Just got done binge watching Westworld. I thought it was a very good show. Lets discuss it

Just got done binge watching Westworld. I thought it was a very good show. Lets discuss it.

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I dropped it when they did that close up of a black guy's dick.

I don't think there should be a season 2, and that the ending to season 1 was a good ending for the setting.
Actually I wonder if they changed the script and ended it differently when they saw its very successful, to set up another season.

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season 2 will be the feminist season.

I have bad feeling watching the new trailer
They want to go full retard

>quitting a show over a 5 second scene meant to shock housewives
Well ain't cha a special little snowflake?

Season 2 will be very different feeling with the war they set up, I am not a fan. Hopefully they surprise me.

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What? No. They were always going to do a season two. The Japanese shit was a clear indication of that fact.

>watching a show after it put a black dick in your face
Well ain't cha a special lil goy

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What's Floki doing there?

He's there for the viking expansion, they are doing it after the chinese stuff.

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Watching it the first time you'll think it's pretty good, likely no great, but pretty good, there'll be a few moments where you feel like something is off but then something happens and you forget it.
The you watch it a second time and realize how shit the writing is, who retarded and self-reflexive it is and that it's really one the level of like a cinemax show but it's hold up solely by actors (there are a few bad ones) and a fantastic production design that is definitely one of the best in TV history but the actually story and writing is by far the weakest part.

#triggered

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It was good but I prefer game of thrones

Your pinion is wrong.

felt a flutter huh?

It's a good show, the idea itself is fantastic. I think that the idea of self aware androids, gaining consciousness and life are well tackled. The main problem is, well, the park itself. So, you kill the androids, fix them, and put them back up? That's retarded for so many reasons (time, resources for example) but if you block that massively retarded part of the story it can be pretty fun. The dialogues are excellent, a tad pretencious sometimes, but they work for the most part.

>That's retarded for so many reasons

But it takes place in a post-scarcity world.

I doubt time and manpower is scarce in any logical world, but they sure make it seem like it was of no importance.

I think the answer is ''sci-fi''. In a sci-fi setting there is always at least one element that defies science/logic hence the ''fi'' part of the genre name.

If it takes a day to create a super strong super smart human slave that does't need to sleep, and that creation is largely automated (we only see the faces and such need special human work), I don't understand why you'd be bothered by such excess and waste of labor. Labor would be cheap.
We see in later episodes that its hosts building the park, not humans. In the whole show, the most human labor we see is programmer-psychologist types, plastic surgeons and story writers, none of which would be required in 99% of the work that host type machines would be doing worldwide and liberating actual humans from doing work.

In a fully automated luxury gay space communism setting I would expect a Westworld park, and be surprised not to have it, if anything. Its like artificial gravity for the soul.

I agree? I guess? The thing is that even in the most convoluted plot in any sci fi story you need some grounds in order to make sense of it according to our understanding of reality. Take the worst episodes of Star Trek for example or bad sci fi movies from the 70s or 80s and you'll see what I mean.

What about the size of the place? Wouldn't that count as use of resources, manpower, time? I know I'm nitpicking guys, I really loved the show, but the thing about running and management of the park was something that I couldn't help everytime I thought about the people that actually worked in the park.

Its in the middle of the desert, useless space. Also it doesn't have huge oasises or artificial jungles, it looks cheap enough.

Stopped after the first episode.
So sick of "hurrrr we don't tell you the plot for an entire season" shows

Just once, like a pigeon having a heart attack.

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The ending was weak as shit my nigga

The last 10 minutes of the last episode were weak, but the "ending" before that, revealing the time fuckery, was pretty nice.
Thats why I think they didn't intend to setup the season 2 bait at first, and did it only later. I could see a much better ending that happened, and then we had ten more minutes of effectively setting up season 2.

> make the male outlaw very feminine
> make the female outlaw very masculine
If the snake woman wasn't so intriguing, I'd have more of a problem with this.

>snake woman is intriguing

Are there any female hosts with feminine penises on westworld? make sense right, not shemale though. that is gay

It started strong and then fell apart due to poor pacing and a failure to escalate the core conflicts in time with the advancing plot.

Basically the conflicts hit their peak and the show just keeps going for a while, with nothing happening.

In a reality where Westworld is possible, I doubt that they'd be forced into having equality/diversity quotas to fill, so I doubt they'd have much in the way of tranny bots.

The guy is clearly meant to make women wet, he is the erotic novel cover bandit. There is even commentary on it when the completionist talks to him initially in that prison.

Why do you think that humanism and robot slaves are mutually exclusive?
The idea that all humans are equal and precious doesn't mandate that artificial humanoid robots mustn't be used for fun.

Westwood threads are like got and Dr.Who general. I honeypot for redditors

No, but in our current state, I really doubt such a thing could ever exist unless it was hidden and kept private.

too many filler episodes it could have easlity been 5 eps

I got bored after the first 3 but then the finale renewed my faith in the potential

We just lack the technology for it, the mood and public opinion is there. Look at video games, including MMOs - you enter a world, and butcher the NPCs, after which they respawn to be butchered again. If we had the technology to move this into the physical realm, we would, and there'd be zero outrage. VR already forces you to make "gun shooting gestures" or whatever the fuck. Only reason people talk against it is to deflect from school shootings in the USA for two weeks, before we collectively forget.

fairly accurate post

Thats weird, for me it was a slow start. I watched episode 1, a week later watched episode 2, then half of episode 3, maybe a month later rewatched episode 3 and I watched the rest in a single day.
I thought once you start to get into it, it was quite fluid.

I think it could've had less threads though. The corporate espionage thing was left unfinished and wasn't uninterested, and the brothel madam escaping never connected properly to the core thread of the park owner and the park director doing their life quests. I think it should've been just about those two powerful characters and their visions, without the other side plots.

Video games and general visual media is not the same and would not translate 1:1 to real life sceneario.
> zero outrage
Again, in our current state, yes there would be. There is already enough outrage for something as simple as a sex doll.

>a strong proud woman of color protecting the feeble white men and the genius scientist who is also of color.
Powerful. I love how our civilization has evolved to a point where we don't see race or color any more. Now that those evil white men are going extinct we can finally end all of their oppression.

I'd say this is accurate about the Sherlock show, for example, but this is still clever despite its flaws.
Then you see the host technology being different (why does she has machine innards?), the clothes and wounds disappearing, etc, and you think its shabby craftmanship, but later the reveal that these happened decades from each other, it feels clever to have noticed. I like it when I feel like I caught a show being bad, but it turns out the show caught me instead.

>a weak triggered snowflake complaining on an anime forum

Powerful. If you had seen the show, you'd know at least 2 of these people are her bosses, and the black guy is a robot. Now go back to complaining that barbecue sauce is racist or something.

>Video games and general visual media is not the same and would not translate 1:1 to real life sceneario.
How? Why? Add some substance to your claims and opinions.

>Again, in our current state, yes there would be. There is already enough outrage for something as simple as a sex doll.
How much outrage is there? Are you not perhaps exaggerating? Add arguments to your views.

Yeah, I think they've made all the interesting points there is to make, especially now that S2 will probably go in a radically different direction than S1, with the whole "muh freedum, muh rights" war angle they're going for. I have a bad feeling the show is just going to become Rise of the Planet of the Robots from here onwards.

Then why are those two techs so scared about losing their job? Felix (the Asian one) keeps saying "I need this job".

Maybe academic work is tired to reproductive rights or something, I don't know. Maybe her parents won't give her inheritance unless she works, since they are old fashioned. You are nitpicking here.

No, there's definitely rich and poor in the WW universe, it's explicitly stated several times that visiting the park costs a lot of money and the all the visitors are rich.

Felix is a guy.

I'm only "nitpicking" because the general fandom seems to think that Westworld takes place in a world with a gigantic disparity between the wealthy and poor.

Rich or poor are relative terms. Poor people in modern USA are wealthier than ancient kings.

Post-scarcity is not a relative concept though, it by definition means people don't have to put effort into obtaining things because scarcity of valuables is no longer a thing.

Today's post scarcity is tomorrow's class warfare. In most European countries every individual person has access to electrical power, heating, drinking water, protection from the elements and and enough calories to survive.
That would be "post scarcity" a century ago, even if today we call these people poor and their situation inhumane.
A century from now we will have the modern idea of post-scarcity, and people will complain that only the rich can select their offspring genes and traits, and how poor people can't go on vacation in orbit or whatever.

It is relative.