Is this a flop?

Is this a flop?

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It needed to make AT LEAST 12 trillion dollars in the first weekend to break even

Oh shit its out?

Yeah, I'm thinking it's a flop.

how much did it cost to make? $162M isn't too bad.

Where the fuck is all that overseas money coming from

never mind i'm blind ($92M). it already made a profit then.

Wrinkle in time is the only 100% sure flop this year yet

Don't forget the theater shares and the marketing costs. Though I don't think the latter was much since it was never really advertised.

94* i think i'm having a stroke.

I hope not - that film was seriously comfy (especially the opening act) and I really hope Alicia returns to make sequel.

Seems like decent foreign box office but pretty mediocre domestic. Will that bother the money men?

>inb4 user finds out there are almost 200 different countries in the world

It will probably gross $220-250 million by the end of it run.
So, just a financial disappointment, not a straight out bomb.

That isn't how that works, duderino.

$40+ million from china alone

No it didn’t. That is gross box office numbers. The domestic theaters keep Half that total and the international ones keep 60 to 70% of that total. So the studio probably only made around $50 to $70 million right now.

By the way that is production budget. Not marketing. That’s just what it cost to make the movie not to promote it. This flick is still in a big hole.

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Romanian here - going to see it tomorrow with some friends

Tomb Raider is huge in europe

Not that big of a hole. It'll probably tap out at around 400 mil. It'll make a tidy profit.

it needs to make at least $200M

No, it is already a modest success and a sequel is likely. They were smart with the budget.

Is about to make over 2x the production budget so I don't think so

>around 400 mil
nope. It's already been released in almost every world country except Japan.
It will not gross much more than $250 million.

>Released like, a week ago
>OP's pic is literally just a five day total

Dude it's got longer legs than that. You're seriously underestimating it.

yup just like every WB movie this year

Why is it 3D? I actually wanted to go see it, despite the fact they cast a young boy as Lara, but the 3D is putting me off.

It's been out for 6 days

Do you include UK in Europe? Because I was at an evening showing in the UK this week and it was almost empty. Sad!

Watch it in 2D then? I saw it in 3D and wish I hadn't.

$40+ million come from China alone, where most hollywood movies notoriously drop very badly after the opening weekend. IMO it will not hold well in many other markets, probably in the US too.

That budget gets highers everytime i check it.

Are you sure about that?

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Who cares what it is? I'm not going to see it. End of story. Stop spamming this garbage already.

Not really, it'll end around 250-270 million which is a moderate success.

$270 would put it in sequel territory

so we better make sure that never happens

Doing this bad in the US it'd be too much of a gamble, this shit won't get a sequel. Maybe ANOTHER reboot

It's a jungle action flick
How do they justify a 90 million dollar budget ? It doesn't even have any name stars in it
The 80s used to push out Jungle Pics with 1/3rd budget even counting inflation

>no name stars
>Starring oscar winner Alicia Fassbender

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fucking foreign box office always saves pieces of shit like this. See: Resident Evil series, Terminator: Genisys, Emoji Movie.

>why can't people from cultured foreign countries just watch capeshit like we do in the US!

ONE MORE WEEK

ONE MORE WEEK

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>Thinks Emoji Movie and the 50 RE movies are cultured

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Easy. Unions.

Especially the nuts and bolts guys. A ton of construction companies make serious bank by charging movie studios high rates.

Assuming it holds steady with drops, it'll be a moderate to low end success.

It would be a tossup on if a sequel would get the green-light though.

If they adapt the second game, but severely cut costs and locations, it might work.

>Budget 90 million

Fucking WHY? I actually saw it and I refuse to believe you couldn't make it for 50 million. Hell do some creative sound stage sets and you could probably have kept it under 30.

This is a perfect example of Hollywood killing the mid tier sub-100 million movies and giving ridiculous budgets to stuff that just won't preform at superhero numbers.

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It'll make some profit after the theater run, TV movie channel run, and home video/streaming sales.

But the low domestic box office is really going to hold back the chance of another one. Same exact thing happened to the 2017 Power Rangers and Warcraft.

being an oscar winner doesn't mean being an A-list actor.
Even people like Mahershala Ali, Mark Rylance, Octavia Spencer or Viola Davis have won an Academy Award in an acting category, but they are still pretty much unknown to the general public.

>talk shit about Sup Forums
Racist joke against Jews and Indians
This shit makes no sense

The previous formula if churning out expendable movies but which had more creative control from the writers/directors was what lead hollywood to its success now, and allowed them to take much more risks.

Even "failures" were still successful and made their budgets back.

Now everything is either sink or swim and they're wondering why the medium is collapsing in on itself.

Assuming it's budget is 90M it needs over 270M to break even.
50M domestic where 50% take returns to studio
220M int where between 25%-40% comes back, bepending on country, lets assume 30% for easier estimation.
50% of 60M domestic is 30M
30% of 210M international is 63M
30M+63M = 93, so still one million less than 94.

>Now everything is either sink or swim and they're wondering why the medium is collapsing in on itself.

This.

It's going to have really bad long term effects on the next generation of directors. Actual creativity is going to be deemed to risky.

Also, the Marvel/SW films have proved that a studio will just drop you at the first sign of you not completely toeing the company line.

Usually through merchandising they can recoup any major losses or increase profit margins.

it doesn't work like that. in North America the distributor takes about 50% of the gross over a movie's entire theatrical run (the percentage starts out higher and then diminishes), about 40% in foreign territories, and it's capped at 25% in China.

it looks like Tomb Raider is going to end up around $250 million worldwide, which, if you believe the $94 million budget, means it will probably make its budget back in theatrical release

so not a flop but not really a success either

user, stop with your tranny conspiracy shit.

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Jolie has a wreck of a body. Her arms and legs are wirey and knobby. She had the tits and lips and accent. One glimpse of her legs at any of many wrong angles and any leg man will drop that shit.
Stupid stupid movies but they did better to capture the game than this new one.
And just in case you didn't know what I mean:
Fuck Angelina Jolie. She was shit in all but two of her films..

(OP starts a new thread every time I post these facts)

not a real flop but also not a success to justify a sequel

RE1-3 is good, 4-5 decent for a flick

home video and TV licencing helps a lot. many floppy movies end up on TV programs

CDAN described her as "A/A-" in a blind panning this movie. Case closed

A dud. Investors don't high-risk on movies for break-even returns. Financing is becoming a problem for Hollywood.

do major studios need outside investment for individual films?

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Sure they had unions back in the day too though. (Maybe they got around it filming It in another country)

Yes, except Disney (unless they want to go bankrupt in a matter of months).

The business model of Hollywood:

Make money off of other people's money, and make money (or at least break even) when you lose other people's money.

That is why they pretended to like Japanese in the 1980s-90s, and pretend to like Chinese now. They need suckers for investors.