>There were two key things Colin Trevorrow wanted to be changed about THE LAST JEDI - and they were not minor. These two things have been known for a while around Disney. Firstly, he wanted Luke to still be alive in EPISODE 9. He strongly disagreed with killing Luke off when he had just been re-introduced. Luke and Leia were to be a pivotal part of his script, with Leia's Force affinity revealed in a much more brother/sister way that was apparently going to be "beautiful and tragic". Mark Hamill loved it. "We were on the same page," as he's said about Trevorrow's storyline. However, Kennedy and Johnson wanted Luke dead - period. Second, he wanted Snoke to live, as his backstory was to be more discussed. Fisher dying scuttled his original plan for the Leia Force affinity reveal, of course. But he still needed Luke alive for the story he wanted to tell to end the trilogy - more of a Luke handing off the baton to Rey and a Luke "walking off into the sunset" idea, in the last film - rather than Luke dying in 8. They refused. He argued. They fired him.
What Colin Trevorrow Had Planned For Luke Skywalker And More STAR WARS EPISODE IX
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>Well, a Redditor claiming to have some insight into that may have cleared things up
hi rian
>clickbait article from a known clickbait site with no source but "some guy on reddit"
>"Let go of the past, bro."
>constantly reuse the "wise old mentor dies in his first fight because lol old people" trope because it was in the first movie
Fill this
Even if the plot was better than TLJ, the director is shit so the film would have been shit. Ep IX is in much safer hands
It's already perfect
Nothing to fill, he's just showing his ideas for everyone's backstory.
>the guy who directed jurassic world understands star wars better than rian
Pure comedy
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All of this would be common sense to anybody, but Rian and Kennedy had a clear agenda to fuck up everything, for whatever reason.
In future generations, The Last Jedi will be regarded as a situationist masterpiece for the level of unintentional subversion it brought to disney
i know the old actors are expensive, but just write them out so it's open ended and people can speculate, everybody doesn't need to die horribly
Kek Reylo wins again. Stay salty, lukeshitters.
>die horribly
Nigga that was the gentlest fucking way Luke could have gone out and he could very easily be written into IX in some capacity
source of this?
what do you mean in some capacity?
basically no chance he won't be a ghost
Can anyone explain to me why they picked a LITERALLY WHOOOO to direct episode 8?
Irvin Kershner had never had a hit before Empire.
The best guess I've seen are that he's fucking KK, or he can ass kiss and follow orders like a true soyboy.
I love how the designer thinks it's just a joke at first and then the realisation dawns on him.
>designer: "here's what you need to make this work"
>Johnson: "[Subverted]"
how the fuck did he become the director?
Yeah it's hilarious. Behind the scenes star wars stuff is always comedy gold, the reactions to lucas in the prequels in equally hilarious. Just the look on people's faces when they realize "this is what you want to fucking do? seriously?"
>Really?
You have to wonder how many times Rian heard that from the cast and crew during production.
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why do they have to cast somebody tall? i hated tlj but i don't really see what's wrong with this webm
Where are you guys when the rumor mill is in full swing?
lol
jesus christ, star wars experiments with unreliable narrator ONCE and brainlets lose their fucking minds
It was the stupidest, randomest way he could have done it. He dies cause he got tired? Moreover, he dies of tiredness after heaving himself back up onto the rock and not making the heart attack face anymore? EVEN if you agree with killing him off, it was poorly directed (but pretty).
Without the context it's hard to tell, but tall people naturally look better in formal wear. Short people look like bouncers or entertainers.
the ugly uniform would make the character fatter. on a short person, it would make their proportions way out of line and throw off the audience.
Watch some videos of their interviews together. They have a really weird familiarity going on. KK’s normally an ice queen but she giggles like a little girl whenever Johnsoy says something.
Except they show the scene from 3 different perspectives and Luke is in the wrong each time
he doesn't die because he's tired, he chooses to join the force at that moment. for some reason.
>those timestamps
This is like paradocumentary comedy.
The drawn lightsaber and creepy molestation face are common across all of them.
Looper has people with similar powers to Star Wars and involves time travel. LucasFilm have been considering doing something with time travel in StarWars movies to go along with Marvel doing stuff with time travel in their movies after Infinity War. For comparison ep7 and 8 both happen within a short time period of each other similar to Iron Man 1, Hulk, and Thor were thought to have been. Although this thing with Marvel may have been retconned recently to have not happened within a short time period). He also seems to be familiar with some old movies similar to how Lucas like lots of old movies and tv shows.
what part was unreliable?
>abandons his friends for 30 years
>decides to help them out once
>doesn’t even get off his ass to help
>figures that’s enough and he might as well die now
>I’m sure the people fitting in the Millenium Falcon can take down the rest of the First Order on their own
Pottery
The "murderous satanic Luke making a heavy swing against a defenseless boy" shown in that pic is from Kylo's warped recollection of the events. In the third version we're shown (which is most likely the closest to the truth) it's Kylo who strikes first. But yeah, Luke made a mistake. The movie doesn't try to make excuses for it. This is basically the point of contention - brainlets wanted a perfect and morally pure Gary Stu Luke based more on their childhood worship of him than the actual character presented in the movies. Luke has ALWAYS grappled with the dark side and has been prone to making bad decisions based on emotions. He always makes the right decision in the end, though, and that's what makes us relate to him; he's a good guy, but he's also very human. Unfortunately, in this particular case, Luke's temptation alone was enough to cause disaster.
>b-b-but he was a COMPLETED character! He conquered temptation as a concept when he redeemed Vader!
Not how people work, autismo.
but they're the spark that will light the match that will ignite the fuse, that will start the dynamite, that will explode the rocks, that will start the landslide, that will bury the First Order.
>be Rian "The Schlock" Johnson
>write and direct the film equivalent of a bathtub full of piss
>"What, you were expecting a bubble bath with water in it? EXPECTATIONS SUBVERTED!"
>"There's water IN piss anyway, retard!"
>"Come on, we all know you like taking baths, so you HAVE to like this one I drew for you."
>"Psh, you're just mad because I hired some strong females and POC's to piss in this tub with me. Fucking racist, misogynist bastard."
>"Oh yeah? Well this bath wasn't excreted for you anyway! Fuck you!"
We Gurren Lagan now?
I'm assuming they wanted Finn accompanied by a hot chick to Canto Bight, the costume designer wanted to 'play around' with some dress ideas or whatever.
I fucking hate that 'rose' does not have a proper capitalized uppercase starting letter because it's a name
'rose' implies he is talking about an actual flower, not a woman.
even the documentary about making the movie is terrible
If you want to see Mark suffer, it's pretty much 90% of a time when he appears in the documentary, but those are just heartbreaking. I saved a lot of timestamps to make webms, but I'm too lazy atm.
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>In the third version we're shown (which is most likely the closest to the truth) it's Kylo who strikes first.
wrong. it's really hard for Ben to strike first when he's the one that turns on his saber second.
> brainlets wanted a perfect and morally pure Gary Stu Luke
neck yourself strawman redditor
>Luke has ALWAYS grappled with the dark side and has been prone to making bad decisions based on emotions.
The fundamental difference here, you double nigger, is that Luke didn't make a fucking choice. Did you miss that? It was pure instinct.
>He always makes the right decision in the end, though
His decision to taunt Kylo Ren, then die not having taunt anyone and having accomplished nothing? what the fuck are you smoking?
>Not how people work, autismo.
Too bad this is a story you brain dead thot. He ends ROTJ as a self actualized character. The thing that brings him to his broken point is an action with zero agency and zero explanation as to how he got there.
>neck yourself strawman redditor
>His decision to taunt Kylo Ren, then die not having taunt anyone and having accomplished nothing? what the fuck are you smoking?
>Too bad this is a story you brain dead thot. He ends ROTJ as a self actualized character. The thing that brings him to his broken point is an action with zero agency and zero explanation as to how he got there.
It's not a strawman when you're doing exactly what I'm accusing you of, dipshit.
>However, Kennedy and Johnson wanted Luke dead - period.
kk?
>being this LITERALLY RETARDED
He got tired and had to stop projecting. He had no way of getting off the island to help Rey and Leia so he force suicided like Obi-wan did and disappeared. He didnt die from exhaustion. He CHOSE to become one with the force so that he could go help. The sunset reminded him of his destiny and basically set his mind right and he knew what he had to do. I swear you faggots literally pretend not to get a children's movie so you can talk shit about it.
kathleen kennedy
why is this homo constantly hugging people
>He had no way of getting off the island to help Rey and Leia
Did you fall asleep during the last movie? They literally know where he is, Rey was with him earlier that day. They could just go pick him up.
Well said.
check out 26:00
What are you talking about? How does wanting someone to try and accomplish things and have agency as a character equal wanting him to be a Gary Sue? Is your definition of Gary Sue just doing anything?
>Lucas dedicates the entirely trilogy to showing Luke being flawed and overcoming his major flaw of being brash in his decisions by the end of the trilogy
>still has a few other flaws
>Rian retardedly decides to undo the one characteristic that the OT was dedicated to showing Luke overcoming
>"THIS ISN'T DUMB AT ALL! NORMAL PEOPLE ARE RETARDED TOO!"
>If you want to see Mark suffer
I most definitely do not.
>It's how characters work, autismo. Learn2write.
It's the spark on the germ
And the germ on the hair
And the hair on the wart
And the wart on the frog
And the frog on a branch
And the branch on a log
And a log in a hole
And a hole at the bottom of the sea
Oh please. They wanted to kill Luke off, they didn't want to pay his salary for another movie, they didn't want to detract from MaRey Sue any longer than they had to, they killed him and destroyed his character because it's #HerTurn. They killed him because that's what you do with old people in Star Wars, they literally just vanish in thin air and nobody really cares or notices. And that's a good thing.
Jesus fuck man, Chewie flew there before and R2 has the map to him. If he wants to help, he can just Force call Leia and ask to get picked up.
Why are you so angry defending what you yourself call a children’s movie?
I really wonder what the fuck they were thinking with that clumsy phrase
That subverted my expectations.
All the actors were thinking Rian Johnson can’t write for shit.
is all that shit really necessary
Oh man, that second one actually hurts.
>unreliable narrator
you're talking about Rian Johnson?
>tfw no starwars pasta like in harry potter
Based Colin
I guess we know why they fired him now
Irritatingly accurate
>some idiot will spend $60 on a star wars licensed broom
This fucking world.
That isn't real you imbecile.
>lukeshitters
and you still call yourself as a '''star wars fan'''
everyone else except reylo faggots cares about Luke much more than your tumblr ship.
There is a very real darth vader helmet vacuum cleaner, maybe brooms are literally the only thing that don't have a star wars version.
>brainlets wanted a perfect and morally pure Gary Stu Luke
Neck yourself and your brainlet straw man shitworm, that's not what anyone wanted.
It's amazing that they ACTUALLY released 8 with these irreversible fuck ups. How the fuck did it get that far without anyone with power pulling the plug? They literally let one guy fuck the entire trilogy up.
>so traumatised by Sup Forums that I thought this was a BLACKED image at first