Why did he hate the Jedi again?

Why did he hate the Jedi again?

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From his point of view the jedi were evil

Because people hate the prequels

Dude good and evil are relative anyway.
Saving the Galaxy and dooming it to eternal darkness are basically the same thing.

because expectations needed to be subverted

because white men enjoyed it

Because the Jedi Code is a Columbine factory
>DON'T FEEL DON'T FEEL IF YOU FEEL ANY EMOTION YOU ARE WORSE THAN SATAN DID YOU JUST FUCKING FEEL AN EMOTION? I'M GOING TO KILL YOU!

That's what the Jedi are. They're shit.
The real question is why did he suddenly change his mind on it. And why did he think that Rey was a Jedi when she got no training at all?

He discovered that they were responsible for what happened to his father.

It's actually understandable why started to hate him.

>him
*them

because every time someone tried to recreate the Jedi they always ended up creating their own villains as someone fell to the darkside and only led to greater suffering

Luke also lost faith in the Force after trusting in a Force vision ended up causing the disaster he was trying to prevent

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So instead of learning from the mistakes of the previous Jedi Order he just doesn't bother and lets cartoonishly evil Dark Side users do whatever they want because trying to stop them would be just as bad

>Luke feels immense guilt over almost murdering Ben with a lightsaber
>HURRRRR WHY DOESN'T HE JUST GO MURDER HIM WITH A LIGHTSABER

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>senses the destruction of the galaxy
>ignores it because he got embarrased

How does that relate at all to what I just said?
Also Luke trying to kill Kylo is already a terrible idea. Using it to justify the rest of the shit in the movie is just as bad.

The galaxy is not one man's responsibility

if you defeat your enemies, they win

He didn't sense shit, he had cut himself off from the Force. Did you even watch the fucking movie?

>a bloo bloo bloo not muh gary stu luke why wasn't he the perfect and pure paragon of moral virtue that I worshiped as a child

He was taught by Obi-Wan and Yoda. Why are you surprised that he decided to hide to dwell in self pity?

sigh, but this is literally the whole jedi belief system

The Jedi created Anakin who brought destruction to the galaxy.

>letting the dark side dominate the galaxy is the whole jedi belief system
oh ok

why does he care about the sacred Jedi texts if he wants to die?
why was there a map too him if he didn't want to be found

youtu.be/Kj3opk1QFTM

It wasn't a map to him, it was a map to the temple of the first Jedi, which he was hiding.

Because the feminist hag that wrote the story wants to demolish Luke Skywalker as a hero, to which white cishet boys can look up to.

it clearly is, there are millions of jedi and two sith and they somehow lose? they're either inept or doing it on purpose

>movie literally ends with kids playing with Luke skywalker action figures
>The legend of Luke Skywalker's last stand causes the awakening of the Force in the white cishet boy
>He will be part of the next generation of jedi who will save the galaxy one day

do you fucking niggers even watch the movie, or do you just go in WANTING to hate it?

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Great response to your hallucination of what I said. If I had said anything like that, that would be a great response. However, actually your response has nothing to do with what I said, so it's fucking terrible. You should reread the post you responded to and respond to it again, this time based on what it really said.

Jokes on you, but that boy was actually a girl who was transitioning

>reeeee the Luke Skywalker *I* worshiped would have NEVER EVER considered doing a bad thing ever, fucking disney kikes! I hate them, shit writing!

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>He didn't sense shit
Then why did he try to murder Ben?
Did you even watch the movie?

>Dude all characters have to be evil maniacs because good guys aren't realistic, everyone is as cynical and jaded as me (and that's a good thing!)

yeah this is way more interesting than the jedi academy

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>temple of the first Jedi
>”this structure is a thousand generations old”
>it’s a fucking dead tree on an island

>jedi are dead.
>only two he interacts with jerk him around constantly outside some training.
>le fallen daddy was a jedi
Do you faggots even watch the movies?

>He's an evil maniac because he was briefly tempted by the dark side to commit an evil action to prevent greater loss of life

B-b-but he was a COMPLETED character! Luke conquered temptation as a concept when he didn't murder Vader! He would never ever think about doing a bad thing ever again because he didn't give into temptation ONE time!

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>Luke Skywalker is a piece of shit who tried to kill a child
>Such a fucking coward he can't even face enemies head-on, he force projects so they can't kill him
>People ignorant of what a piece of shit he is still look up to him
>You view this as a good thing
Luke is a piece of shit in this movie. Same with Han in the last movie. Han is a piece of shit who abandons his wife and child. Luke is a piece of shit who tries to kill a child before hiding in a little island and abandoning all his friends and responsibilities. Then they both die without redeeming themselves. Sure, people ignorant of what pieces of shit they are think they're good, but that doesn't make them good people. There are people in American Psycho who like Patrick Bateman cause they don't know he's a murderer. That doesn't make him a good guy.
Luke doesn't have to be some perfect almighty god-warrior, but they shouldn't make him an irredeemable piece of shit. To be honest, it would've been better to not even show Luke or Han than turning them into unredeemed scumbags.

there were only thousands of jedi at their peak. they lost because lucas can't write good narrative

>Luke doesn't have to be perfect
>but for god's sake don't write him with any flaws because that ruins the infantile pedestal I put him on!

You really need to try harder

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I still don't get how luke died

Because Rian decided to break all the toys than share them.

>Force projection allows a Jedi create an image of themselves anywhere in the galaxy
>Force Projecting for too long causes death
>Death allows a Jedi to create an image of themselves anywhere in the galaxy
What's not to understand?

fine so they weren't inept, he was, same diff

Mouse shills are out full force

lmao low IQ poltards BTFO by someone who actually watched the kino

I wonder why...

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keep crying bitch nigga

if you want a safe space where no one important ever dies and Luke is perfect and pure and powerful Jedi Master who gets married with a wife and has a billion kids named after everyone who died and Han is le ebin Republic General and he and Leia are married and the entire universe continues to revolve around them forever just go read the EU

there is a small difference between having human flaws and trying to murder your own nephew because of crimes he didnt commit yet. especially when you believed in the good in your genocidal psychopath of a father,

>if you want a story that makes sense and doesn't intentionally ruin characters to s u b v e r t your expectations go read the EU
ok I will

How they could kill off the most iconic character in the series in the most anti-climactic way. That's pretty hard to understand.

He lost the will to live.

>because every time someone tried to recreate the Jedi they always ended up creating their own villains as someone fell to the darkside and only led to greater suffering
The Republic apparently had peace for hundreds-thousands of years with the Jedi as it's protectors before Sheev showed up. A Sith shit show every few centuries isn't that bad considering it's near galaxy wide peace when they aren't around.

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HE HAD A BAD DREAM

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Where was that in the script?

The primary purpose of Disney Wars is to destroy the legacy of Classic Star Wars to make their new characters seem better in comparison.
It's far easier to make old characters worse than it is to make new ones that are compelling and interesting.

It's why TFA made everything that happened in RotJ meaningless
It's why R1 made everything that happened in ANH meaningless
It's why the Solo prequel is gonna make everything Han does in the OT meaningless

There was no need to drag Luke through the mud, if they really wanted to sideline him they could have made him ill, poisoned by Snoke. They could have put him in an impossible situation where he had to make radical choices. But no, they simply turned him into a failed hermit and then killed him, just to be sure Rey saves the galaxy alone. I really hope episode will be an EPIC FINANCIAL DISASTER; This time they won't even release him in China LOL FUCKING LOSERS

>if you want to read something that makes substantially more sense read the EU

don't forget to mention the games- the outcast series is probably a better experience

Because the plot was shit and they couldn't figure out how to include Luke without also having him easily surpass all the new shitty characters instantly and fixing everything.

>it makes sense because it panders to my autistic lorefag tendencies and never challenges my perceptions of the characters or star wars

they were all white males

>Luke's flaws in the original:
brash, bit of a hothead
gives into emotion sometimes but snaps out of it
>Luke's flaws in the newshit:
massive coward who refuses to take action
tries killing children in their sleep over dreams

What they should have done is explain how Luke got to be the way he was. Anakin had three full movies to explain how he went from good guy to bad guy, they should have done the same thing with Luke

So I suppose if Rey starts murdering orphans in the next movie that's fine right? Because it challenges your perception of the character.
You don't want Rey to be a Mary Sue paragon of moral virtue do you?

#makereykillchildren

How is your response in any way connected to what I said?

Luke had the weight of the galaxy on his shoulders and had his own Jedi Order to protect. When he found out Ben was conspiring with Snoke to destroy everything Luke cared about, it makes sense he would be a bit scared and have a brief moment of weakness; he considered doing something evil to prevent greater loss of life

>if Rey starts murdering orphans in the next movie that's fine right?
yes actually

>makes numerous responses not connected to what was said before
>somebody makes fun of you
>th-thats not.. connected
a bloo bloo, cry more you faggot.

Literally when Luke said that the jedi created vader?

Don't ask how did he know about this because we are talking about ST. A trilogy that is full of bad writing.

oh that was meant for

That was my first post. What the fuck are you even talking about?

>The Jedi created Vader
>Sheev had nothing to do with it

From the only explanation given in the movies, it's because both light and dark exist, so I guess neither side should use them. I think. It was pretty vague, wasn't really explained in depth, and mostly proceeded through reification.

cry more you lying faggot

>>Sheev had nothing to do with it
pure coincidence then

I can actually smell your psychosis from here. Get fucked, you paranoid little cunt.

Who said that sheev has nothing to do with it? Both the jedi and sheev are responsible for creating Vader.

>give Luke the Ben Kenobi treatment and have him be an old and wise sage
>Have him face his mistake in Kylo Ren and sacrifice himself honorably

is it really that hard Rian 'every day is opposite day when i write' Johnson

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...isn't this what happened though?

youtube.com/watch?v=v6AJp5VLCdI

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I don't think Obi-Wan ever chugged a light saber over his shoulder and refused to train a jed

>sending a projection
>honorable

>reeeee why didn't Luke assign the same importance to the lightsaber as I do
>reeeee why didn't Luke do ninja flips and blow up the whole first order fleet with his brain

Mark deserved better.

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Jedi = Jedaiya = Jude = Jews
The jedi as the jews, hate themselves.

Nope, but he should have fought in person at least.

>...isn't this what happened though?

No, Johnson wrote Luke as a bitter old coward living in exile after having failed to murder his nephew

Who's hiding on some planet, not wanting to be found by anyone, despite having literally left a detailed map for people to come find him

Fortunately, our hero Rey straightened him out!

This being the same guy who was willing to sacrifice his own life to save the spark of goodness only he could sense in his genocidal maniac of a father

Because Jew Jew Abrams and Ree-an Cuckson are both hacks who can't write shit worth a damn

Literally the entire point of the movie is the idea that Luke Skywalker as a symbol is more powerful than the man himself due to the greatness he inspires in others. Luke turning the tide of battle despite not actually being physically present reflects that core theme but it also allows Luke to confront Kylo without resorting to violence

But yeah no he should have just flipped around and cut off the AT-AT's legs with his lightsaber that would have been EPIC

This is what happens when you let hipsters write scripts

Because they made him be an eternal virgin.

I'd rather go with him cutting off the AT-AT's legs tbqh

Because they told him that Vader was beyond saving and Luke should just kill him

Maybe watch the fucking movies before posting bait threads on Sup Forums faggot

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>goes into exile on water planet
>cuts himself off the force
>"hurr durr then why did he have force powers before he cut himself off the force"

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>That's what the Jedi are. They're shit.
shit but justifiable. Fear,anger,hate and then suffering. It can all be prevented if they let go of their emotions completely and be completely logical. It's the only way to maintain order

You need to find a better argument than "lol shills".

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luke didn't leave the map you fucking retard

why do people think this

are you retarded ? The force isn't your weeb shit. It causes a lot of strain and energy to use, but when has it ever killed the user ? This would make sense if it was the dark side, not light. quit defending shitty writting

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>It's why the Solo prequel
You know i've never really found Han interesting by himself. I don't think i'm going to watch this one. What happened to the obi wan movie ?