Mikel Janin's """art"""

Why do you retards like this guy's traced garbage so much? It's like a slightly better US War Machine 2.0.

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Who likes it?

yeah it's like, tolerable

The way he lays out his pages tells for a really good read typically, I'm not a huge fan of the poser art, but like I said his page competition is fantastic

I don't what threads you've been in but Sup Forums hates Janin's shitty CGI abominations. It's casuals who know nothing about artwork that like it. This past Batman arc has been especially bad.

he's less talented than Land, I don't understand what the difference is

It’s the colorist’s shading that really fucks it up, or is he doing the colors too?

>he's less talented than Land, I don't understand what the difference is
Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Janin at least knows how to lay out a page, there's some creativity in it.

He's one of the better poser artists, but yes, he's still a poser artist, so they all the characters look dreadfully samey, stiff and samefacey.

The only poser artist I don't just tollerate but actually like is Aco, his pages tend to have a kinetic quality, and he knows how to use well colors and shapes to indicate movement and action, but he still suffers from other classic poser problems (expressions mostly).

He's got like two weeks to put out his pages? I mean, it's bland but given the circumstance I can't expect much better.

>poser artist
poser """"artist""""

the entire page colors and all is rendered in 3d modelling software. Usually Poser or sometimes Daz3D.

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there's a lot of different methods to applying filters to 3d models to make "comic book art". Some methods allow you to output "flats" along with the automatic lineart.

Sometimes artists are tracing 3d models, but are at least putting pen to paper in the process to draw (trace). Sometimes it's only the lineartist doing it, and they're just screenshotting renders with comic book shaders applied.

The worst most fucking disgusting offenders are like in the OP The """"artist""" in the OP pic didn't draw a damn thing. Barely any work was put into making the 3d models, he just tweaked settings on prefabs. The colors were automatically generated with a comic filter in his modelling program, that's why they look so shit.


I fucking hate people that do this they're killing comics

if I wanted to see this shit Id go to 3dporn.biz.rus.uk or something

You say that but then there's Sandoval & co. on "Hal Jordan & the Green Lantern Corps" churning out this masterpiece

that and like everyone else that works in comic books without screenshotting 3d dolls

poser artists gtfo

I take it back. Had no idea what poser was, thought y'all meant poseur. If he's saving so much time then he can afford to spend a little to give cat woman a fucking facial expression.

I don't mind Bruce, but she doesn't look right. Too stiff, too thin.

I don't absolutely hate Poser art, but it is always obvious and seems lazy. I like actual art, not hacky shit. I don't even hate Land, but I get why it happens, they can produce pages at whatever rate on time. Comics aren't fine art, it's just a job.

Go on literally ANY website besides Sup Forums and Janin's art is treated as the greatest thing ever, the second coming of Jesus Christ.

Hell, remember Grayson? When Sup Forums was also sucking Janin's cock and gushing over how amazing his art was? I just don't get it.

Janin's Justice League Dark work was better then land.
His Grayson & onward work has not been.

>I don't absolutely hate Poser art, but it is always obvious

It's not actually always obvious. Some """artists""" use highly tweaked filters that give sloppier or somehow otherwise "more realistic" lineart.

And sometimes they spend a lot more time on the initial work of getting their models right, or on scene arrangement, or on posing facial expressions and fingers. Even going in and sometimes DRAWING to fix something that looks unnatural, a mouth here some eyes there.

It ALWAYS has clinically accurate perspective, though.
Can YOU tell the attached image, from Batman v3 002 (2016), credited to Matt Banning, David Finch, is 3D? Backgrounds, people, and all.

Eh. It's just an arc and I'm guessing they got him so the other artists could do the work for the next arc of Batman.

Yeah it's shit but unfortunately it's going to be a thing from time to time. Honestly bad art trends have been a thing for a long time.

The book has rotating artists. So he has the same time as if he was working on a monthly.

I think this existing is bad for artists and could kill the medium.

A lot of people don't know or care that it's 3d. DC and Marvel know it's made in poser, and that it takes barely any time to make compared to actual illustration.

They're not willing to pay poser artists as much as a result... but that's a win-win for the Big 2 and the poser artists. The poser artists undercut the real artists substantially but need to work far less hours, and the Big 2 get to pay less but charge the same amount for the works. The number of poser artists has grown over the years.

As a result:
- consumers get lower quality work that they are paying the same amount for
- new illustrators to the industry will find it difficult to compete without resorting to shortcuts like poser
- current illustrators in the industry might be able to continue negotiating for their old rates, but they won't see them go up with inflation, and they will likely get less and less work as time goes on and the Big 2 become less able to justify paying their rates compared to their alternatives

3d killed the 2d star

adding to this, 3d artwork has gotten better over the years, becoming more and more indistinguishable from real art when the proper settings are used, like in this will continue as the software and tools get better with updates. 2d illustration will die, just like 2d animation has been on its way out.

Also, that construct was a wonderful Cold War style space rocket plane.

It's really what makes it evident, yeah. But you still can tell he's using some 3D modeling program by how the bodies are drawn in the perfect simetrical, weightless fatless way they are drawn. And the facial expresions too: the eyes, to be more precise, lack a lot of emotion.

But I agree that the color style is the worst offender.