Fool! I'm immortal, no man can kill me

>Fool! I'm immortal, no man can kill me
>I'm no man
>Ops should have said No man or women can kill me, I broke my own immortality, time for me to die now I guess

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>my power and physical nature is as such that any weapons produced by mortals cannot vanquish my form from this realm with brute force
>oh I just meant that anyone without a dick can kill me because reasons

What even was Hackson's problem with the Witch King?
>can break Gandalf's staff because ????
>can't even take the 3 seconds it would take to kill Gandalf afterwards because he gets distracted by a horn
>Eowyn's shining moment against him is now LE LOOPHOLE OOPS

it wasn't a literal statement retard

It was actually because the hobbit stabbed him in the leg with an enchanted dagger

tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Daggers_of_Westernesse

He wasn't literally protected by some magic that didn't let males kill him. It's just a legend about him that mortals were too weak to kill him

and here's the quote from the book about the dagger causing the ultimate demise of the witch king wraith

>"So passed the sword of the Barrow-downs, work of Westernesse. But glad would he have been to know its fate who wrought it slowly long ago in the North-kingdom when the Dúnedain were young, and chief among their foes was the dread realm of Angmar and its sorcerer king. No other blade, not though mightier hands had wielded it, would have dealt that foe a wound so bitter, cleaving the undead flesh, breaking the spell that knit his unseen sinews to his will."

>It's just a legend about him that mortals were too weak to kill him
No it's not. It's just some trash talk he said in the heat of the moment
The line exists more to set up the reveal for the reader

A cold voice answered: 'Come not between the Nazgûl and his prey! Or he will not slay thee in
thy turn. He will bear thee
away to the houses of lamentation,
beyond all darkness, where thy flesh
shall be devoured, and thy shrivelled mind be left naked to the Lidless Eye.'
A sword rang as it was drawn. 'Do what you will; but I will hinder it, if I may.'
'Hinder me? Thou fool. No living man may hinder me!'
Then Merry heard of all sounds in that hour the strangest. It seemed that Dernhelm laughed, and
the clear voice was like the ring of steel. 'But no living man am I! You look upon a woman. Éowyn
I am, Éomund's daughter. You stand between me and my lord and kin. Begone, if you be not
deathless! For living or dark undead, I will smite you, if you touch him.'
The winged creature screamed at her, but the Ringwraith made no answer, and was silent, as if
in sudden doubt. Very amazement for a moment conquered Merry's fear. He opened his eyes and
the blackness was lifted from them. There some paces from him sat the great beast, and all seemed
dark about it, and above it loomed the Nazgûl Lord
like a shadow of despair. A little to the left
facing them stood she whom he had called Dernhelm. But the helm of her secrecy, had fallen from
her, and her bright hair, released from its bonds, gleamed with pale gold upon her shoulders. Her
eyes grey as the sea were hard and fell, and yet tears were on her cheek. A sword was in her hand,
and she raised her shield against the horror of her enemy's eyes

>As his army was routed, the Witch-king fled north toward Carn Dûm in Angmar; but Eärnur and Glorfindel, with reinforcements from Rivendell, pursued the retreating party and defeated them. In the process the Witch-king caused the panic of much of Gondor's cavalry, including Eärnur's horse. But with the appearance of Glorfindel the Witch-king fled into the gathering darkness. Eärnur attempted to follow him, but Glorfindel stopped the prince and prophesied, "Do not pursue him! He will not return to these lands. Far off yet is his doom, and not by the hand of man will he fall."[5]

Sure, and the Witch King totally knew about and relied on that prophecy Glorfindel made that one time
That's not Tolkien just trying to make the line sound better

>That's not Tolkien just trying to make the line sound better

I think the key words from the Witch King's intention was "No LIVING man may hinder me" because he knew that the Dunedain men created weapons specifically able to slay faggots from Angmar, but the Dunedain were all dead and their secrets lost.

Also, Tolkien, being english, was probably taking a few liberties in ripping off Shakespeare. A couple shakespeare plays had prophecies that came true in unexpected ways.

For example, Macbeth received the prophecy that no man born of woman would ever defeat him, so he assumed that meant he was immortal. But then he got his ass kicked by a guy that was delivered by C-section, so not technically "born"

>so not technically "born"
That's bullshit, read a goddamn dictionary Shake. Ceasarian or not is still born from a woman, unless he called Vaginas women....dayum, maybe he did, Feynman would be proud.

>inb4 ">replying to a post old over 400 years"

Yeah that's one of the worst loopholes I ever heard. Fuck off Shakespeare

what a hack, I'm glad he's dead

>technically not born
This is one the dumbest things I ever read in my life

He was just taken aback at that moment.

You just completely ignore how jinxing and superstition in general work. It wasn't some kind of hard-wired situation where she was bound to kill him and he couldn't do anything about it once the mystery was lifted.

Keep in mind that this is a medieval fantasy setting where belief and superstition are bound to play a much more vital role than they do in our world.

"Not from woman born" like not taken out of a woman. In those days when you were c section your mum was dead right there and you were just cut out. She didn't give birth, e.g. passage.

I understand but it's still laughably bad

so a dead woman is not a woman anymore?

no, it's just a skeleton

The other prophecy in Macbeth was something like "you will never die until the forest of Birnam Wood rises up against you"

Turns out an army cut some branches from Birnam Woods and they were using them as cover to hide their numbers as they sieged the castle

>is OK when Kurosawa does it

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I hear that Kurosawa ripped off a lot of Shakespeare

"Ran" was just King Lear

It was just a thing he said, and she just happened to have a good comeback. It's called a coincidence, she didn't break his magic man-only immortality.

It was Merry's dagger that defeat him, really.

Y'all are fucking autists

this.

Hobbits are not men

You completely missed his point. And technically, Hobbits are men

>technically, Hobbits are men
no they are not

>Hobbits are men

> “If you can’t distinguish between a Man and a Hobbit, your judgement is poorer than I imagined. They’re as different as peas and apples.”

This is now a LOTRkino thread

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