Was it really worth 11 Oscars?

Was it really worth 11 Oscars?

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Obviously no. It was a combination of awarding the entire trilogy, plus weak competition that year.

>t. nigger

The LOTR trilogy is at the absolute pinnacle of filmmaking craftsmanship, ambition and innovation at every level. You literally can't ask for more from a movie than this. Yeah it was worth 11 Oscars and any other award they could've possibly given.

Look, I like all kinds of movies, but I hate the mindset that the only films that are "award-worthy" are dark, serious adult dramas and art-house films. To make something with genuine mass appeal, that is positive and spiritually uplifting, without sacrificing quality storytelling or filmmaking, is the most difficult and worthwhile thing a movie can accomplish. Peter Jackson and his team pretty much climbed Mount Everest with this one, and if you think that doesn't deserve awards just because it was popular and children liked it, then you're just cynical.

this but unironically

What they said. It's easily the most wholesome thing in the past 30 years of cinema.

Literally this

It certainly deserved the technical oscars like makeup, sound mixing, art direction, music, costume design etc. It did however snub City of God at times.

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The only real competition was Master and Commander. It was Pete's turn though, there were so many wrong turns they could've taken so after three great movies they deserve to shower in oscars.

Good post

No. It was capeshit for manchildren. Didn't even include the Scouring of the Shire.

FotR was far better than the later two

tpbp

>Didn't even include the Scouring of the Shire.
finally someone who gets it

God fearing faggot. The time to shill for these dog shit movies was decades ago.

They still haven't been topped.

For the categories it won in, yeah, it deserved to win. It was a damn good movie.

Capeshit quality cgi. Lame pg13 battle scenes. Cucked characters. Annoying tiny people. All sorts of gay. Terrible movies. Tolkien was a fail.

no, it was the worst in the trilogy and, though a great movie, the things that would later destroy the hobbit were already seeping in at that point.

>Tolkien was a fail.

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You won't fit in this way

This 100%

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The Fellowship was the only one that was truly good, even based Viggo agrees.
>All three LOTR films were nominated for best picture at the Academy Awards, with the final installment, The Return of the King, taking that top prize, as well as a best director statue for Jackson. But Mortensen has a decidedly different take on the quality of the films. He believes The Fellowship of the Ring is the best movie in the franchise, in part because Jackson relied less on special effects for that outing.

>“Peter was always a geek in terms of technology but, once he had the means to do it, and the evolution of the technology really took off, he never looked back,” Mortensen says. “In the first movie, yes, there’s Rivendell, and Mordor, but there’s sort of an organic quality to it, actors acting with each other, and real landscapes; it’s grittier.”

>Mortensen says the “ballooning” of Jackson’s reliance on CGI began with the second film, The Two Towers, and has increased with each subsequent project. “It was grandiose, and all that, but whatever was subtle, in the first movie, gradually got lost in the second and third. Now with The Hobbit, one and two, it’s like that to the power of 10,” Mortensen says.

>Mortensen has deliberately chosen more character-driven fare since LOTR launched him into global superstardom, and had hopes that Jackson might return to his small-film roots as well.

>“I was sure he would do another intimately scaled film like Heavenly Creatures, maybe with this project about New Zealanders in the First World War he wanted to make,” Mortensen says. “But then he did King Kong. And then he did The Lovely Bones - and I thought that would be his smaller movie. But the problem is, he did it on a $90million budget. That should have been a $15million movie. The special effects thing, the genie, was out of the bottle, and it has him.”


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This but unironically

Ummmmmm sweetie did you see Paul feige's masterful weaving of separate superhero storylines into a rich tapestry that is MCU ?

Yes.

No, it should have been awarded more Oscars desu senpai

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>Capeshit quality cgi

I'm still discovering shots that I thought were real were CGI to this day. I recently discovered the fellowship running across the bridge of Khazad-Dum were using entirely 3D models of the cast. Some of the CG is hit and miss though obviously, the films were made in the early 2000's but they've held up remarkably well.

Pretty much this. LOTR is the second of great trinity of kino trilogies. Star Wars was the first Jim is currently making the third.

extremely redpilled as always

Will Peter Jackson ever come back and make a good movie ??

>Based Mortensen has top tier taste

Doesn't surprise me at all.

The Fellowship will age good, the rest two not so much. All explained clearly by viggo here

This guy gets it.

cringe. i can hear the snark and reddit through my monitor.

Can you fuck off please newfag?

They were all made the same way. Viggo pasta is fake.

Mine doesn't have that. I kind of wish it did lmao

telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/10826867/Viggo-Mortensen-interview-Peter-Jackson-sacrificed-subtlety-for-CGI.html

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I used to think Return of the King was the weakest film until I actually got around to watching the extended versions. Which is weird, because it felt overly long in theaters, but they also really butchered a lot of important character arcs for the theatrical cut. It plays better as a longer movie.

I agree with Viggo on some level, but there was really no way to adapt The Two Towers and Return of the King without a lot of special effects. Fellowship was the first act of the story, it was mostly devoted to setting up the characters and their relationships, it was more of an "actor's movie" so it's only natural that one of the actors would feel that way. But do you really think it would've been the right move for Jackson to cut out the massive battles from the second two films, and replace them with dialogue, so the actors would be less bored?

There were a few corny moments in there, sure, but overall I think Jackson represented what was in the books in the best way anyone could've. Viggo is just whining because actors like to be the center of attention, and it's boring for him to stand around while the crew is setting up complicated special effects shots

that's literally just normal conversation being quoted

are you this much of a sperg

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That image is even funnier knowing you do have to switch discs 10 seconds after Elrond says that.

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LOTR=Kino

No they weren't, the first one was mostly based on actual interactions and intimate emotions, while the rest are getting into the "bigger is better" CG heavy start of the Jackson hackery.
Even the digital color correction of the second and the third one is far worse than in the Fellowship. Not just in big CGI scenes, in basic dialogue scenes also.
Pic related, a bad heavily color corrected shot which you can't find in the first one

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nope, gay fantasy moving about walking

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And they weren't all made the same way you dumb fuck, they were all shot at the same time but all the post production was done later. What, do you think they had a 100% finished RotK film reel sat on a shelf somewhere when FotR was about to be released? They worked on the CGI in chronological release order.

lmao
but aren't blu rays big enough that the movie can fit on one disc?

Remember those ugly ruins after the fellowship heads out of rivendell?
They looked fake even back then

>I used to think Return of the King was the weakest film until I actually got around to watching the extended versions.
Still no Scouring

Kevin Smith hasn't made a single good movie.

Prove me wrong.

protip: You cannot.

Yeah like I said a lot of it is hit and miss. That in particular is a nasty looking one, lucky the shot is only a few seconds.

This, LotR is something else and it won't be topped anytime soon no matter how hard it triggers disney shills

Jim who?

>story reached the climax with the destruction of the ring, even starting a new age
>hobbits go home and still have to deal with saruman
Thank God, it would completely killed the vibe.

Only The Fellowship

>Star Wars is ruined forever and it's a laughing stock of a franchise no better than capeshit
>GEE LORD OF THE RINGS MOVIES ARE OVERRATED BECUZ I SAY SO
Why are Disney moms so easy to spot?

>that CGI
OH NO NO NO NO NO

I assume he means BASED Jim Cameron. But avatar is going to be a saga not a trilogy.

What he said

Well he wants to make a NEW Terminator trilogy, but yeah isn't avatar supposed to have like 6 parts or something

Not BASED

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LOTR is the ultimate movie epic. Classics like Ben Hur, Gone with the Wind and Lawrence of Arabia can't even compare with the scope of LOTRs because each movie is as epic as any of the classics, but there's 3 of them. LOTR is the most technical impressive and masterfully crafted film in the history of cinema. For that it deserves all the awards it won. I think it also deserved acting awards, or at the very least nominations, for Mortensen, McKellen, and Wood, who all acted their roles flawlessly.

>tfw you'll never slow fuck Arwen in the ass while Eowyn licks and plays with your balls and you make out with Galadriel while she pushes her perfect elven tiddies against your chest

yikes

>LOTR is the most technical impressive and masterfully crafted film in the history of cinema
cringe

T H I S
LotR was like capturing lightning in a bottle, every single aspect of film-making was of the highest calibre and everyone behind the project had such a deep love and passion for it (the behind the scenes are even better than the movies themselves when you see just how committed everyone was) is utterly unmatched, its artistic success cannot ever be repeated because of how lazy and overly-commercialised film-making has become 15 years later and onwards

Drive was like capturing lightning in a bottle, every single aspect of film-making was of the highest calibre and everyone behind the project had such a deep love and passion for it (the behind the scenes are even better than the movies themselves when you see just how committed everyone was) is utterly unmatched, its artistic success cannot ever be repeated because of how lazy and overly-commercialised film-making has become 15 years later and onwards

>every single aspect of film-making was of the highest calibre
the digital color correction and the overuse of CGI is a bit much, especially in the second two, which is is the reason why those two installments look pretty dated today

Dummy, you can't film an expensive movie without planning each shot beforehand. There were reshoots for TTT and ROTK, but not on the Disney scale. They just redid select scenes. Otherwise all visuals were planned in advance.

can you show a pic of it? i forgot

>the behind the scenes are even better than the movies
If you like watching people sucking each others dicks then yeah.

It was also release at the perfect time, the CGI got good enough and it was still ok to have a full white cast

name a better example. I'll wait.

>there was really no way to adapt The Two Towers and Return of the King without a lot of special effects
It could easily have been done with far less special effects.
>overall I think Jackson represented what was in the books in the best way anyone could've
Hell no, there's a reason Tolkien's own son hated the movies. Jackson turned them into a pure Hollywood spectacle. What Jackson did was impressive in many way, but it wasn't an accurate adaptation of Tolkien's style.

Titanic

2001

That was easy

well, you neither

I can rest easy knowing that there is a near-perfect adaption of LOTR that is not a sjw atrocity filled with liberal propaganda, forced diversity and feminism

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You know it was a male elf that was meant to save the Fellowship at that river in the first movie, right?

Black Panther™

yeah but that wasn't feminism, it was just a way to give something to do to a woman in order to have a romance

Agreed. It's arguably better than The Chronic.

It has all that actually, just subtle

>tfw Master and Commander would have swept the board if it came out either side of Return of the King
I remember it was nominated for pretty much all the same categories as Return of the King

>It could easily have been done with far less special effects.
Yeah, they should've just cast real orcs and shot on location in Mordor. Typical Hollywood laziness

Doggystyle >>>

you guys are obsessed with this shit

I wonder, given how The Hobbit turned out.

No, the entire trilogy was at best a halfway decent adaptation of the source material, overall it sucked. Let's consider everything Hackson did wrong:

-Fucking everything about Eowyn.
-stronk womyn Arwen
-All of the undue emphasis put on Aragorn the "reluctant king" and taken away from the Hobbits, the story's actual protagonists.
-Sauron the evil lighthouse
-ghosts at the Pelennor Fields
-Frodo telling Sam to go home
-Treebeard being tricked into attacking Orthanc because he didn't know what was happening in his own forest apparently
-leaving out Radagast along with the entire set up for Gandalf's timely rescue
-Sauron losing his ring in the stupidest way possible
-Elrond taking Isildur into the forge
-Boromir the bad egg
-Denethor the bad egg
-the ring sending out a magic GPS beacon in Bree but not in Cirith Ungol somehow
-Had I mentioned the fucking ghosts being at the Pelennor Fields?
-Galadriel going super-saiyan
-Elves showing up at Helm's Deep

And if Jackson had put more emphasis on the fact that the ring could only be unmade where it was made, IN THE FORGE, I wouldn't have to deal with eagles shitposts.

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>source material fag

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>the ring sending out a magic GPS beacon in Bree but not in Cirith Ungol somehow
I don't remember the ring ever being worn at cirith ungol

Sam wears it to evade the Orcs. I'm pretty sure this was in the movie too.

This

Its in the books yeah, but in the movie it just cuts to Sam arriving at Cirith Ungol when the orc fight has already broken out.

Yes

It's all about that authentic DVD experience, bro!
also the extended editions are like 4 hours each, the disc switch is a good moment to stretch your legs

This where I would normally drop an absolute gem like

>Lord of the Reddit

But you're just plain right.

This implies that the Oscars are worth anything

Meh. Game of Thrones is literally better than LOTR on every level and it's a TV show. 15 years from now people will still be talking about GoT and only future manchildren will have circle jerk sessions defending The Hobbit movies.

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Absolutely based. Absolutely correct.