Are lawyers the cancer of our world, alongside bankers?

Are lawyers the cancer of our world, alongside bankers?

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politicians are the cancer

They offer nothing.

Not if Gowdy has anything to say about it

Most politicians are lawyers, though

pic related is a redpill read

The majority of our politicians (here in Spain) studied law degrees. They usually have 0% experience in private companies.

It's a Jewish dominated profession. What do you think?

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Weird enough, it's the same group of people who work those jobs that are the cancer of this world

Absolutely, if someone can make millions off of spilling hot mcdonalds coffee on themselves then lawyers are a problem.

nobody comes close to the bankers

lawyers are greedy fucking liars

t. lawyer

>studying law
>to be seriously considered in the profession ($$$) i realistically need to do a postgrad at oxbridge
>and then other postgrad law exams
>dunno if i want to become a lawyer

fascinating subject though

Law is a great subject, but unfortunately, lawyers have become merchants of destruction for our civilization, just like politicians, journalists and bankers.

But law isn't inherently bad, the other way around in fact.

Mfw studying law in USA. My bosses both graduated from my school and want for nothing.

No. A minority of awful, morally bankrupt lawyers ignoring their jurisdictions' ethical codes under the pretence of "helping muh client absolves me of everything" is the real cancer.

t. lawfag

This.

I'm copypasting this to my private folder. Thanks.

false, they have lots of experience shilling for private companies...

in chile, the judiciary literally called a corrupt right-winger "employee" of a company, because he received money and orders to vote for specific bills.

Lawyers, bankers, politicians, and journalists provide no /real/ service nor do they make any tangible product.

& Of course all the stupid warning signs you see, the AA/EOE bullshit, & the dumb over regulations because of potential lawduits

>mfw im a lawyer

how often do you drink? i think a friend whos a lawyer might become an alcoholic

banks

they literally have no obligation to give your money back if anything happens

i drink plenty but im not an alcoholic (yet)

That's after they reached the power. I'm talking about their previous experience.

Lawyer here, fuck you. You assholes all like to talk shit until you go driving drunk through a school zone or walk in on your wife fucking your neighbor, then it's all "oh Mr. Shekelstein help me help me!"

There are enough reasons to drink that have nothing to do with lawyers but I don't drink. It's for mentally weak people

disgusting lawfag here, look at the case, she got horrible burns and her pants fused with her skin. but yes lawyers are indeed still scum of the earth

thats what they all say

you don't get to become a politician by being a random no-one anyway. these people are put there because they are obedient to the party or whoever pays them the most... as the clinton/podesta emails clearly show

I don't get this pepe

Just call them kikes senpai.

Lawyers used to be based. The majority of the founding fathers were lawyers. It's the people who have exploited those professions that are the cancer of the world.

>no /real/ service

Lawyers provide the service assisting you with law, which 95% of the time you're going to know jack shit about

Bankers provide the service of handling money, which again most people don't know anything about

Politicians provide the service of wading through the bullshit that is politics so you don't have to (although most of these guys are egotistical cunts)

Journalists report on shit so you can keep up to date on happenings in your basement

You're saying that people have to supply an actual product to be worthy of being given any money, and that's bullshit. Have you ever heard of a consultant?

Yes

Something that I find fun about north american people is their susceptibility to feel offended by everything. They have no tolerance. Please, don't dehumanise humanity.

I am a lawyer, so no.

Lawyer here. We are necessary to the stability of the state. Without lawyers the entire court system would fall apart.You don't want to throw legal accountability down the toilet.

I've never met a Jew at any of the firms I've worked at.
The only jewy stuff that goes on is intentionally making clients require more meetings in order to fleece them for money, but you will find that in any professional business.

you wouldn't need a banker if you weren't so fucking poor.

>I don't drink
>flag
i dont understand poland
he even asked me once if i knew someone who was in AA,i thought he was joking
hes normal, does great in life, achieves all goals, but drinks so much that i cant tell if hes drunk or not, he acts all normal, after a fuckton of alc
hes pointing the laser thingy to himself so the drone/airplane bombs kill him

same, what state?

I do mostly employment discrimination work

All of them. All of the child fuckers, the satanists, the sadists. They all must end. This is not how man was supposed to live.

We must create a new system of harsh punishment for corruption and moral insanity.

New Jersey

>fw teller in a bank
i'm so sorry lads

Just wait until the queen dies. All Commonwealth nations will ask for independence. Let's talk then.

They do, idiot. Only they may not have enough $$$ for you

Hey, I'm not that guy, but I'm in law school, what kind of internship should I am for over the summer? Also were doing memos atm, how long do real ones take?

yes

we need to go back to common law in anglo countries

from what i heard mcdonalds barely covered the cost of her medical bills

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not only that, their client is their lowest priority after the court and the lawyers association

YES.

how is that even relevant? do you understand the commonwealth is symbolic? the Queen does not actually rule the UK. We have a parliament and elections.

straya pls

when and how did it change?

who decides? where does their authority come from?

Don't worry, just keep smiling every morning. You'll bring some joy to this world.

Well I work in house so frankly we don't write memorandums all that often and we farm out most litigation. When you're writing memorandums for a legal writing class during your first year, yeah you should spend time on it and do it for real but once you've done a few and are actually set into a specific practice you'll be using a fuckload of templates. Most of our attorneys start from a template of shit one of us already wrote and have accessible on a shared drive.

What year are you in? I'm guessing you are in your first year based on the fact you're talking about writing memos.

Have you ever heard of a piece of paper called the "Magna Carta" ?

That's where parliament's power comes from.
Maybe try reading encyclopedias and things of that nature.

>bankers>media>politicians>lawyers>media>
imo

>Have you ever heard of a piece of paper called the "Magna Carta" ?
why, yes I have sir!

are you familiar with article 61?

huh...I didn't think lawyers and bankers would bother with a shithole like spain. really makes you wonder how far third world countries have come in the past 5 years. keep it up spain you're doing....something

Also this, tort reform is a huge fucking lie designed to save corporations money. Remember that kid that got decapitated by a ride in Kansas? Thanks to Kansas tort reform laws the maximum they can recover for his death is $250,000 and whatever funeral costs there were. He has no earning capacity so they can't get anything like loss of consortium or lost earning capacity

>she got horrible burns and her pants fused with her skin.
WHICH IS WHY YOU FOLLOW COMMON SENSE AND DON'T PUT HOT COFFEE CUPS BETWEEN YOUR FUCKING LEGS

>Lawyers
>LIARS

where does parliament get it's authority to tell us what to do?

from our consent?

>tfw both in media and politics

sweet, good to hear that memos are not the rest of my life! Memos aren't really bad, but are just bland in comparison to the normal lectures.
I'm a first year- I don't think I'll be one of those drop outs either, lol. When did you decide where you specialized?

depends on who you represent

anyway if there were no consumer protection offices or decent judges then big firms would squeeze so called ordinary men until their spine is broken

Lol fuck youuyuu

you misspelled "journalists"

just saying, if I employ a man, his first priority should be me, since I am the one paying him

The car didn't have cup holders.

Do you require that everybody spoon feed you reality rather than coming out of your mental hugbox?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonald's_Restaurants

lol, calm down a bit- but anyway, the coffee machine was cranked to a much higher temperature than what is allowed. I take it you've never spilled coffee on yourself before? The coffee machine was set to 180–190 °F making it much more likely to cause an accident there.

also what this guy said

right so.

So in this world.

There is no reported news

There is no government

There is no financial system

There is no legal system

Yes. for better or for worse, not enough people are pissed off to the point of overthrowing the current system. It can also be changed democratically through legislation

>no real service
That only something a dirty commie kike would say.

>my child was going to be the next Michael Jackson, earning 100 gorillion dollars in his life, I demand that and medical bills + attorneys fees

without lawyers there would be no judges,and you would just accept what ever they said as a law.

A lawyer suppose to navigate you through the legal system

Lawyers will always have a utility as long as people are too busy or too uneducated to understand the law enough to handle their own legal affairs.

The rule of law is what defines western civilization more than any other value. Greed and elitism is the cancer and this cancer infects those with power (politicians/lawyers/banks/corporations) more than most.

Lawyers are not the problem and there is many good lawyers fighting for noble causes and doing the right thing. The rule of law and lawyers are essential for civilized society to function.

>When did you decide where you specialized?
I never did lol, it was basically decided for me. I got a job as a paid intern during my second year of law school and they had me writing position statements and other responsive documents for the EEOC and state anti-discrimination agencies. I decided to take a few employment law courses in my 3rd year and found it semi-interesting and mostly pretty easy as it's more fact intensive than law intensive.

Hopefully you don't fail out but honestly it's a good thing schools are failing out students. Bar passage rates are the lowest they've been in decades. You don't want to stick around for 2 years only to realize it's not for you, and you don't want to be one of those idiots that fails the bar only to repeat it multiple times.

Part of the problem is that a lot of lower tier law schools are admitting people that wouldn't have gotten into a law school 10 years ago and they're simply not cut out for the kind of cramming necessary in a Barbri or Themis course.

Real estate developers are the real cancer.

have you ever heard that the UK is policed by consent?

>A lawyer suppose to navigate you through the legal system
The whole point of the thread is more about the lawyer perspective of life than the "lawyer job".

I didn't say that, but $250,000 is a massive fucking joke for a wrongful death. Someone lost their kid (a white kid you little bigot), and the company won't even be punished for it. My company has paid more than that to settle employment discrimination suits.

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Education will always be the foundation issue of any country that wishes to have freedom and allow the citizens control of their government.

oh yeah, the way they force you to buy their property, or stay in their hotels

pure evil

>apfn.org/apfn/flag.htm
Are you saying courts dont enforce US law? Im confused as to the purpose of this link.

its just kikes

It's a meme no court or county dictate a procedure where the USA flag has to have gold trim.It purely aesthetic to look fancy

yes

common law(as specified inthe constitution) has been usurped by maritime(or admirlity) law.

common law is one sentence - cause no harm, loss or injury, do not make mischief in contracts, and do not breach the peace

civil law is so huge that no single person could read all the hundreds of thousands of pages of it in their entire lifetime, yet ignorance of the law is no defence

In theory, no.

In practice, yes.

Through most of civilization, lawyers weren't often needed as a discrete profession. The law was usually simple enough that any upperclass person trained in rhetoric (and they usually ALL were trained in rhetoric) could be expected to be able to defend themselves in court.

Lawyers were mostly only necessary as functionaries of states (if there was a provision for trials for accused defendants, and that usually wasn't the case) or in the small niches of law of particularly high volume.

So there weren't that many lawyers and the profession made sense for the few specialists needed in it.

But because laws in nation state have only ever gotten more Byzantine and complex as they've grown in size, lawyers have become increasingly necessary to navigate the legal landscape.

Lawyers KNOW this. And being one of the few professions (outside of politicians themselves) intimately familiar with the law, they often work within politics to change laws for their benefits.

A lot of AWFUL laws that often don't seem harmful at first glance are often written by lawyers because they know it will generate more cases for themselves.

Each time this occurs it makes the legal system more byzantine still, and further drives up the demand for their services.

In a perfectly effiicient state with an actually well educated populace (not the type of "education" that occurs at colleges today, which is mostly propagandizing at the undergrad level) the profession would mostly not exist.

So yeah, they're a cancer. It's in their interest to reduce the efficiency of the justice system and make it impeneterable for the lay person.

hmm thats interesting, my 3l friend had a similar experience, I take it just sort of goes like that?

And yea, it would be better to know sooner rather than later, but for what its worth, I've rocked all my midterms. First term midterms a probably a joke compared to the rest of law school, but at least its a good sign!

yea I'm a bit nervous about that, the school isnt a top tier school (though the best for the area). Though, last year our first attempt bar takers broke 80% pass rate so its not too bad

Criminal defense attorneys are the most valuable part of the puzzle in our judicial system. They force the state to make better cases and ensure punishments are handed out only when there is irrefutable evidence of wrong doing.

Are you talking about for UK law? I dont know if its different there. We primarily have two types of law here. Common law which is derived from judicial precedent, stare decisis. This is case law. Then you have statutory law which is derived from statutes.

At least Spain doesn't suffer from massive corruption right? I think their country is based...

>At least Spain doesn't suffer from massive corruption right?

agreed

do you know the difference between "legal" and "lawful"?

>They force the state to make better cases and ensure punishments are handed out only when there is irrefutable evidence of wrong doing.
WRONG! they encourage even innocent defendants to take plea deals, so the gov can save money prosecuting

>Common law which is derived from judicial precedent, stare decisis. This is case law. Then you have statutory law which is derived from statutes.
and what is a statute?