How do we fix Doom?

I think we can all agree that Doom-as-Iron-Man is a pretty shitty story. But how do you even follow up Secret Wars? The guy became literal God, and then found himself again on Earth. What do you do then? What goals do you set? Him going hero is the most logical thing, at this point.

But, you know, there's another way this could've gone. Him completely snapping and becoming even moreunhinged. He became God, but the victory was hollow. So he finally understands he was thinking too small. He buckles up, gears up, goes into hiding, doesn't appear for years, and then launches an assault that has Earth under his rule by the end of the event. His goal now is complete conquest of the whole Universe, not through McGuffins, but through actual warfare and conquest.

Retcon, God-doom was advance cyborg doombot and the real doctor doom is floating in space.

You can't fix Doom without fixing the Fantastic Four. Doom can't be divorced from them, despite certain writers attempting to try it.

That... doesn't work user. At all...

Eh, the F4 have fuckedoff to the edge of the Multiverse or whatever.Doom's now free to Doom as he wishes.

Secret Wars is about the best ending the MU in general could ask for, nothing really should have continued after it

If my options are Doom jobs again as a villain or he just fucks off like the F4, I choose that he fucks off.

Just show us a typical day in Latveria under Doom's rule. No superhero, just Doom's political day to day.

That, but stretch it into an actual series. Kinda like Doom 2099 but without the cyberpunk aesthetic.

>His goal now is complete conquest of the whole Universe, not through McGuffins, but through actual warfare and conquest.
that's so stupid. mcguffins are established as the most relevant means of conquest since ages already. not that bringing knives to gunfights isn't badass but there's a point where it's just pointless, obtuse and tedious.

I wanted doom to be more in pieces after SW, to be left in a worse position after the reassembly of the universe so he could climb back up. that would have been cool. imagine if he'd forgotten how to make his tech or his magic stopped working like what happened with strange.

>that's so stupid. mcguffins are established as the most relevant means of conquest since ages already. not that bringing knives to gunfights isn't badass but there's a point where it's just pointless, obtuse and tedious.
To men like Doom, it's the difficulty of the journey itself that fuels them. Simply becoming Ruler of everything is boring. But the war, the spilled blood and guts, that's what he lives for.

>I wanted doom to be more in pieces after SW, to be left in a worse position after the reassembly of the universe so he could climb back up. that would have been cool. imagine if he'd forgotten how to make his tech or his magic stopped working like what happened with strange.
Hmm, that's actually pretty neat.

The Doom Wing

>'s the difficulty of the journey itself that fuels them
nah. if doom does something difficult just because it's difficult, it's to show that he can. not being able to do it quickly and efficiently would defeat that point.

Sure, but it doesn't change the fact that he enjoys the drinding. Every time he accomplishes his end goal, it all becomes hollow. He needs something to win every time he's done with the previous one. He needs to live in a constant state of "war" to function properly.

He needs to raise children and stay away of Marvel bullshit until the FF is back. Valeria doesn't count

With whom though? It's not like he has many choices. Wanda is nuts, so any kids with her would be fucked up. Morgan even more so, plus, she's downright evil. That's the extent of his relationships... Maybe Emma Frost, like in Old Man Logan? I could see that working, all things considered.

>turning doomwankery up to 11
No thanks.
Just kill him for a while.

Doom works as a general baddie for most heros, I think. While his dynamic with Richard is pretty important, his general disdain of others is perfect whenever he goes head to head with those he deems lesser than himself - which is most (if not all) of them.

Literally stopped keeping track after SW. Even the few titles i picked up where less interesting. God help me if I read an SJW propaganda page Honestly, after reading Marvel for DECADES, I felt.....Content. I chose that this is where the story ends for me.

Not a bad idea, truth be told.

I'll take this one step further. Doom has had three goals
save mommy
prove to be smarter than richaaaaaaards
conquer the world

The first is done. The second can't be done, because even if he can outsmart him in one occasion, most of the times the hero will win.
Let's move to number 3. Well, you can't have a permanent conquest of the world and having him conquer it for just a few issues is pointless.
But what about a first step? Conquering just a neighbouring land? That could work. We should have a run, where doom permanently increases latveria's land, taking over part of the neighbouring lands. Politics, warfare, manipulating the un, inciting violence and rebellion in other countries so he can appear to be a liberator, dealing with heroes and so on. It'd be a very good story, imo.

Doom needs to bring back the Holy Byzantine Empire.

Pair him up with a LordVetinari/Machiavelli type of chancellor who solves all the bureaucratic problmes of Latveria while Latveria's glorious-crazy leader deals with grand political doings.

How big is Latveria even. I imagine it to house 300.000 citizen. A third lives in Doomstadt and the rest in arcology-villages. It may have a sceond city in which all Doom's robots are built, while Doomstadt is Latveria's cultural centre.

>implying doom can't handle all these himself

He is more the conquerer type - he lets others do boring stuff like that.

Like said, Doom's more the conquering type. Like the fact that he can take care of science matters, but he has a whole fleet of engineers and scientists. Doom's a jack of all trades, but you need specialists in such cases.

I feel like civil matters, laws and citizen behaviour would be stuff he'd want to deal with personally.

Possible, but letting someone else take over isn't out of the realm of posibillity.

Doom would set the grand plans and his chancellor would work out the details.

exhibit a)no human would be 100% in following a set of behavioral rules, all the time
exhibit b)doom would kill the chancellor who failed to have the citizens act properly, which would happen sooner or later (see a)
conclusion:chancellors get interchanged weekly

That's why I said the chancellor needs to be styled after Lord Vetiniari because he would be able to survive Doom's type of goverment for years.

the of the chancellor is impossible to do 100% correctly. The chancellor would have to fool doom or die.
So he'd die.

Well, he is gonna fool Doom by blaming Reed and the problem is solved. You are underestimating Vetinari.

Come on. Doom shouldn't be able to be fooled by his subordinates. I understand you like Vetinari and want someone like him involved with doom in comics, but doom not being able to be fooled by his underlings is pretty much a character trait.