I lost my middling construction job!

>I lost my middling construction job!
>BETTER SELL DEATH RAYS TO GANG BANGERS AND START MURDERING CHILDREN
>uhhhhhhh muh family

(you)

I love this type of villain.

>tfw you realize AoU & CW would have been better for phase 4, 5, or 6

>He isn't a family man

He didn't even lose the job, he lost that one contract.

Which should legally have entitled him to compensation greater than what the contract was worth by federal law (plus compensation for whatever he spent on the trucks), so really, he didn't even lose the contract.

I really liked the character, the villain and the story, but you're entirely right.

I didn't understand why he didn't appeal directly to Stark's company or something. His crew seemed talented enough to serve some purpose. They could have been the fucking Avengers R&D.

>I lost my mind!
>BETTER BUILD A GIANT CLOCK MECHA AND START MURDERING CHILDREN
>uhhhhh muh family

He still had to find ways to make money even after a settlement.

Weapons dealers don't care where their weapons go, it's all about money.

I'm still scratching my head as to why they offed Strucker like they did. I'm realistic, I know most villains need and will get just one movie, but Strucker didn't even get one movie. They could have used him instead of Pierce in Winter Soldier, or used him instead of Ultron for Avengers 2 (though it would have admittedly felt a bit like retreading both Captain America movies).

Why are family men the FIRST to start killing children?

...

I mean, it's worth noting that he wasn't originally trying to kill anyone. By the time the main part of the movie takes place he's presumably been doing the walter white thing for a while, though. And it's also worth noting that he was willing to let Peter go with a warning, but he didn't take the offer.

Though, my memory's foggy on the boat and monument scenes, so I can't remember if he was literally antagonizing children there or not.

If I can't have kids, nobody can

To be fair, there's like 8 years between when they started fucking around with alien tech and when Peter actually runs into it on the streets. Presumably gang bangers weren't their primary market until that point. Maybe the Avengers being active and the destruction of Hydra really fucked up their client base and they needed to start selling domestically in order to keep the business afloat?

I mean to be fair, if he his plan had actually worked all the kids he killed would have come back to life and he probably would have saved a shitload of people from floods.

Both boat and monument were caused by weapon malfunction.
In the first instance cause Spider-man threw a weapon to the ground, causing it to fire wildly by itself, in the second cause he'd hidden an unstable weapon's component with his best friend that got triggered by an x-ray.

The Avengers cause more problems than they solve, the character.

Welcome to basic mobster reasoning. All selfish sociopathy.

I'm disappointed we didn't get the scene where the wife and daughter found out.

>Tony Stark causes more problems than he solves
*fixed

you're using Cap villains for an Iron Man movie

his plan did work he just went to far back and killed the wrong Iop

Someone needs to really call him out on his bullshit.

Especially dragging a 14 year old to a superhero gang fight. You pump this kid up, convince him he's a gero, then go shocked and try to be responsible one when shit goes south?

You lost the ability to be the responsible adult the instant you gave him a suit and told him to punch guys with guns.

>Capitalism

>filename

He's a villain
Villains usually do bad things that mean putting others in danger to justify their own ends

>Clean up and rebuilding of New York
>Middling
There were massive profits in that business. Even Fisk had his hands in it.

>Sony wanted to use Netflix Kingpin in the movie before Marvel nixed it

Think he was the original buyer instead of Gargan?

You think Strucker had it bad?
The Leader existed in the MCU for all of 4 seconds before never being seen or heard from again.

> They could have been the fucking Avengers R&D

In all seriousness, Vulture and his crew are very likely THE foremost experts on merging alien and human technology right now. Id be shocked if they didnt get cut a deal by some government or powerful organization.

>Could have had an already well known, good interpretation of Kingpin in a Spider-Man movie.
>Marvel says no.

This...Kind of pisses me off.

he never actually tries to kill Peter though and its not his fault what gang bangers choose to do with his tech

he literally did not do anything wrong other than some heists no one got hurt in

Do we know who's going to be in the Venom movie? Is it Eddie or Gargan? Or will they go the Flash route? I haven't been following it.

Tangentially related, were his wings supposed to be a rip off of Falcon's?

Who the fuck knows. Its impossible to know what Sony is thinking these days.

>He never actually tries to kill Peter

Lying.

Maybe in the inevitable sequel

>dropped him out of the sky
>dropped a parking garage on him
>mops the floor with him on a flaming beach

No clue

You're fucking stupid if you think it's out of the question for a man who's lost his career with a bunch of access to weapons wouldn't turn to the black market

Less competition for their kids.

What the fuck does Tony Stark even do when a movie isn't happening? He doesn't manage his own company anymore, Pepper does. He doesn't need to manage The Avengers anymore, the UN does. He doesn't (and can't) go out and fight crime personally anymore, and even if he could he views it all as beneath him.

What the actual fuck does he do all day besides be self-righteous and party.

This
>make hundreds of thousands or more a year leading your legit cleanup crew (who are also all your best friends) rebuilding New York after the most insane destruction that has ever happened
>be an ambitious grassroots capitalist who believes in the american dream and suddenly has succeeding in using his hands to seize it
>plan for growth
>elevate your family into a high class life, can give your wife and daughter who you sincerely love the life you know the deserve
>person who caused all the destruction you've spent a career recovering from comes in and buys up literally the entire industry (new york reconstruction) you work in
>lose your entire income
>all of your people lose their income
>daughter is 8
>have a ridiculous mortgage to pay
>have millions of dollars worth of assets from your old gig
>sell it
>fix everything
Give me one reason why this doesn't make complete sense besides 'but its immoral!'
He was done with morality after the man who caused all the destruction he'd spend a lifetime fixing stole his, his employees, and his family's future.

this, toomes dindu nuffin

Gargan was in Homecoming so probably Brock

Don't forget having his goon try to beat Pete to death in the school parking lot.

My head canon is sort of. Falcon's is stealth and recon while Vulture is stealth and recovery. Also Vulture's respiratory mask kinda pokes holes in Falcon's suit.

The Tinkerer is by far the best addition to MCU and makes it easier for villains to get costumes.

>hurr only one person in the world would think of birds when thinking about flight
stop it

No that would be Marvel Bonny and Clyde
on Marvel one shot Item 47.

Benny is the first mother fucker to pick up and convert a Chitauri gun

He faps to your waifu.
I think he meant the engineering design, not the concept.

The whole plan was that he would reverse time and fix the damage he caused, leading him to think it wouldn't matter who he killed currently becaus he'll prevent it.

The guy who played Bane is playing Eddie.
It's going to be about Eddie vs. Carnage, who is going to be a hitman or someshit....I don't know it's probably going to suck, which sucks cause I've wanted a proper Venom movie my whole life and even in the opposite timeline where the MCU made a Venom movie, that would most likely really suck too and possibly even worse for different reasons, it's just not fair

how erect does this make you?

this is some top tier facebook me irl material

the comic run was good though, spidey teaching mutants was comfy as fuck

Im mad we never got a good fight with him

My headcanon at this point is that his head just exploded like a watermelon hit by a sledgehammer a few seconds after the camera cut away, thus why he's never turned up.

I couldn’t possibly care any less.

Holding out hope that the next big thing after Infinity War is Masters of Evil.
>yfw post credits scene shows Zemo recruiting villains like Fury did heroes in phase 1.

They are trying to do a Venom Movie without Spiderman, or even introducing him in Spiderman. Of course it's going to suck.

As an architect you deals in contract admin he would just sue stark industries for the value of the contract. He wouldn’t be out a dime.

>SELL DEATH RAYS TO GANG BANGERS

That was Shocker #1.

>AND KILL CHILDREN

When he first attacked Peter, he didn't know he was fighting a child. Afterwards, he always gave him multiple warnings and a chance to leave before he attacked. He even told him to leave at the end of the final battle.

>muh comfy!!

How come Sup Forums can't stand anything more gritty than a nosebleed?

It was a bad movie, the only likable character was Peter, and the fact that they had to make it about homecoming so marvel could slow stroke themselves about spiderman coming back so instead of a coming of age story of a superman they had to make spiderman obsess about a girl we know nothing about, oh and her dad is the bad guy. He might as well have wanted to fuck a hole in the wall

Wings are too big for me to take seriously

Criminals usually have stupid justification for their acts.

>wings smaller proportionally than an actual vulture's
>wings too big
???

>make an Iron Man movie
>call it Spider-Man
I’ll never understand this. You know what’s funny? Every MCU film offers a villain that mirrors the hero in some way. Vulture mirrors Iron Man far more than he mirrors Peter. Pete literally cut into an Iron Man story in the making. Sorry did I say Pete? I meant Tony Jr.

So your saying that if he didn't lose the contract he would still turn to crime? Shitty guy

dont forget that remark "maybe next time don't overextend yourself"

>You know what’s funny? Every MCU film offers a villain that mirrors the hero in some way.
And that's boring as fuck.

He builds more armors in between weeping while thinking about Howard and weeping while thinking about Steve.

I actually really fucking love that for once the villain in an MCU movie wasn't a mirror of the hero.

Man I love Ghost and it hurts that they're going to make ghost an anti wasp for Ant-Man 2.

How is she even going to work? It's not like Pym is active in the corporate sector any more.

>there will be a phase 4

God what a fucking bitch
>Hi, we're here to literally fire all of you guys from a legally binding contract, how about a little gratitude we don't arrest your ass for talking back you blue collar suburban retard?

>BETTER SELL DEATH RAYS TO GANG BANGERS AND START MURDERING CHILDREN
he actually wants to keep his operation as low as possible, and child murder is definitely going to attract the wrong attention

while some of his weapons are indeed death rays, most of them seem to be weaponized tools, like the grav-gun and a plasma cutter, instead of being out and out guns

>implying there's something wrong with selling death rays to gangbangers
Gungrabbers GTFO
Vulture did nothing wrong.

Rich people are evil and should all be killed. This fact is evident even in movies which attempt to portray rich people as heroes.

>He calls himself The Vulture so he should make a costume that is proportionally accurate
You sound OCD as fuck

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B-BUT TONY DON'T CARE ABOUT US!

It's still time times more reasonable of a motivation than comic Vulture.

>Hey I invented a pocket sized device that lets people fly!
>Wait, my partner in business sold the radio repair shop out from under me but not any of my inventions!
>RAAAHHHH I'M GOING TO USE MY FLYING DEVICE TO ROB BANKS NOW BECAUSE I'M MAD ABOUT IT

All MCU villains are shitty, not news.

>builds ten billion armors
>did dad really love me
>i wonder what's steve doing
>is that fucker bucky dead yet?
>my feet hurts

>I lost my mind!
>BETTER BUILD A GIANT CLOCK MECHA AND START MURDERING CHILDREN
Wait, that doesn't sound like something someone insane from grief would do?

Explain how Ronan mirrors Star-Lord. I'll wait.

This is a fight I would like to see.

Vulture is a petty criminal, most Spider-Man foes are
Since when do criminals need grand motivations to commit crimes?

>if I succeed nothing I did will have happened
>if I fail I don't care because I'll be dead

pretty much that guy is the one that tips Toomes off. he just kept his mouth shut (or the scene involving him is cut), they essentially takes Toomes best excuse to hate the DoDC and Tony.

I like the idea of scorpion being a cartel dude with a grudge.

When Tony kept telling Peter to leave the Vulture alone and that there are people who handle that kind of thing, who was he going to have handle it?

Seems no one gave a shit Vulture was doing his thing for a few years.

>Seems no one gave a shit Vulture was doing his thing for a few years

Vulture was likely greasing a few palms to make sure of that

They had a dance-off and Ronan was Thanos' Bro until he got the infinity gem. Same as Star Lord no longer being Yondu's bro after getting the same gem.

Ronan was barely a character.

This shit is why I hated GotG vol. 1. At least the second one had a villain worth a shit. Easily one of the best MCU villains.