
The point of GMOs in third world is so they can grow shit in areas they couldn't grow them before and not having to rely on imports. Self reliance.

>implying these lives should be saved

>Monsanto
>self reliance

No do not eat lizard!!!

DELET THIS

Why force it in first-world countries then?

It's just shit that people changed the genes on. It can be dangerous, obviousilly, and it can be healthy. Just be aware of what you put in your mouth please.

GMOs caused the population boom of the 1930s... now people wanna bitch about it.... because corporations are getting beat by Monsanto, so they are spreading propaganda.

If you don't want to eat GMOs, because you're bluepilled... then go pay more money to eat something else, it's that easy.

its not the food you buy and dont eat, but the food in the supermarket as well which will just get thrown away. if those would be redistributed there wouldnt be worldhunger anymore. but if noone hungers anymore it would be apparent that not the supply but the system responsible for its distribution is faulty and you wouldnt have an excuse anymore to sell food at a high prize. It would also make people realize that africa is such a shithole because of the exploition thats going on for decades or even centuries. Africa has so many ressources, if they wouldnt be exploited they could just export those and import food. but that is not wanted.

Monsanto makes their money in America. Africa can keep some scraps so Monsanto can write that off and not pay taxes.

Think of it this way:
>Price Monsanto makes selling Bushel of Corn in America: $100
>Price Monsanto makes trying to sell Bushel of Corn in Africa: $1
>Tax Writeoff Monsanto makes GIVING Bushel of corn to Afirca: $25

>Are they really bad as some seem to think?
no

>Science fag here
post your degree in genetics and agriculture or drink bleach.

You don't seem to know what the fuck you're talking about m8.

Please fucking stop posting and kill yourself.

They are both good and bad. It allows the west to create crops that can grow anywhere and feed a large population pretty easily.

The problem is that we send these crops to 3rd world countries where they grow it and and now instead of 8 of their 12 kid's starving to death they all live and each pop out more kids.

>then go pay more money to eat something else, it's that easy.

How do you do that? they are not labeled and during the TTIP discussions it was made clear that labeling isnt wanted because it could lose them some profit. you effectively have no method to tell if its GMO or not unless you look into its genes which the average guy wont be able to. together with that animals we later eat, or drink the milk of are feeded with GMOs, which also isnt labled making it even harder to stay away from them completely since the consumption of GMOs could very well also have effects on the animals body which will than effect us again

>GMOs caused the population boom of the 1930s...

citation needed

>im just claiming the other guy is wrong without being able to say why, just because i dont like what he wrote

Are you stupid or just pretending?

You can't patent corn but you can patent gmo corn designed to aggressively spread and replace all corn in the world and then sue every other person on the planet who grows corn for having your corn in their fields without your permission creating a massive worldwide corn monopoly allowing you to charge whatever price you want. So they're outlawed in China and Russia cause fuck Monsanto pretty much.

It's bad because you're looking at a future where they will work out all forms of independence from the system via science for your 'convenience' and to 'save lives.' Pretty similar to how they will intentionally influence one to fight for ZOG and lose a limb. Then they will fund research to support augmentation of that lost limb.

So you accept it simply because it helps you! Then it gets to the point where you're taking drugs for it. You're now fully robotic, because, that's the future, goy!

This is that way as they learn to destroy the environment slowly through rising pH levels and we all eventually have to live in district domes and everything outside is a barren wasteland due to allowing science to be controlled by these people who are using fags like and who only get support for what they love, since, it coincides with Jewish fantasy/plot to control all forms of independence.

The science wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't for the sole purpose of eventually destroying any natural way to be independent and free. Since this slow decaying downfall is in fact meant to be that way and also meant to take away any form of freedom, slice-by-slice, as though it is salami.

The main loss of freedoms for the future are happening now in the subconscious mind. By this I mean you have to be willing in order to accept something such as propaganda. Many sci-fi and educational documentaries push the point of watching it for pleasure. Thus you let down your guard and then many find themselves subconsciously accepting of things they previously would not be. But that isn't enough as I mentioned they have to worm it into your life in some manner that is convenient or seems helpful. Whether that is to you directly or to those you may love which would be indirect.

Either way all science at the moment is only being directed toward controlling the people en masse in the future, or being locked away til it can be profited from.

>you can patent gmo corn designed to aggressively spread and replace all corn in the world and then sue every other person on the planet who grows corn for having your corn in their fields without your permission creating a massive worldwide corn monopoly allowing you to charge whatever price you want. So they're outlawed in China and Russia cause fuck Monsanto pretty much.
>tfw it's not what i meant when i said i wanted to live in a world from ancap memes

kek

they don't create GMO's to satisfy the needs of poor thirdworld countries

monsanto isn't a very caring organization nor do they have morals.

...they aren't outlawed in china

ever heard of golden rice?

anti-GMO faggots are like vegans x water filter salesmen

the main issue is that a large amount of GMO crops were engineered mainly just to take more pesticides.

the (((most reputable research))) will tell you pesticides like Roundup, active ingredient glyphosate won't harm humans in the small amounts you find in your food, but from what I've seen organophosphates like glyphosate should really fuck your shit up even in smaller amounts

I really suggest people take a good look into whats in their food and water, it's pretty fucking disgusting honestly

This. So much this.

The only correct answer

Looks pretty tasty but needs yellow mustard, the only mustard.

That are some very substantial arguments you have there my friends.

Yes

It was a rather genius usage of patent laws. If there's one thing you can say about Soros, he knows how to be a supervillain.

>be Sup Forumsa/k/
>finally make dream of self sustaining farm reality
>some faggots 10km away use gmo
>this shit invade your crop and there is nothing you can do to stop it beside burning it all down
>before you pull the trigger on flamethrower you lawyer call
>tests found crop™ in your field and you have to pay 2kk fine
I personally know few people who get fucked like this, go ahead and make reasonable counter argument to this because you just can't.

Dumb leaf, shut the fuck up about things you don't know

Yeah, but that isn't gmos harming your health, that's bullshit laws an beurocrats.

Not true. Cases where you didn't intentionally replant seeds that were accidentally pollinated will always win in court. This has happened every time Monsanto has tried.

You're speaking about Monsanto nonsense, which is the typical boogeyman people then extrapolate to ALL GMOs.

GMOs aren't inherently-bad, much to the chagrin of many.

nigger you don't need to know much to know the difference

there IS a difference between taking two different tomatoplants and let them mate, to cutting up a fish and putting him into to the tomato plant

(if anyone now comes out to tell me "they dont put fishes into plants you idiot" just shut the fuck up because i know it just the DNA they put into the plant. just tried to show how ridiculous the statement "crossbreeding=GMOs" is)

So if Mosanto is Soros controlled

And lobbying against GMO's has made it easier for monsanto to dominate the market

Is it likely that Soros sponsored the lobbyists in order to make it harder for smaller firms to enter the GMO market?

>Redpill me on gmos
We've been doing it for 12 thousand years but now there's test tubes involved so it's evul.
>Are they really bad as some seem to think?
No.
>Why in the fuck are they outlawed in China and Russia?
Hysteria.

>why are they outlawed in China and Russia?
Because China and Russia give in to scare tactics, bribery and corruption in their policies more than logic and science in some contrast to the west.

Are they harmful?
No. Find out for yourself. Do a basic study of genetics. Then read one of the hundreds of trial studys that have been conducted on consumption of GMO's.

What is harmful though and has led to a large amount of stomach and intestinal cancers is the consumption of crops sprayed with Weed killer, and pesticides. Something unnecessary if GMO's were allowed be less heavily regulated.

Yes you can avoid fine, rotting out gmo is what will ruin you, it's almost impossible to do so without burning everything down and that generate costs, then next year you go through the same bullshit again because guy who use gmo don't plan to stop.

>We've been doing it for 12 thousand years but now there's test tubes involved so it's evul.

where did peope just get this fucking meme? god.

what we did for thousands of years was taking a tomato plant, and looked if their pollen can fertilize another tomato plant and see what happens, or even a different plant and see if those get fertilized. thats crossbreeding.


what is done now is taking the genes of fish or other living beings and implement them into plants which otherwise would never be able to get them since a fucking fish cant mate with a plant. Now that isnt even an issue. the issue is that genes often work together with other genes to express a trait. while a gene in the fish makes him grow quicker through the combination of the other genes, in the tomato plant it might react differently to the genes creating the most painfull toxin you can think of. it could be expressed in a way that causes substances that causes a sudden growth of cancer when consumed for 10 years making us only realize how bad it is when its too late. it could make people impotant when just consumed long enough.

THAT IS NOT FUCKING CROSSBREEDING

Soros plans for both you idiot.