Tfw a director saw chemistry that even the original author was too blind to see

>tfw a director saw chemistry that even the original author was too blind to see

Was not pairing Harry and Hermione together Rowling's greatest sin?

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Can we have a HermionexHarry thread?

Who gives a shit about these retarded movies.

"Deh!"

JK ROWLING IS A HACK! HACK!!!

Her greatest sin was being responsible for one of the dullest franchise in the history of movie franchises. Each episode following the boy wizard and his pals from Hogwarts Academy as they fight assorted villains has been indistinguishable from the others. Aside from the gloomy imagery, the seriesüf only consistency has been its lack of excitement and ineffective use of special effects, all to make magic unmagical, to make action seem inert.

Perhaps the die was cast when Rowling vetoed the idea of Spielberg directing the series; she made sure the series would never be mistaken for a work of art that meant anything to anybody?just ridiculously profitable cross-promotion for her books. The Harry Potter series might be anti-Christian (or not), but itüfs certainly the anti-James Bond series in its refusal of wonder, beauty and excitement. No one wants to face that fact. Now, thankfully, they no longer have to.

>a-at least the books are g-g-good though
"No!"
The writing is dreadful; the book was terrible. As I read, I noticed that every time a character went for a walk, the author wrote instead that the character "stretched his legs."

I began marking on the back of an envelope every time that phrase was repeated. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times. I was incredulous. Rowling's mind is so governed by cliches and dead metaphors that she has no other style of writing. Later I read a lavish, loving review of Harry Potter by the same Stephen King. He wrote something to the effect of, "If these kids are reading Harry Potter at 11 or 12, then when they get older they will go on to read Stephen King." And he was quite right. He was not being ironic. When you read "Harry Potter" you are, in fact, trained to read Stephen King

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"No!"

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>Was not pairing Harry and Hermione together Rowling's greatest sin?

killing sirius

That was a lazy one.

OP here, that is for sure in the running as well. Sirius deserved better than what he got.

just imagine it:

>deathly hallows with sirius on the horcux hunt
>binds the group together with bantz
>wingmans for harry, constantly leading ron away, allowing for Harry to put the moves on Hermione
>Hermione and Harry harry have a kino romance scene in the tent

KINO
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She saw when it was already too late. There's nothing more obnoxious than angry Harry Potter fans.

Shit intro, someone post a better one fast.

DEH

I know the whole point was to get rid of every father figure Harry had so he could come into his own at the end, but I have to say it still pisses me off that Sirius got killed off.
He was such a great character with so much potential had he lived. Imagine if he'd lived to see himself not guilty. He'd be a free man no longer forced to hide in Grimmauld Place, help Harry with the horcruxes, kill some Death Eaters, and Harry could move in with him for maximum godfather-godson bonding.

I was equally annoyed with how Lupin was handled in Deathly Hallows, when he offered to help Harry, Ron and Hermione on their quest, but Harry tells him to fuck off and stay with Tonks. The book would've been indescribably kino with Sirius and Lupin tagging along.

Harry didn't want to get COCK blocked

Sirius being around for the Horcrux hunt would indeed have been kino, but he had to die for the structure of Phoenix to work.

do you have the chart that has clifford for president in high-tier?

Grow up adult child

what the fuck does that mean, her thing that she bragged about to whoever would listen was that she had tons of notes on the series and had plotted out the ending long before she wrote most of it. How could she not see it or come up with a better ending than the two greatest men bullshit

High tier?
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This.

The whole "NSA watching the chimney flues" plot didn't really make sense since Sirius gave Harry a mirror specifically to communicate with him discretely.

Lupin was one of my favorite characters in the series. It sucked that he went out offscreen. The worse thing is that there really wasn't any reason for him to die. Rowling admitted she just decided to kill him off to up the death toll after she couldn't bring herself to kill papa Weasley back in Order of the Phoenix.

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>Lupin was one of my favorite characters in the series. It sucked that he went out offscreen. The worse thing is that there really wasn't any reason for him to die. Rowling admitted she just decided to kill him off to up the death toll after she couldn't bring herself to kill papa Weasley back in Order of the Phoenix.
God imagine the type of manchild that typed this post

>person cares about thing, ohh no!!!
Kill yourself my man

I agree about Lupin too. After a point it felt like she was just killing people for killing people's sake and she was

Harry and Hermione would have made much more sense, but Rowling felt that as Hermione was her author avatar/self insert sort of character, pairing her up with the main hero would be too arrogant so settled for pairing her with Ron.
Now the real big question was why did Harry choose his best mate's kid sister who he had barely talked to after CoS over someone he had great chemistry with like Luna.

I know it makes sense and had to happen, the whole franchise is made up of Harry finding father figures only for them to die, or finding a glimpse of happiness only for it to blow up in his face.

>Sirius turns out to be innocent and offers to have Harry move in with him which means no more Dursley life, then Pettigrew escapes and there's no one to clear Sirius' name so he's on the run again
>two years later he gets killed
>Dumbledore is like a grandfather to Harry, always guiding him, just about the only person who understands him
>dies
Hell, Rowling even planned to kill off Mr. Weasley when Nagini attacked him, but in the end decided that was too much. It's all part of the plot and it all serves a purpose but damn, Harry can't catch a fucking break

God how embarrassing
Do you play videogames still too?

Great chemistry is an overstatement. Harry didn't seem to care about relationships (except for the forced Cho Chang bull) which would make sense since he spent all of his time being hunted anyway.

also Hermione should have been with Krum lol

"No!"

do they even mention Krum in the books after Goblet? Does he come back like Le Fluer or whatever

Yeah that was weird. It really felt they were about to go somewhere with those two and I wouldn't have complained too much. I actually never thought her and Ron made much sense. All they do is bitch at each other. It was just as if they weren't together, it's just weird. Like I barely remember anything about Ginny too. All the couples felt completely random.

Wasn't Harry based on her ex bf or something and ron was based on her husband?

Lupin was great at the start, but sometime during the 5th book he changed and wasn't nearly as warm and kind as he was in PoA. Still a great character though who didn't deserve an off-screen death for no reason. The fact that Rowling was so blunt about killing him and some of the others just for the sake of it, to show there's casualties in war was really annoying. I'm fine with named characters dying, but at the very least give them a cool little scene or something. Hedwig, Moody, Lupin, Tonks, and Fred among many others all died in the last book and only Fred got something close to a farewell scene. Fred's death was sad, but all the others just felt like Rowling ticking boxes and refusing to give them any due farewell.

>>Dumbledore is like a grandfather to Harry, always guiding him,

Dumbledore was a manipulative fuck, he took advantage of harry more often that not and was a terrible father figure but then Harry was surrounded by shit so what would he know

no, he's a complete non-entity, much like fleur. But if they can create a romance out of her 15 mins of fame then I want a krumance too. desu it wouldn't make any sense, I just liked they interaction and the shit it caused for Ron

Krum is at Fleur and Bill's wedding for some reason but doesn't add much other than pointing out the Hallows sign was used as graffiti at his school

They didn't have much chemistry at all in the books, they never came across as anything but friends. It's the movies that gave people that impression, helped a lot by the dance scene. If Emma Watson wasn't so attractive nobody would even be talking about a Harry/Hermione pairing. She was painfully plain looking in the books, if she looked anything like the books describe her, people would say even Ron deserved better

She definitely did. These stories are Harry's heavily edited memoirs, which is why there's no scenes of him walking into a closet and finding Ginny being Eiffel towered by his friends, which 100% happened, or seeing Hermoine getting finger blasted by Krum behind some bush at the Yule ball, or him and Ron huddling together under the invisibility cloak in the girl's change room and trying not to rub their boners together in that tight space.

He shows up in the last book and gets pissed at luna's dad so that Harry will ask him about the deathly hallows later.
>Wasn't Harry based on her ex bf
That was Tom Riddle Sr. Remember kids if a woman rapes you and gets pregnant, you have to marry her or you are literally hitler's dad.

Do you know...I never cared about Fred's death. The whole twin joke was so played out by that point that it didn't feel like a joke anymore. I t just felt like they had no discernible personality, in which case killing one was just getting rid of the spare

The problem isn't that Hermoirne wound up with Ron instead of Harry.

It's that Ron wound up with anyone at all. God he's such a fucking loser. Throughout all 7 years of their adventures he never contributes anything noteworthy. He never does anything that any other average wizard couldn't have also done. In fact, he probably causes more problems then he ever solves, AND he's a whiny cunt about stuff all the time.

Also Harry's true OTP should have been Luna.

Do you think they took fred's ear and grafted it onto george?

What the fuck was the point of Fleur?

lol probably

>Dumbledore was a manipulative fuck
Well yeah, but you only discover that after he dies. It's all told from Harry's perspective, and for six whole books Dumbledore, to Harry, is this invincible all-knowing grandfather figure who can do no wrong and is constantly helping him out with everything. When he dies it's like losing the last father figure Harry had, and the one he never expected to lose.
Of course he then finds out what Dumbledore was really like, but still, his death was like the final nail in the coffin that made Harry realize he's basically on his own from now on.

Based.

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Her greatest sin is approving of the Cursed Child.

To be hot as fuck and show how dumb Harry was for not tapping that sexy Delacour bloodline over a gaptoothed british ginger and some chinky Scot.

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>invincible all-knowing grandfather figure

that let him rot with the dursleys? it always annoyed me how attention-starved harry didn't stop to think that dumbledore wasn't on his side and didn't deserve his adoration. Dumbledore had the power to make his life better and didn't, fuck him. If anybody deserved idolizing it was Hagrid, who was genuinely nice without strings.

Well she did have a sister, so there was still hope

Fred and George are essentially one character split in two so they can finish each other's sentences. I honestly still need to look up which of the two actually died in the end. They might be the same character but what made it sad for me was how one of them was bereaved of the other, forced to spend his life alone in that joke shop waiting for someone to finish his sentences

he can finish his own sentences or find a girlfriend

Did you seriously miss the reason Dumbledore left harry with the Dursleys?

tell me

Whats the problem? it shows how garbage this series really is

That's Harry's whole arc in book seven, finding out his idol wasn't the perfect paragon of righteousness he thought he was.
It's not that weird for a young boy to idolize Dumbledore for all he did for him, he never knew what his true intentions were until after he died.

Hagrid is hands-down the best character though.

>KINO
has kino ever been used by someone that actually has taste in film or art?

To extend the duration of the protective charm mother put on on by sacrificing herself. So long as Harry continued to live with blood relative, and visited them for a few weeks every year, the charm would protect him from Voldemort and make it so the death eaters couldn't just attack him at home.

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REMINDER this was the exact moment JK Rowling realized she fucked up.

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>she was really cute before being a feminazi
why does this always happen?

yeah sure that happened but at the end he was still head over heels for the wrong people. The whole "two greatest people I've ever known thing" was an eye roller. He clearly learned nothing even as an adult

yeah if you say so

DEH

Still a poor decision, raising Harry in a positive environment while teaching him about magic would have been the better choice to protect Harry in the long term. If Riddle had been resurrected 3 years later, it would not have mattered at all because he would be 17 by then and it would not work anymore. Magical barriers anyone can set up provide the same if not greater levels of protection. It would also have avoided the broom fight at the beginning of the seventh book to just have Harry travel to a safe location immediately after the end of sixth year instead of returning to the Dursley's one last time.

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Yes. She even admits it. Harry and Hermione share genuine moments of vulnerability and bonding. All of Hermione's interactions with Ron are based on jealousy and anger. Harry is the first to notice that Hermione is actually quite pretty, he is the first of their peers to acknowledge that Hermione is a genius, and he's the first to defend her against jerks like Malfoy.

The movie definitely didn't help by having all the Weasley's be ugly, uncharismatic gingers playing opposite genuine stars like Dan Radcliffe and Emma Watson.

Perfect

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It's fitting that the children of harry potter want such a generic pairing though. Remember this series is written people whose imaginative lives are confined to TV cartoons, and the exaggerated (more exciting, not threatening) mirror-worlds of soaps, reality TV and celebrity gossip

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>Rowling's greatest sin
that would be bad writing

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wow people actually engage in discussion over these books.
Thats really sad.
Grow up, do something real

They were rather vague about the extent of that protective magic I thought, Harry spent most of the time walking the streets to avoid being in that house, even got attacked by Dementors. But somehow that still meant he was safe as long as he called that place "home", even though the only place he constantly refers to as home is Hogwarts. And then there's the fact he spent most of his summers at the Burrow, so what use was the blood magic thing anyway?

The epilogue was a mistake, I think we can all agree on that. Should never have happened.

way too predictable

I agree but I only watched the movies. I always see people claiming Ron and Hermione had better moments in the books.

>Still a poor decision, raising Harry in a positive environment while teaching him about magic would have been the better choice
Wizards literally worship Harry, I doubt anything good would happened if he was raised in this kind of fame.

Disney moms aren't "people"

Selling her cooze to a jew for more acting roles tends to darken a woman's soul.

>Dumbledore had the power to make his life better and didn't, fuck him
Yeah, maybe cause he was preoccupied with defeating the most powerful magical Hitler that the world has ever known, and understood the necessity of sacrifice?

And what does that make you exactly?

"Deh!"

A bait, which you swallowed like a retard.

The only thing worse than this thread is that 'adults' seriously consider stuff like this.

The biggest sin is that she didn't end up with MEEEE REEEEE

The author of this pic probably never saw real bad books in his life. Harry Potter may not be a materpiece, but it's still miles above 95% of all books.

all of this. i never really saw them dating in the books but i definitely got the feel that harry was hermione's friend and harry was ron's friend but hermione and ron tolerated each other

desu it was lot more natural-sounding than the shitty forced ones

>They were rather vague about the extent of that protective magic

it was all an ass pull to make up for the fact that he was knowingly left with abusers. Rowling was trying to plug a plot hole

How pathetic is this?

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They didn't really. They barely interacted until the fourth book and even then Hermione and Harry are still going through adolescent "meet-cute" stuff. We can't even blame the narrative device because it's third-person omniscient.

dealing with him how? voldemort didn't do anything until harry came to hogwarts

based

Her greatest sin was creating a generation of retards that are pushing 30 and still referencing Harry Potter when talking about gay/tranny/gun control/whatever issues

>All of Hermione's interactions with Ron are based on jealousy and anger. Harry is the first to notice that Hermione is actually quite pretty, he is the first of their peers to acknowledge that Hermione is a genius, and he's the first to defend her against jerks like Malfoy.
What an odd way to interpret those things.
Ron and Hermione's dynamic was the typical teenage denial "eeew cooties" bullshit teenagers who like each other but don't know how to deal with it go through.
Harry was definitely not the first to notice Hermione's looks, it just reads that way because it's all written from his point of view. You're an idiot if you think Ron didn't clock that years ago, masturbating to her on a regular basis.
Ron doesn't give her credit because he's jealous or insecure and doesn't want to give obvious compliments in case she figures out he's into her, so he keeps quiet until later on when he can't stop being nice and defencive about her. He's also the first to give Malfoy shit when he calls her a mudblood, not thinking twice and instantly attempting to curse Malfoy with that slug charm two seconds after he said the word mudblood.

Whose wish?

her wish. she's hermione and ron is based on her ex-husband or something

It's a pathetic piece of misquoted journalism because Rowling never said that. She said she regretted pairing up Ron and Hermione simply because she planned to from the start, and she stuck with that plan even though through years of writing the characters turned out different from what she originally planned and they don't really fit. She never once said it should've been Harry and Hermione, it was a false quote that the internet gobbled down without ever verifying it

t. Ron

What do you see...

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did she ever say who she planned for harry to be with because the ginny thing came out of left field for me

A kingdom hearts door.