Did the holocaust actually happen?

Did the holocaust actually happen?

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No

Maybe.

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We were all created literally five minutes ago with these memories, so no.

It was 70 years ago, who cares anymore?

>in Europe you get arrested for even questioning it
Oh no goy it's definitely real

Nah, that's only a thing so that they have reason to censor people that are obvious threats to their government.

All we can agree on is that Jews, Gypsies, and violent political dissidents were put into work camps. The piles of clothing fits in with the fact that lice were spreading typhus and needed to be confiscated. The starved prisoners was caused by Germans abandoning camps as Allies cautiously advanced.

When you find some proof that it happened, let me know.

Yes. The Third Reich became a pure murder-ocratie starting in 1941. Best way to climb the military's ranks was to be a better, more efficient killer... Only in the Third Reich could vicious undermensh like Wirth, Jeckeln or Dirlewanger have any significance.

It actually happened, in my mind.

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>No 6000000
>no gas chambers

no holocaust

No, the Holocaust never happened.

legit question, why do anti-semites say the holocaust didn't happen and then say that all Jews should be gassed?

I mean, if you hate der juden, just say hell yeah the holocaust happened, it just needs to be finished.

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No

They were concentration camps, meaning they were used as prisoner labor.

Germany had these labor camps instead of prisons before the war.

They rounded up the Jews because they were gonna deport them all out of Europe, remove them from positions of power,etc.

This does bring up an interesting point though, and that is that the past wouldnt matter if we all knew what to do next, which we ofcource dont know and therefore use it as a usefull source of knowledge/wisdom.

Should germany really pay reparations?
I say fuck no.

The Holocaust is a hoax that Jewish people concocted for political and monetary gain. A majority of it is atrocity propaganda that Jews used to justify destroying Germany and to justify to the international community stealing Israel from the Palestinians.

because Jews use the holocaust as an excuse and a shield to do what they wish.
Jews are the enemy and if they aren't stopped, it will be the death of all of us

Nah they made a mistake it wasn't 6 million, but 6.1 million jews that where executed in specially designed gas chambers spread all across Europe during the time of war.

Hey fuck you buddy.

Basically only the labor camp portion of it is real. Everything else is a massive lie. If I remember right, you can take a look at the numbers of Jews living there and it doesn't really change at all.

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no but we want it to

>stealing Israel from the Palestinians.

You got some reading up to do m8 - that never happened.
The Holocaust did though

It never happened but for everything the Jews have done to the Gentile people the Jews deserve it to happen.

But why lie? I mean, if you're trying to convince everyone to exterminate the Jews, what's the point of saying the holocaust didn't happen?

If you want to take the side of the Nazis, then TAKE THE SIDE OF THE NAZIS. Denying the holocaust just makes you look like a liar, and therefore someone who shouldn't be trusted.

Why not approach it as yes, the holocaust happened because of x,y and z. The job needs to be finished.

Yes

Sure thing Chaim.

Its not a lie, its the truth.

It didn't happen, but it should happen again.

This. Truth doesn't fear investigation.

It's saying a historical lie happened that doesn't help the cause in any manner. Besides, Jews use it as a method of calling racism and getting special privilege above all others.
Why accept the mythical shield of those you hate rather than deny the shield and get rid of them down the line?

It will.

Not as described. In fact calling it the holocost it's a pretty big insult to a lot of people who died in larger more deliberate cleansings.

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wtf i deny holocaust now

Pretty well documented lie, then. All those faked documents and photos!

No, really. Holocaust denial just makes you look like a retarded moonbat. If you want to move forward, you have to embrace the truth.

it did. sorry you've never taken a history course.

Yes. people were gassed.
The 1st question you should be asking. Did the man who first used the word Holocaust actually ever get imprisoned.
The 2nd question is why the focus on the Jews when in reality there were the third group of people to be interned.
The 3rd question is why people equate the holocaust to the whole war when in fact it was when Germany was failing at the end that they deiced on the final solution.
The 4th question is why so many people from other countries who did terrible things not also get convicted of war crimes.

We have learnt nothing about the past because we focus on the wrong thing. That is why people like Tony Blair and Bush roam free and have yet to be hanged. That is why Clinton can run for president when she should already be in jail.

The Holocaust is just a way of allowing the terror of the elite to continue. It is designed to do that. It did happen but that does not mean the narrative should continue.

Well considering there weren't any Jews in Ukraine, Belarus, Poland, Lithuania after the war, Are we to believe they were never there in the First place? The world of Fiddler on the roof is basically as much of a fairy tale as Alice in Wonderland?

There there, first check whether it is legal in your country before denying the holocaust. I don't deny the holocaust, because it is very real in my mind.

As much as I adore the idea of gassing the Jews, I can't find any forensic evidence that supports that dream.

>Yes. people were gassed.

Stopped reading there. Read a book, english teacher.

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find me 1 primary document that prove the existence of homicidal gas chambers

>Pretty well documented lie, then. All those faked documents and photos!
Exactly Jews really went all out on their big lie.

>The 4th question is why so many people from other countries who did terrible things not also get convicted of war crimes.
this
japan killed millions and millions of chinese

historian here. yes it did. most people in concentration camps were jewish. and also most of the deaths happened due to exhaustion, starvation, respiratory diseases and hypothermia.

there were a lot of executions in and out of the concentration camps and also in the infamous gas chambers.

it did happen and it was prettymuch the way it has been portrayed. the only thing I would add is that other minorities muslims, slavs and mostly gypsies were also systematically isolated and killed although, in much a much smaller scale.

>faked photos
Who has that collage of the actual original photos next to the fakes with hung corpses and shit?

>I can't find any forensic evidence that supports that dream.

They were made into soap. The forensic evidence can be found everytime you wash your hands.

I am not an English teacher.

Are you denying they put people in a room and seeded it.

Nanking is mostly fictitious.

Weren't kikes saying "6,000,000" since before WW1?

Neither could Fred Leuchter or the curator of the Auschwitz meseum

Yes.

Even if it was true, so what?

literally wtf i deny holocaust now

ive never seen a holocaust
i bet no one itt has seen a holocaust
if you see a holocaust, take a selfie with it and timestamp that shit

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it doesn't make the woman any less dead.

Nanking happened but there are arguments that the Chinese killed their own and did worse duriing the war years.
Not denying that Japanese soldiers were brutal and forced each other into cannibalism.

>but why lie.
We're not lying. There is no forensic evidence that supports the mass murder narrative. The only "evidence" supporting that gruesome story are conflicting "survivor " testimonies and confessions extracted via torture and duress. Have you actually read some of those "survivor" testimonies? They're full of sick bullshit like masturbation machines of death.

Only the stigma built up around the Holocaust by the (((media))) protects it. If it were any other topic, it would be laughed out of court.

do a search for "Greatest Story Never Told". You're welcome.
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Here is a good video on Auschwitz:

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>Fred Leuchter
>muh Leuchter report

kek.

>Leuchter received a Bachelor of Arts degree in history

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Weren't most of them shot?
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IDK, really.. It's not like I'm a student of zee holocaust or anything and study it.

Thanks, I watched it a few months ago and it was eye-opening.

Too fucking long. Better be worth it.

The Bombing of Dresden and other cites was brutal.
The fire bombing of Tokyo was brutal.

The lesson is that war is brutal.
The lesson is during way people a killed, raped, mutilated and eaten.

Just avoid war and those who promote it.

First ploblem is that Dachau and Mathausen were concentration camps. It's a strawman. Auschwitz is the only death camp in the 3.

>and those who promote it

Why do you think we want to kill all jews?

There are many parts, but there's a TON of info that was never taught, from WW1 and on. Very worth it.

and what about the curator? he did his own forensic tests on the chambers and yielded the same results as Leuchter: There was no plan to exterminate Jews, they were sent to the camps so they could be kept in one place until the transfers to Palestine could continue

Think of it like this.

You are in charge of a large bunch of prisoners. You have lots of bullets but only one loaf of bread.

How do you divide them?

If the Holocaust didn't happen, why did no Nazis deny it?

>and what about the curator?
who?

>There was no plan to exterminate Jews
Himmler disagrees with you ;)

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i guess i will watch some of these and gain a diff perspective. from the course I've taken at uni though, i'm still sure Auschwitz was a death camp

watch There was never a fuhrer order to exterminate Jews, it was never the plan

Auschwitz as a "death camp" logically makes no sense in both its layout and it's location. Why would you build a "death camp" in the middle of an industrial region? Why would you store people in camps to deliberately kill them? Why would you waste time burning bodies one by one when you can just dump them all in a hole in the ground? Just take them out to the middle of nowhere and kill them on arrival and bury them in a mass grave, that's how deliberate extermination works.

>There was never a fuhrer order to exterminate Jews, it was never the plan
so you are now debating that Hitler was not responsible for holocaust instead of whether it happened or not? Nice conceding.

LOL What proof is there that that woman is a Jew or that she was hung by SS?

Is Rudolf Hess a Jew, then? I'm reading around and he gave plenty of testmony regarding the purpose and methods of the Final Solution.

Why wouldn't he explain or deny it? If there were some innocent explanation, he and other Nazis had all the incentive and reason to tell it.

So you'll just ham-fistedly ignore that the fucking man who runs Auschwitz did forensic tests and concluded that there was no trace of hydrogen cyanide? nice m8

Germans are efficient, yet they weren't able to build an efficient death camp. Instead, they built one of the least efficient death camps. It makes no sense.

I don't understand, am I supposed to believe that the Jewish mafia are pro socialism (Bernie Sanders) whilst also propagating the holocaust as real which is what helps make socialism associated with evil to most?

testimonies about the camps were extracted via torture and blackmail, this is a well known fact.

They lied to keep their families safe

>Why would you build a "death camp" in the middle of an industrial region?
train tracks

> Why would you store people in camps to deliberately kill them?
lol what?

>Why would you waste time burning bodies one by one when you can just dump them all in a hole in the ground?
>what are burning pits

> Just take them out to the middle of nowhere and kill them on arrival and bury them in a mass grave
See Katyn. Shooting them and burying them in mass graves was the nazis first intent. But when nazi leadership saw the repercussions that happened to USSR once katyn was dug up (almost put the allies against USSR) , paranoia installed. And since it was unspoken common knowledge that germany would loose the war after Stalingrad, nazis wanted to hide their tracks. They were partially successful, since there are actually people who deny it

Good point... I think the fact the death Camps were all on the other side of the Iron Curtain, and the Allies over-promoted after the war how awfull the concentration Camps in the West were, with the tractors hauling biodies helped revisionism. But what happened in the camps of the General Government and behind the German front line in the East is as real and terrible as you can imagine...

This

>lol what?
>fuck he's got me there, I'll just pretend I don't know what he's talking about

you're a fucken idiot mate

who?

>weren't able to build an efficient death camp
There were 3 million jewish poles
Today there are none

They were pretty efficient, if you ask me

Do you have documents that prove this?

No. There are far too many unanswered questions to categorically state it happened. Even holocaust fetishists like can't prove it happened 100%.

I fucking tried faggot. I used to believe. Hell, I originally came to Sup Forums to troll Holocaust deniers with hard facts. I thought "it should be easy. It's the Holocaust! Surely this is all well documented!"

But all I could find were a few piles of corpses that could account for a few hundred thousand dead, but not the 11 million claimed. The Bletchly Park intercepts of encrypted German communications contained nothing to suggest a mass murder program. Supply manifests showed that so called death camps didn't receive any more zyklon B than the work camps that used them for delousing. International observers from the red Cross were present within the camps and their reports contain nothing of mass murder (however they detail appropriately 200k dead from disease and starvation after allied strategic bombing made it impossible to get food and medicine into the camps). Nuremberg was a kangaroo court that openly refused to require facts or evidence for the punishment they dealt out. The first reference to the six million dead Jews predates the fucking war for crying out loud. People are forbidden from using ground penetrating radar to search for mass graves after one guy exhaustively searched one of the death camps and found that the dirt was undisturbed. Thought crime laws were erected in much of Europe to prevent debate on the topic under the guise of preventing hate speech.

I fucking came here with the intent of the btfoing a pack of racist nazis, but close examination of the facts made me realize that I had been lied to my entire fucking life. After waking up to that sort of betrayal, you do not feel sympathy towards the people who manipulated you for their own benefit. Israel's days are numbered.

wtf i deny holocaust now

Impeccable logic, facts and sources got me