WE TRIED SO HARD

WE TRIED SO HARD
AND GOT SO FAR
BUT IN THE END IT DOESN'T EVEN MATTER

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>triggered white nigger

sup faggot

sage

t's over we were never going to win. None of our pol conspiracies will ever come true. She's never going to jail, she's never going to get assassinated she is just going to win and Luke every election before some people will be happy some will be upset. Life will go on as normal there will be no civil war. Even if Hillary got zero votes and there was a video of her killing and raping a baby she would still win. There is nothing anybody can do about it she is going to win no matter what and it has always been that way. We have been blinded by our own community it's over and has always been over. We look like the new bernouts it's sad.

Trump will take NH and then you and your bitch queen are finished.

Seriously, California needs to be fucking nerfed

>New hampshire not red

Can't look at Linkin Park memes without cringing thanks to CTR.

>FL Red
>NV Red

HHAHAHAHAHAA

Man, the fucking electoral college in US politics is fucking stupid.

i never understand these images. Trumps got more states but he's losing? is it by each states population?

If the electoral college was removed and we went by a pure popular vote, this country would be blue for the rest of existence. The electoral college helps small literally who states in having influence.

been hearing a bit about nevada early voting looking good for clinton? any truth to this?

nice trips

Yeah cuz there have only been what 2 elections not popular vote?

If this actually happened then I can't even imagine this boards reaction

Popular vote doesn't mean shit. Each state's electoral college votes one way or the other.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_College_(United_States)

It's true, but NV (and most states in general) always favor dems in early voting. That being said, I'm pretty sure she's down compared to Obama in 2012.

The number of electoral votes that a state gets is based upon population, the number of congressional districts. It is slightly abstracted popular vote. On top of that all states but one have decided to be winner take all.

It's by delegates. The Don needs 270 of them to win. The American system is pretty fucked up desu

NH and that 1 Maine district will be going to Trump.

This.

If candidates only had to focus their energy on rallies in the big population centers (e.g. D.C., New York, Atlanta, Tampa Bay, Boston, Philadelphia, Los Angeles, Chicago, etc.) it would favor the fuck out of the Democrats.

>being mad states with more people living in them get more population
>being mad those people disagree with you

I haven't heard about that Maine district in quite a while.

The issue here is that Trump needs to take ALL thing swing states. Dems have consistently won 18 states for the past 6 elections. They have a MASSIVE electoral advantage to the extent that every election is a gimme unless republicans really, doggedly fight.

Given demographic shifts, if not Trump, the next guy or the next guy might be the last to make a legitimate bid for the republican presidency without being totally out of reach.

Keep deluding yourself faggoth. He's tied in PA and VA, and will certainly flip at least one of them. NH is going to flip too, along with 2 votes from Maine. Add that up for me real quick and tell me who the winner will be.

Fun fact: One can get something like 60% of the population to vote for them for president and still lose if delegates are taken straight.

This isn't even counting them voting against what the people say.

>want illegal immigrants counted towards a state's population to skew voting representation
>cry about Russia influencing our election

What if instead of electoral college only Whites that have served either a civil service/military role or own property are allowed to vote?

Then we'd be under the yoke of faggot limey fucks again.

Good, fuck tax evaders.

Technically on your map she'd only get 272, since an elector in Washington state has already declared to be faithless. Still a narrow win. My bet is she'll lose NH but win NV, which is still a moot point electorally.

PA - Clinton +6.3
VA - Clinton +4.3
NH - Clinton +3.2
Maine - Clinton +5.5

OP is being generous giving him most of the battleground states, especially Florida. I've said it before and I'll say it again - Trump has no ground game.

We should've let Germany finish you off.

>lying on the internet

>NH
>BLUE

What if each state was run by the president that state chose? Fuck governors and make districts or the governers would be the aids to the district president. That would mean third parties would be able to have districts, even. That would give all the players a tiny little one world government they could tinker with. Certain districts could have certain immigration laws and not necessarily be held down by sweeping federal laws but more powerful than states rights and be more economically viable than poorer single states that would be funded by California's taxes (inb4 they're bankrupt)

Checked! Praise Kek!

He could get NH. Not counting on it tho.

The GOP provides ground game you moron, Trump's ground game was shit in the primaries because it was entirely his own team

PA I

Philly usually throws the state blue. PA democrats aren't what throws the state blue. There are 1.5 million people in Philadelphia and 12 million in the state. Democrats number about 52% of all voters in PA, but they don't always vote democrat. It was stupid to take 45% of respondents from Philly, the state's culture and philly's culture has always been different. PA is generally red away from Philly.
538 gets part of the picture right. fivethirtyeight.com/features/pennsylvania-could-be-an-electoral-tipping-point/
I think PA will go red. I base that on:
1) blue collar democrats in PA like the word 'jobs'. PA's steel and coal towns died in recent memory. Trump said jobs.
2) blue collar democrats in Pa like their guns. There are plenty of school districts that close the first day of hunting season. Clinton said 'gun control'.
3) Septa strike in Philly- a bit harder to get to polls in town
4) Pa State police raided TWO Delaware co. Democrat organizations for voter fraud last week. And they aren't done. philly.com/philly/news/politics/20161104_Meehan_claims__criminal_conspiracy__in_Delco_voter_registration_probe.html
This will make people reluctant to try more. You got to give it to PSP, they are tight and upright.
5) nobody's hyped for Clinton and would just as soon stay home. People are hyped for Trump, nothing is keeping a Trump supporter away
6) the liberals at colleges who shill for Clinton are away from their residences, at college and they either have to go home to vote or register at their college
7) new voter ID laws that went into effect in 2012
8) 100,000 democrats --switched to republican-- so they could vote in the Primary. Pay attention to that! Because 892,702 people voted for Trump in the primary.

So there's plenty new over 2008 and 2012 in PA. Around 5,300,000 will vote in PA for the election, based upon 2012.

PA II

Philly usually throws the state blue. PA democrats aren't what throws the state blue. There are 1.5 million people in Philadelphia and 12 million in the state. Democrats number about 52% of all voters in PA, but they don't always vote democrat. It was stupid to take 45% of respondents from Philly, the state's culture and philly's culture has always been different. PA is generally red away from Philly.
538 gets part of the picture right. fivethirtyeight.com/features/pennsylvania-could-be-an-electoral-tipping-point/
I think PA will go red. I base that on:
1) blue collar democrats in PA like the word 'jobs'. PA's steel and coal towns died in recent memory. Trump said jobs.
2) blue collar democrats in Pa like their guns. There are plenty of school districts that close the first day of hunting season. Clinton said 'gun control'.
3) Septa strike in Philly- a bit harder to get to polls in town
4) Pa State police raided TWO Delaware co. Democrat organizations for voter fraud last week. And they aren't done. philly.com/philly/news/politics/20161104_Meehan_claims__criminal_conspiracy__in_Delco_voter_registration_probe.html
This will make people reluctant to try more. You got to give it to PSP, they are tight and upright.
5) nobody's hyped for Clinton and would just as soon stay home. People are hyped for Trump, nothing is keeping a Trump supporter away
6) the liberals at colleges who shill for Clinton are away from their residences, at college and they either have to go home to vote or register at their college
7) new voter ID laws that went into effect in 2012
8) 100,000 democrats --switched to republican-- so they could vote in the Primary. Pay attention to that! Because 892,702 people voted for Trump in the primary.

So there's plenty new over 2008 and 2012 in PA. Around 5,300,000 will vote in PA for the election, based upon 2012.

ITT no one remember's music from the 90s

My mistake, my polls were outdated. The rest of it is true tho. For Trump to win he'd have to deny Clinton every battleground state. She just needs one big state like Florida or two small ones like NH and MI to win.

PA II

Voted Democrat Voted Republican
Pa. 2004 2,938,095 2,793,847
Pa. 2008 3,276,363 2,655,885
Pa. 2012 2,865,690 2,581,357
Philadelphia 2012 551,070 90,989

That doesn't look great, with Philly carrying so many votes, but its not 45% of the vote, so NO, not a realistic sample, user. They should have sampled dems/reps throughout the state with only 25% respondents from Phila, to be reasonable. So this is a flawed poll.

BUT more importantly for the outcome, what nobody not even 538 is taking into account in PA, slipped most people's notice....

philly.com/philly/news/politics/20161012_At_deadline__Pa__sees_surge_in_voter_registration.html

More than 300,000 new voter registrations in the last few months in the run up to November. NEW. And they didn't benefit Philly.

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>/r/4chan4trump

jesus fucking christ

the hilldawg victory can't come soon enough

I voted for Hilldawg just to spite you idiotic reddit invaders

Trump is getting NH and 1/4 of ME though so it's all good

early 00's same diff.

Yeah and a month ago the GOP cut off all funding for it, directing all campaigning towards the Senate. Face it fucknose, trump already lost the election like he'll lose all his impending court cases. I'd be surprised if he has any money a year from now

you didnt go vote you lying lazy neckflap.

DRUMPF GONNA LOSE BSCAUSE I SAID SO

The GOP isn't that incompetent, I assume he used his own team. In-between not running ads, hosting mega rallies in solid red states, not running bilingual ads, not focusing on key states and not spending any campaign money, it's not surprising Clinton won.

nice shoop

>shillary might win
kek...
it doesn't make a difference though, we get epically screwed either way.

You don't really think that was music, do you?

This is the picture I never knew I needed.

THIS IS GETTING SAD NOW

she could easily win 200 maybe 220

You're right, there were more replies.

the namefag retard is a pro-hillary troll learn to read faggot

A Trump win will be close, but if Hillary wins, it won't be this close.

Only needs to win, CO, PA, or VA, all of which are possible. Fuck, Hillary is campaigning in BLUE states. She's in Michigan. A lot of those Blue states will go Red.

What most people here don't realize is that the Democrats have a natural lead just for being the most popular party.

Hillary's floor is 240. Donald's floor is 170.

WRONG. Colorado goes to Trump. polls today (11/5) prove this change in the trend.

this is only the worst case scenario
it will be close no matter what

Haha, what planet do you live on. Those are nowhere near enough. Right now leaning red or solid red states amounts to ~140. He wins to win Florida, NH, NV, Maine, VA, CO, just to catch up to Clinton. All battleground states BTW.

>Fuck, Hillary is campaigning in BLUE states
that's because she already wrapped things up in NV and now just needs to hold onto states leaning her way (i.e. CO, PA and NH) and that's all assuming Trump wins NC, FL, OH

checked

Why does that picture esxist

NC, FL, OH, and Iowa for that matter are all safe for Trump.

wouldnt it be tied at 269 if NH goes t Trump?

settled by a duel

Safe for Trump isn't the same as safe for Hillary. Trump's safe states are most likely going to be his, but it would take a miracle to steal most of her safe states.

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>ME2
>New Hampshire
>Blue

All those but Iowa are battleground states. And even if Trump wins those he's still about 80 from 270.

:DDDD

All things considered, this would be impressive considering how much Trump was written off as a meme these past 15 months. I mean everyone assumed he'd get utterly blown out at every turn, and instead he would've achieved that many votes and won that many people over. Even though Hillary would win, they wanted her to win in a landslide. They don't want to believe as many people in this country think and believe in what Trump says. This would be something that would make them irate.

A wafer thin Hillary victory is the best long term result for the Republicans

Hear me out

The country is extraordinarily polarised at the moment. Literally the only period of time where there was more polarisation in the US was in the years leading up the civil war (ominous I know). The next 4 years are going to be HELL to govern in - Economic conditions are naturally going to start declining as part of the Business cycle, Europe's debt is going nowhere, The Islamic problem isn't going anywhere, International geopolitics is going to get far more intense, and domestically the polarisation is going to result in more gridlock and disagreement. Would you want to put YOUR candidate through that Nightmare? If Hillary wins by a wafer thin margin, she's the one that has to put up with all that shit, meanwhile she barely won and with the polarisation in the country It means half the country is going to start hating her from day 1. The only direction is down for the popularity of Trump and Hillary.

Whoever is elected this election is going to be literally dragged through the dirt and abhorred by most of the country. I would rather that person be Hillary.

After 4 years of chaos under Hillary, Republicans will come back with a clean sweep in the 2018 midterms and 2020 election.

Additionally, a close Republican lose would actually help the Republican party fall in line. If it was a landslide against the Republicans this election, they would completely drop the anti-globalist nationalist movement Trump has started. If It's close, they would double down on it and punish cuckservatives who have fractured the party. The only way to get the Republican party to fall in line behind Trump (or whoever else runs) is for them to have a close loss.

>survey monkey
>most millennials I know are voting for Trump and I live in fucking NJ of all places

I think I'm a more valid source of info.

>If it was a landslide against the Republicans this election, they would completely drop the anti-globalist nationalist movement Trump has started. If It's close, they would double down on it and punish cuckservatives who have fractured the party. The only way to get the Republican party to fall in line behind Trump (or whoever else runs) is for them to have a close loss.

You have no idea about the people you're describing, do you? The establishment will crash and burn the party before they abandon their cuckservative bullshit.

Then what hope is there anyway? If Trump is elected he's going to achieve nothing. The Republican party is fractured and the Democrats will never work with him. Electing Trump in 2016 would be blowing your load too early.

Literally the only situation where things don't go horrible for Trump is if he's elected, and then post-election he miraculously manages to avoid any damaging leaks about himself AND Hillary is finally indicted. If Trump is elected and the Democratic remains a viable alternative, Trump's fucking gone in 2020 and Dems will probably take the house 2018.

>only associate with neo nazi Sup Forumssters
>wtf they all vote trump this is a GOOD sample