I've just watched this and despite all the shilling for and against this movie I've found it really good.
Is there anything like this? It hit all the right spots for me
>Body horror
>Unexplainable things remain largely unexplained
>The ending isn't happy for most of the cast or it's grim enough to leave a mark on everyone
Any films like this?
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I keep hearing it’s basically Andrei Tarkovsky’s STALKER but for normies.
I'm rewatching the bear scene on youtube. Best part of the movie imo.
>Andrei Tarkovsky’s STALKER
Then I'll have to watch it.
I guess, if you want to boil it down like that.
Basically it's a fairly intellectual movie that's a good stepping stone into movies like Stalker. That and I guess the premises are similar.
The Bear scene and the Lighthouse scene are the best shit I’ve seen in theaters in years. Special shout out to the Stomach Worms and the Exploded Pool Body as well.
Except it’s not a good film and Stalker is a masterwork.
the real version of her made it out.
the eyes at the end is just tacked on bullshit we literally see the alien lose its form and burn up
What I loved about the worms thing is that when that Anya goes mad they don't show you the insides of any of them. The implication is unnerving enough.
Yeah but her DNA is not hers anymore
no shit
Ooh, there’s a thought.
What if Alien Kane was taking advantage of her shifting DNA to instill in her more of the alien shit that Ventress had in her, possibly to start creating new aliens to spread like a cancer across the Earth
I just wished the characters had shown a bit more discomfort. If you took out the blatant exposition, the black girl is the only one who seems like she’s succumbing and it happens in like 30 seconds.
Sunshine by the same guy?
Also, Cloverfield Paradox kinda fits your description (if you're going to watch it as a separate movie, without trying to find connections)
the burning alien was a clone, the real one had Kane's form
To be fair, none of them were really stable to begin with. The only one who didn't go mad was the first one to die and fuse to that fucking bear thing
nah
It's not bad film. But yes, it's nowhere near one of the greatest movies ever made.
One thing I don't understand is why did clone Kane body fix itself once the shimmer was destroyed, what did that signify? Did the ayy lmaos processing power go fully into Kane and Lena instead of the shimmer? Or was it just a coincidence for Kane to recover from organ failure just as the shimmer died?
What if the clone killed her when she passed out in the lighthouse
Stalker has no monsters or special effects at all though, its mostly just three dudes lamenting the mankind
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>STALKER
Yeah I didn't quite get that. Maybe he didn't dissappear because he succeded to leave the shimmer before the lighthouse burned to spread it's infection on mankind like her wife I guess
Nothing in the movie indicates that the Shimmer is some kind of mega-organism, quite the opposite really - Shimmer has no agency or even thoughts, it just spreads itself by mirroring/refracting the environment. Ching McChong said that the team that went to the lighthouse found the ashes, meaning that only the immediate area around it was affected, probably because it was connected by roots or some shit like that.
Did you like the cancer metaphor? I thought it was beautiful.
Cancer really does behave in a morally neutral, brainless, confused way even though it feels "evil" and "aggressive" from our normal perspective.
And it does change the survivors permanently in a way that's hard to describe.
I honestly don't know.
The Kane at the end did seem very interested in Lena. I'm wondering if that's the thing that stuck with original true edition Kane until the end and the doppleKane has some misplaced sense of finding her.
After the initial teleport to their house, his body shits down (sic) either through a self-fulfilled purpose or distance from the Shimmer.
There's also the part where she doesn't bleed into the glass, while he did.
I think the principle ending part is Lena being more a mutated human than a doppleclone and her overcoming her own guilt like a destructive force. So probably another Adam/Eve thing like Ex-Machina.
Kind of a shit that Kane got cucked, went on a suicide mission then proceeded to get replaced/reborn clueless of his wife's adultery like it makes everything better. Meanwhile, she gets to light up aliums, girl power and stroll out changed but still the original sinful being. I hope that wasn't the overall message.
I don't understand how people say that this movie is dumb or that it "spoon feeds" you everything.
The movie as such is not "smart", it's beautifully made but the "smart" factor is that it leaves so many things open to interpretation that the viewer tries to rationalize everything somehow.
I think that coverage over the Paramount executive producer using "too smart" to describe the ending when his input was excluded with a Final Cut from a producer backing Garland. That kind of shaped my opinion when watching initially.
Did you like the movie?
I can't imagine how a dumbing down request would have looked like.
Maybe Portman would have a 3-5min long sequence in which she "understands" everything and explains it indirectly to the audience.
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Annihilation is practically a modern, Hollywood-ized version of stalker.
I'd love to see a Hollywood remake of Dead Mountaineer's Hotel. It's got big potential.
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>Stalker-lite.
An actiony version of it I guess you could say. That's not to say Annihilation isn't intellectual, I really liked it. Just Stalker is objectively a piece of art, whether you like the film or not. It's very long and very quiet, not for everyone.
As for a watchlist:
>Banshee Chapter
>As Above, So Below
>The Beyond (1981)
>The Thing (and the rest of the Apocalypse Trilogy)
>Event Horizon (An underrated movie I personally think is overrated)
>Pandorum
>Suspiria
>Twin Peaks
>Black Mountain Side
>Kairo
>The Void
>Cloverfield Trilogy (Cloverfield Paradox is hilariously bad but I enjoyed every minute of it)
That's off the top of my head. They range from okay to masterful. All enjoyable though.
Anyone else got some shit?