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Can anyone explain what Ukrainian statehood and Ukrainian ethnicities are? Seems like identity was a Austrian-Polish-(((Soviet))) project. And ethnic Ukrainians are either Russian-Polish mix or Russian-CrimeanTatar-Turkish mix

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>ukraine

no such thing

>ukraine
no such thing

>ukraine
>also belarus
meme countries

>ukraine

Where is this Ukraine you speak of?

This area on the map has been many places. Hapsburg Austria, Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth, several khanates... list goes on.

It is a melting pt of slav, germanic, turkic (including khazar/ashkenazi and tatar), balt, and probably a few more.

UN and (((them))) insists its real

Even Poles called modern (((ukrainians))) Ruthenians/Rusyns in fucking 20th century! Let alone earlier in history.

>Ukraine
>State

Pick one

no no no.
ukraine is as real as narnia

And here is what Western Ukrainians (at that time part of Poland) called their language in 20th century - Rus'ka mova.
So it's really your fault Ivan, for letting commies ruin and divide whole nations.

hey west russia how's it going?

You guys gave it up.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Brest-Litovsk#Terms

>Jewish-Armenia-Georgian (((Soviet))) leadership
>blame ethnic Russians

no such thing as ukraine.
now give criea back to the turkroaches

People who speak Ukranian i guess

And here first (((ukrainian))) political party - "Golovna Rus'ka Rada". No "ukraine" or "ukrainian".
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Ruthenian_Council

Kek

Of course, you let them take over the country...
Or you'll deny that Russians fought against the whites and for bolsheviks????

>Russian shitposting on Sup Forums about Ukraine

>Ukraine

Everytime I see a broken HRE it hurts me on the inside.
Also, Sup Forums is this the best flag ever?

Ukrainians are simply little russians who adopted a new ethnonym.
They spoke a different language from what we now call russian.
What the fuck is so hard to understand about that?

Whites were overwhelmingly Russian and deciding part in red army was played by Mahno and Baltic shooters

>coat of arms = flag

The Ukraine is a social construction

>Baltic shooters
wait wat.. blyats were filthy gommies?

They won't admit it, like Lithuanians won't admit that their state in current borders was created by Stalin

>who adopted a new ethnonym.
More like forced on them. And it's not just name, but the whole idiotic and destructive ideology.

Ukrainians are just white russians. Also ukrainians are not poles

Belarus is literally jew country.

Just like language, culture, morals, countries,
what's your point?
Sweden wasn't socially constructed?
You think you're smart. In reality, you're a dipshit, just like the rest of these polish and russian faggots talking shit on ukrainians.

Can any Dutch fags educate me on the Batavians?
Heard they go back all the way to the original roman empire.

The point is that you need to give back your clay. Sweden may be a meme country but at least it isn't a non country

t. Hohol Hohloščuk

Ukrainians were the original Aryans (see pic related).

They also BTFO Jews.

youtube.com/watch?v=yatu7u-UaQ4

youtube.com/watch?v=0P5ut422gck

One thing when it all evolve naturally, and other thing when some kikes fabricate it and force it on people, like gommies.

>Forced
Bullshit
The reason why they adopted the new name was to distance themselves from russians who constantly belittled them as they do now.
I think it's a stupid ethnonym. I'd like to go back to Ruthenian (rusky, rusyn) whatever, but russians are arrogant as fuck and all they do is talk shit. Fuck em

Where in Ukraine are you from, Ukrainebro? I've been told your land is beautiful and your girls even more so.

>They also BTFO Jews.
Are you retarded?
Jews run this country and don't even hide it...

And what faggot. You're the most cucked slavic country, so shut the fuck up.

>Jews run this country

Explain.

If by cucked you mean the best then you're right

Nice reassurement thread

To who? Russia with its 20 million muslims and their giant mosques?

I stand with Ukraine. Loved your movie btw.

p.s.: Fuck russia and fuck snow people

Just make into russia

Let me see your pen0r

youtube.com/watch?v=ZQwzKxrkv4s

Kiev was the first Rus state that went anywhere, of course they dont want to be part of the Russias that got mixed with Asiatics during Golden horde times

>Seems like identity was a Austrian-Polish-(((Soviet))) project.
Kek you are dumb af
It was a prussian project.

They conquered them. They were not built as a result of cultural enrichment.

>Kiev wiped out by filthy mongols together with 90% of Rus
>area becomes irrelevant for centuries
>far-away outpost Moscow remains intact
>reee fucking Moscow so much mongol!

Kinda like the thread starting pic and this map show the opposite and Zeus started in Novgorod..

>Ukrainians were the original Aryans
sure dude, sure

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ihor_Kolomoyskyi
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gennadiy_Bogolyubov
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Pinchuk
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volodymyr_Groysman
Even poroshenko, the president, is supposedly a jew. Just not openly. And so are many others.
Here is my (((mayor))) - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hennadiy_Kernes

>area becomes irrelevant for centuries

Sumerians were an Aryan people whose origins were most certainly in what is now central Ukraine. Look it up. There are also links between Sumerians and early Armenians (who were definitely blonde, not like the Arab rape babies you see today calling themselves "Armenian").

Russia is even more Jew-controlled.

And just lurk more, faggot.

>>ukraine
no such thing

>Russia is even more Jew-controlled.
Yes, so? We are not talking about Russia, though. And I could not care less about Russia.

are the the other thread's OP grabbed by the dick by a Ukrainian GF ?

How desperate you are if so ?

ukrainianweek.com/History/88577

>are the the
typo: are you the ...

Your country has the coolest colored flag, except for America of course

>deciding part in red army was played by Mahno and Baltic shooters

There really are not very many of us, believe it or not.

Unfortunately, ukranians are former russkies with dick in their head. Fortunately, the former ones.

>Ukraina - Ukraine
u - at
kraina - land
so why is it called "at land"? because it was at the outskirts of commonwealth so instead of calling it "at the outskirts of land" - u (kresu) krain(y) we just called it Ukraina

here's the TL-DR explanation.
Since cold war, there is a constant funding by the US to rewrite almost entirely the history of the countries at the eastern side of the Elbe rive, with the political motive to paint Russia and Russian as inherently bad people.

For Ukraine, it is giving them a fake history, to try to make them feel as a united people.

It's just a ludicrous idea, because Ukraine is not and never was constructed as a people. That's in fact the reason why it's also not a real country.

How the fuck do you have so much and fuck up so hard? Fucking Lithuania, you had the chance to make Rus great again instead of Moscow. Instead you got cucked by catholics.
Which makes it irrelevant.

You made mi keked, polbro.

>Found proud Ukrainian fag.
If your country is so great why are you hiding behind US proxy kozaku?

>kozaku

hey Kingdom of Jerusalem, how's it going?

Were you pro-Yanukovych or pro-revolution in 2014?

And Poroshenko is just a US/NATO puppet.

Forgot pic very related to (((Ukrainian history)))

A thousand year competition of who can fuck up the most is a basic summary of Eastern European history.

Ukraine means "borderland" in old slavic language

ukrainian state is artifficial and it was created by communists to hosts jews and trotskistic parasites, they do ame thing today. Even ukrainian president OPENLY BREAKS laws of his own country

ukrainian citizens are made less than 100 years ago from russians, small russians, jews, poles and western ukrainian. then communists doomed them for eternal suffering

anthropologically they belong to different groups, northern and eastern look like russians, western looks like romanians which were mixed with poles

current ukraine was mixed by communists, because in past it was borderland, central part of it that was populated by cossacks that did not mix with catholics or muslims, they cleaned it from all kinds of shit.

Polish in the west, Russian in the east and center. Though the (((globalists))) have been telling the Central Ukrainians they are some god-tier European superhumans, their tendency to turn their country further and further into a corrupt African-tier shithole clearly defies that.

They are closer to Urals tier than even to European Russians (Moscow and St.-Petersburg). And Eastern Ukrainians - I don't even know who to compare them to. Maybe the Uruk Hai?

I'm under the impression that "ukraine" means "borderlands" in Russia

Regardless, this is how countries become countries.

It doesn't matter how related you are genetically or how intelligible the languages they are, it's what the people do and want.

Norway and Sweden are countries, despite being on a language continuum and being ethnically the same.

Same with Spain and Portugal

That said Donbass and Crimea are totally Russian, Ukraine should just let go of that shit for real.

>Crimea light eyes

What?

Of course I was against (((maidan))), anyone with at least bit of clue was.
But yanukovich is a traitor and a greedy cunt, fuck him. This country is irredeemable at this point. Ukraine is an example when democracy doesn't work and you need dictatorship. We really needed someone like Belorussian Batka, but too little too late.

> what Ukrainian statehood and Ukrainian ethnicities are?
Korenization. Also socialism.

I mentioned that the more asiaitc ethnic Ukrainian is, more Crimean Tatar or Turkish blood "ethnic Ukrainian" has, the more Vile and ferocious he in his hate for everything Russian
>no idea why these shit is not sterelised

90% ethnic Russian areas there. Makes sense?

Stalin.exe
>deport kebab
>import russians

Mongols invaded causing Kievan Rus to split up, leading to the creation of Russians, Ukrainians, and Belarusians.

>But yanukovich is a traitor and a greedy cunt, fuck him
It's been my observation that in western democracies their leaders always have lile 5-15% rating of approval. Maybe it's how it is supposed to be? Ree we elected faggot better luck next time? reee...

That image was made by some random ass dude and isn't accurate

we invented ukrainians

sorry europe

You sure?
It seems fairly accurate

I think the current French president is at about 5% approval, you guys should go fund a revolution in France.

That guy looks nothing like a Turk.

It does by I found no source other than the image itself and Eupedia

Pretty much a non country.

but*

It's not just that. What people also seem to forget is that the Commonwealth of Poland and Lithuania was a republic and not a monarchy. Most reforms were carried out by boyars and other powerfull people. Everyone had the Liberum Veto right, which is to completely fuck up a reform that could potentially be something to help the country. So while monarchs could simply tell and the state does, the commonwealth could do fuck-all. It ended up getting seperated by Austria,Prussia,Russia.

>Liberum Veto
GOD WHY

it is truth

Ukraine was reinvented invented by Austrian empire (poles tried and failed to create artificial nation in ukraine, their creatures were genocided by cossacks). Trotskyists-Leninists picked up that idea and created ukraine.

>Ukrainian ethnicity

Good night my sides

Well isn't this just the biggest load of pseudohistorical bullshit...

Pre-USSR, they were called Ruthenians. There's no such thing as "small russians" — plus, it's a tautology; being russian for men already means being small.

In the Land of Imagination, perhaps that would be true.

Turks come in all shapes and forms. Sometimes that form is Ukrainian. that sure doesn't look European no matter how you look
>dark Ukrainian pigs believe that Russian men wants them