Most successful legacy character ever made

>most successful legacy character ever made
>must successful female super hero ever made
>still had a rather large fanbase
Why does Marvel hate this character?

Because it requires Spider-Man to be married.

Uh... they don't hate that character?

they have a hate boner for DeFalco because he was the last time the company had a consistent vision and actual good stories

ding ding ding got it in one

Also girls shouldn't swing/dress likethat it is LEWD

>most successful legacy character ever made
By what possible metric?

She literally had the longest running super hero book with a female lead

I have to those first two points are meant to included "at Marvel"

Ok now you're moving the goalposts. We were just talking about the qualifier "most successful legacy character." Dick Grayson is one of the most well known comic characters period, and Tim's comic ran for over 15 years. Also,

>longest running super hero book with a female lead
Wonder Woman lasted over 600 issues before being rebooted

>says Marvel hates a character
>admits they had one of their longest running series

How exactly does Marvel "hate" her? Just because she doesn't still have an ongoing?

>most successful legacy character ever made
She's more popular than Hal and Barry? Got a source on that?
>most successful female super hero ever made
Again, you're claiming her book was more successful than Wonder Woman, which is a pretty bold claim. Got any evidence?
>still had a rather large fanbase
So large her book was canceled over and over and over again.

I didn't want to be mad today

>all the heroics and humor of Spidey, but in a slender nerd girl who contorts herself into all sorts of wonderful positions.

Not a clue. I actually enjoyed Mayday more than Peter for a long time. Followed her series as best I could considering I was a kid and the nearest comic book store was too far to travel to without being taken. Think I made it about half way through her original run before I moved house somewhere with no comic store at all.

They even set it up that the baby May could still be alive, Kaine could turn up with her, and the timeline could actually happen with a few small tweaks. Especially with sliding timescale. I guess now that One More Day is never getting retconned and Marvel is getting worse every year she'll forever just be a Spider-verse cameo.

Maybe that's a good thing. Stops them from ruining her.

>most successful legacy character ever made
Wally West, Kyle Raynor, Dick Grayson,
>must successful female super hero ever made
Wonder Woman
>still had a rather large fanbase
Then why does her book keep getting cancelled?

Should have been in relation to Marvel

Marvel doesn't hate Mayday.

Slott does, though.

To be fair, like said, OP's claims are a little more true if you keep adding the qualifier "at Marvel"

She was boring as shit and so were her books.

>Slott introduce Mayday
>But, she is the daughter of bobbi.

I would pay to see that bomb explode.

"ever made" is pretty absolute, man. I think the OP's just a bit of an idiot.

>>most successful legacy character ever made
>>must successful female super hero ever made
{Citation needed}

>She literally had the longest running super hero book with a female lead

How wrong can you get? It was the longest for Marvel ONLY, other publishers had that a long time ago.

He's correct if you measure success solely by the number of issues released

Does she count?

For Marvel.

and this?

Nnnnnno? Wonder Woman has her beat pretty thoroughly on that front.

Like people have said a dozen times already, mots issues by MARVEL

She's clear number one there, with Patsy Walker in second place slightly behind here.

Released with spite.

Again, correct if you assume he's only talking about Marvel (which I feel like you have to because otherwise characters like Wondy and Flash have her beat by so many miles you'd have to actually be brain dead to make that claim)

Pretty sure Daredevil's Marvel's most successful legacy hero.

The guy who took over for poor dead Mike Murdock's still Daredevil to this day.

Are x-men characters count as legacy characters?

How would Storm be a legacy character?

She isn't part of the original team.

>implying OMD won’t be retconned the moment the mouse steps in and cleans house.

Legacy means a character that has inherited or take over the role of a previous character.

eg, if a new person becomes Captain America, that's a legacy character.

Legacy characters aren't replacement team members, they're heroes who use the name or theme of another hero

>implying Disney, which only gets involved to handle internal disputes between child companies, is going to do anything

by quick math that's possibly (probably) wrong, the Marvel female solo length tops are

Spider-Girl - 130
She-Hulk - 98
Spider-Woman - 77
Ms Marvel (not including Kamala) - 50
Dazzler - 42

Kamala isn't far away from passing Dazzler now

It's Peter and MJ married, it's not a character made by Quesada or the current writers, the old Marvel marketing team tried killing it but they kept it afloat when sales spiked.

Also they have Renew Your Vows because Slott had to shit on Mayday in Spider-Verse and insert his own shitty characters, At least Conway managed to do something decent and entertaining out of them but I'm iffy about having Spiderling growing up.

That said while RYV is fine the tone is different from Spider-Girl since it's more about a crime fighting family while Spider-Girl solely focuses on mostly Mayday herself.

I also like Spider-Girl better because I feel Peter would never be 100% OK with the idea of his daughter being a crime fighter and that comic reflected that. At most he would come to respect her decision and be proud of what she does but he has gone through enough shit as Spider-Man to not want that for her.

Also Spider-Girl (like what makes Mayday different from Peter? and what is her dynamic with her friends and other superheroes) just had a lot of thought put into it and RYV is mostly a fun harmless comic.

Also Spider-Girl has uncle Kaine in it, RYV needs to step up.


It only counts if it's only Marvel, otherwise no one touches Wonder Woman who has two of the longest runs (her original one went over 300 issues and then she had another one that was like two hundred and something).

Now count it again but don't count the relaunches.

Spider-Girl - reached 100 in her first solo
She-Hulk - the most she's lasted is 60
Ms Marvel (Carol) - 50
Spider-Woman - the most she's done is 50
Dazzler - 42

>Nnnnnno?
Are you asking a question? Otherwise don't use a question mark, you come off like a retard.

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I usually treat the X-men as a legacy thing. It is like green lanterns but without the "space cop" feel.

I honestly hope no one else but DeFalco get to write her, especially no one from current Marvel, Slott did enough damage and Defalco could only do some much to reduce the stink that he left.

Maybe in a decade or so when both Slott and Bendis have died of diabetes, maybe.

So that ends up with basically the same result anyway

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I liked that issue, her costume shrank in the washer and its super tight and it keeps ripping and being annoying.

And everyone just keeps teasing her about it, even Kaine is an ass about it.

isn't she like 15-16?

those mooks being sent to jail over jailbait.

man bodysuits are hot

Yeah but the thing that's being said is that she the female with the longest Marvel run, as in uninterrupted and no relaunches.

Also it changes because the others are only halfway (slightly more with Shulkie) to what she had.

Not really, none of them get aroused by it (which kind of adds to the funny) one of them even calls it a cheap stunt.

more of strict child pornography laws in play humor.

>I swear officers, she just flashed us with her butt crack!
>tell it to the judge, you sicko!

Fortunately, since he's one of those people who thinks that Peter shouldn't be married, he probably feels the same way about Peter being a father.

>Also Spider-Girl has uncle Kaine in it, RYV needs to step up.

Having Kaine appear in RYV would be fun.
And yeah he was one of the best characters in Spider-Girl.

Normies would have to make such a big stink of epic proportions for Disney to retcon it and that's never going to happen.

Or at least you would have to get some powerful religious people to make a ruckus about it in a way that would severely impact Disney's pockets.

But lol no one gives a shit about comics so it won't happen.

Your best bet is to wait until Quesada retires/dies/gets fired, he won't get fired unless Ike goes away and he will only let go of Marvel if he croaks.

He says he doesn't like mary jane. He could write in a son/daughter to peter parker. He did create a sidekick for peter parker once.

1) Spider-Marriage

2) It was popular because the fans liked It, and not because they were told they liked it.

Barry Allen and Hal Jordan were both also Legacy heroes

>Defalco never got around to doing anything of value with Darkdevil being Peter's nephew.

Perhaps the greatest missed opportunity in Spider-Girl.

Why do the other Spider Women all have better designed costumes than Spidey's wife and kid?

They were more relaunches that were made legacy characters retroactively, but you can make that argument, sure.

>Who the fuck is Wonder Woman

I don't know, Robbie wasn't that bad of a legacy

Man I sure do like how uplifting and hopeful and good spirited the MC2 universe was

Even the evil one?

>before the dark times.
>before the Spider of the Edgeverse

I fucking hate modern Marvel with a passion. They cancelled Scarlet Spider (Kane), new Alias is a shadow of he original, X-23/Laura/Wolverine is almost a normal girl now and boring, and everything is terrible.

Even the MCU, what seemed to be a beautiful and well realised take on my beloved characters, seems to sliding ever closer to being a self-parody.

At least I still have DC Rebirth.

Dafuq? Meant to link

>I honestly hope no one else but DeFalco get to write her, especially no one from current Marvel,

I hate to say it but I definitely agree. Spider-Verse was a complete shitshow and I hope DeFalco fixes things by bringing back MC2 Peter soon.

Too obvious OP.

Series ends on a positive note, cue fucking Slott to kill off one of the best versions of Peter Parker, would be so pissed if I was Defalco

Is there a way to add her into the MCU? I always thought in her timeline you could have PP be played by Tobey Macguire again.

Least he died well, and in love with MJ, having raised a beautiful family, in an optimistic future.

Better than main universe Petery is getting.

Plus isn't it actually a mirror universe to the real Mayday-verse? I think I heard that somewhere. a way to use her and the characters without fucking with it.

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>>most successful legacy character ever made
Do waifufags truly believe this?

At least it doesn't look frumpy.

I wish they go full Bleach rip off tho

Robbie and Sam Nova are the only good legacy characters. They have personalities and aren't written like stand ins.

>Hey, we've got a new Ghost Rider ongoing! What should we do with him?
>Let's uhhhhhhh let's make it a glorified team book
JUST

>Plus isn't it actually a mirror universe to the real Mayday-verse? I think I heard that somewhere. a way to use her and the characters without fucking with it.

Yeah, I heard that somewhere as well, here's hoping. I think Defalco even said the same thing

It hurts everytime.. you know the writer probably had no fucking say in the matter. All of Robbies parts in Four on the Floor were great and then they had to ruin it with shit hulk and x2bland

Basically when Defalco got to do a spideverse back up he dropped hints that it's MC2-B. Slotty for whatever asshole reason however decided he didn't like being corrected and insisted otherwise.

So really it boils down to who you believe more. Her creator or an asshole

I think being underwritten is a good thing. For now, SJW writers don't have any idea how to write him because none of them experience brotherly love.

Dunno, Felipe Smith seems a pretty cool dude. Might even be weeb and holding his writing back.

That's good to hear, Slotts a prick

You're a fucking idiot.

He is a pretty cool dude, responds well to his fans, never has bad things to say. Seems to genuinely like what he does and the people that read his stuff. And he writes them all as relatable likeable or otherwise just natural. Also i never in my fuckin years thought i'd see a character who's got a mentally handicapped brother in Marvel. That shit through me right the fuck off and the fact they open on his wheelchair getting jacked by some gangbangers pulled shit that SJW marvel wouldn't try if you wanted them to.

what were the hints

Spider-Girl was popular despite Defalco, not because of it. Marvel might have a hate boner for him, but it's well deserved. That Stan Lee wannabe should just stick to writing Archie.

I like him. His designs screams I'm a weeb

IMO, his Ghost Rider is one, if not the only, of the good thing that came out from legacy

>>Defalco never got around to doing anything of value with Darkdevil being Peter's nephew.
he was peters nephew? I thought he was Matt and Felicia's kid?

>Why does Marvel hate this character?

Do you really need to ask?

She's white dude.

>Most successful legacy character ever made
That sure don't look like Wally West.

dat ass tho

Not that user, but I just skimmed through the story in question, and here are some things I noticed.

1. She calls her brother Benny instead of Benjy.
2. She seems confused by the concept of the multiverse despite having travelled to another universe before.
3. She uses Ben Reilly's impact webbing and stingers, which I don't remember her doing in her own series, although I could be wrong about that.

He's Ben Reilly and Elizabeth Tyne's son.

Well given said asshole calls the shots to anything spiderman related now...