Watch Iron Man (2008)

David Williams
David Williams

Watch Iron Man (2008)
It's painfully average, dull, people talk about it being one of the better Marvel movies but it's just as predictable and overrated as the MCU ones
Watch Ang Lee's Hulk
Everyone shits on it for dumb reasons when it's actually fucking kino
Why did everyone lie to me?

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Joshua Parker
Joshua Parker

I love ang lees hulk. Nick nolte was one of the most interesting marvel villains.

Luis Lee
Luis Lee

I agree.

Logan Smith
Logan Smith

hulk dogs were a bit weird as an idea. I really like the first half, it's a genuine attempt at doing capeshit in an original way, but the last act never made any sense to me. Haven't seen it in years though, but i did saw it a couple times and I've always felt dumbfounded by the last part.

Landon Collins
Landon Collins

that small part when he mocks bruce

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Eli Bailey
Eli Bailey

That's how it starts. The fever, the rage.

William Price
William Price

IronMan is utter shit. Can't believe everyone loves it

Tyler Lopez
Tyler Lopez

try to make hulk "cerebral"
kino

Yeah no this shit was not Hulk at all and incredibly lame.

Parker Torres
Parker Torres

Because it was boring shit.

Ryan Jackson
Ryan Jackson

MMM THESE GRAYONS ARE GOOD

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Henry Parker
Henry Parker

hulk dogs in the ang lee movie
everyone hates it and makes fun of it
tfw thor ragnarok did it and everyone praised it
Life is cruel

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Justin Mitchell
Justin Mitchell

GUYS LOOK HOW MUCH I ENJOY WATCHING BORING SHIT HOW SMART AM I GUYS?

Kevin Murphy
Kevin Murphy

YES MOMMY FEED ME MORE CAPESHIT!!!!! I WANNA SEE THANOS PUNCH THINGS

Camden Sanders
Camden Sanders

It's literally just marketing. They're using the same tactics to "change the narrative." The only time it didn't work was with Trump. It was very unusual.

Charles Gonzalez
Charles Gonzalez

because fighting a giant norse wolf looked cooler than a couple retarded looking pitbulls

Cooper Carter
Cooper Carter

Mark Hamill?

Grayson Perry
Grayson Perry

Why did everyone lie to me?

better question, why are you so new and dumb that you listened to /tv /?

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Ayden Hughes
Ayden Hughes

Ironman was like any other Marvel flick. I have no idea why people put it on some pedestal. I doubt most people remember anything about it except it was the first RDJ Ironman movie.

Jackson Rivera
Jackson Rivera

Yeah, this is basically his reaction to The Last Jedi.

Thomas Wright
Thomas Wright

its on a pedestal because many of us remember how it made us feel when capeshit was new and fun, before there were 4 new capeshits a year every year for a decade and we got bored of the gimmick.

Wyatt Brown
Wyatt Brown

I'd argue that it should be given more shit because it's the thing that landed us in this spot in the first place.

Owen Morris
Owen Morris

Because it’s literally fucking Norse mythology, y’know, the whole thing that Thor is from?

I swear, Sup Forums shitters have no fucking brains. Who would’ve even thought that a wolf that is supposed to eat the chief god in Viking apocalypse would be something out of the ordinary?

Nathan Richardson
Nathan Richardson

Go back to tiddeR. The position he gave was the normie position. The Sup Forums position places Hulk above Iron Man.

Kevin Moore
Kevin Moore

You don't have to try so hard to be a faggot, you're already on Sup Forums

Jayden Smith
Jayden Smith

I guess context is lost on children

Lucas Martinez
Lucas Martinez

loves bottom of the barrel garbage so much with no actual defense that he uses the "heheh we're all fags on this board, right guys?"
i'm not your friend, retard

Matthew Smith
Matthew Smith

boring giant CGI wolf is 'out of the ordinary'
I guess I should've known the MCU only makes movies for the creativity vacant

Wyatt Rivera
Wyatt Rivera

Now, to be fair as a third party, all you did was call them shit eaters with no actual defense or points of your own.

The both sides of your exchange was just you two proving how much you can shitpost, you dumb faggots.

Alexander Foster
Alexander Foster

It didn't have to be like this, they could have actually realized that comic books can be adapted to multiple genres. If they just had the ball to mix shit up every once in a while Id still be a fan. they dont all have to be the same formulaic action comedy. throw in a horror, fantasy, high concept scifi. Fuck it even a romance. there are plenty of options that they refuse to try,

Joshua Gutierrez
Joshua Gutierrez

Because it was the first capeshit since Blade that wasn't complete garbage.

Brandon Turner
Brandon Turner

Raimi spins in his grave

Andrew Davis
Andrew Davis

their defense was that the movie is "boring" which is the most brainlet non-criticism anyone can make. i am going to call them shit eating retards because all they wanted out of a hulk movie was green man punch things, god forbid someone actually wants to do something interesting with the material

Christian Torres
Christian Torres

Don’t be a faggot and try to misconstrue what I’m saying here, user.

The reason why this big fucking wolf was included was because it’s literally major component in the actual tellings of Rangarok, as it is foretold and eventually dies devour Odin. The discussion was never about it being CGI regular ass wolf, but to why it’s inclusion was there. Whether or not it could’ve been more visually interesting while still keeping the wolf aspect to keep in line with actual mythology is an entirely different discussion.

I’m simply saying that that post, which basically said “durrr why big wolf in this movie”, was a fucking stupid post.

Tyler Moore
Tyler Moore

You're right, first Capeshit since Spider-man 2 that wasn't complete garbage.

Christopher Bell
Christopher Bell

apple and oranges.
In the lore of the comics Banner became hulk through an impossible accident to reproduce. That's precisely why he spend his entire life on the run, because every agency on the planet wants to study him and no one has ever managed to reproduce his accident. Hulk is unique. She hulk is the only other marvel character to have some of his attributes, only because banner gave her an emergency blood transfusion once. Banner's blood is the holy grail of every military agency in the marvel universe.
The dogs are in the movie only, nowhere else. Not only that but they clearly are there to give the script a cheap action beat that very likely was put there by suits and/or producers.

While Thor fighting Fenrir is an actual event both in Norse mythology and in the comics. Fenrir is actually foretold to kill Odin during the events of Ragnarök in the Norse Myth.

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Isaac Allen
Isaac Allen

Explain why it isn't boring then brainlet.

Jose Sanders
Jose Sanders

You're too young to know this but before it was released IronMan was just anC list hero in the public eyes and everyone thought it would bomb. Then it turned around and kick started the MCU

Aaron King
Aaron King

because it tells a story in a unique way that wasn't really done by other movies at the time and has enough action scattered throughout the movie to keep the viewer interested? god i would love to see your ADHD addled mind fry watching a movie that has absolutely no violence in it

Thomas Phillips
Thomas Phillips

It did a shitty character drama and tried to poorly explain Banner's inner rage and the only time the titular character flexed his muscles against something was against fucking Hulk-poodles.

You're a fucking spastic with shit taste is all.

Adrian Morgan
Adrian Morgan

the only time the titular character flexed his muscles against something was against fucking Hulk-poodles.
so you're just shitposting and didn't watch the movie, carry on

Juan Butler
Juan Butler

beats them with a tree trunk
bites them back
punch one in the balls
slams them into each other
sticks his fist in ones throat and then pulverizes it to dust
stomps one into the car and throws it into a tree to disintegrate
breaks ones jaw by flexing muscle, then rips it to shreds

I love the Hulk vs hulk dogs fight. The only problem with it is that it's dark as hell and you can't see very well. Ang Lee's Hulk wasn't in the movie very much, but when he came out, he fucked shit up.

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Austin Bailey
Austin Bailey

Having the Hulk less > Having the Hulk more
It's much more cinematic and better to have him actually build up to that. I much prefer this approach to the MCU one where he's almost always the Hulk and just acts like a giant retard spouting quips.

Lincoln Thomas
Lincoln Thomas

Hulk is unique. She hulk is the only other marvel character to have some of his attributes, only because banner gave her an emergency blood transfusion once. Banner's blood is the holy grail of every military agency in the marvel universe.

This hasn't been true for a long time.

The dogs are in the movie only, nowhere else. Not only that but they clearly are there to give the script a cheap action beat that very likely was put there by suits and/or producers.

The dogs had a point actually, since movie Hulk was the result of his dad's experiments and those pups were his lab rats.

Lucas Price
Lucas Price

I've seen it. That's how i know it's boring shit. Even the most retarded of contrarians don't like this garbage because nothing happens.

Jordan Hernandez
Jordan Hernandez

it had more action scenes than that, but sure, blame the movie because only thing your brain can absorb is infinity war trailer reactions on youtube

Xavier Hernandez
Xavier Hernandez

Not him, but if he, much like pretty much everyone else outside of Sup Forums contrarians thought the movie was boring garbage, then what else should he blame other than the movie?

Easton Flores
Easton Flores

I agree. I think that the movie was way too slow for most people and that's why people hate Ang Lee's Hulk. But when he finally shows up in the movie, he's an unstoppable force

Nathaniel Johnson
Nathaniel Johnson

Any action is good action

This is why you're a brainlet.

James Martinez
James Martinez

you said that the scene with the hulk dogs is the only action in the movie, i said that it wasn't and now you're trying to argue a completely unrelated point. go away retard

Lucas Bell
Lucas Bell

The dogs had a point actually, since movie Hulk was the result of his dad's experiments and those pups were his lab rats.

And this is precisely where the comics fans started to gave up on the movie. The dad plot is a complete invention, not an adaptation. And it's resolution is rather inept and lacks any meaningful emotion, it didn't resonate with the audience. It's the fundamental reason why the movie flopped. Too far fetched, too much liberty with the source material, botched last act. The dogs are just the cherry on top.
And it's a shame because I still think the first half has brilliant bits in it. But it ultimately fails as a whole.

James Sanders
James Sanders

What would Hulk do to this dog?

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Henry Reyes
Henry Reyes

SMASH!!!

Alexander Diaz
Alexander Diaz

It almost looks like the one in the movie

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Nicholas Ortiz
Nicholas Ortiz

comics fans

I don't think an opinion from the group that is content to eat shit for years just because it features their favorite character should matter in the slightest.

Easton Lewis
Easton Lewis

The only thing I didn't like was the final fight with the dad. I'm not even sure how he beat him. I like Hulk better then The Incredible Hulk

Leo Butler
Leo Butler

A detail that I will always praise in Ang Lee's Hulk is that the angrier he gets the bigger he gets.

Christian Clark
Christian Clark

Iron Man came out ten years ago

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Connor Watson
Connor Watson

Does anyone know how much time passed in the MCU movies since Iron Man became a superhero? Like has it been 10 years?

Jacob Martin
Jacob Martin

maybe so, but then why even bother buying the rights in the first place if you're not going to be somewhat truthful to the source material? A studio buy IPs to give insurance to the investors that there is a core fanbase that will guarantee a minimum amount of tickets sold. To alienate this core audience defeats this purpose.

Nicholas Miller
Nicholas Miller

I'm not even sure how he beat him.
They nuked them both.

Jonathan Perez
Jonathan Perez

kek

Camden Fisher
Camden Fisher

why even bother buying the rights in the first place if you're not going to be somewhat truthful to the source material?

Because it's an established brand with a core audience that will see it no matter what. It doesn't matter if the viewing will alienate them, all it matters is that they'll buy a ticket. The main prize are those outside that core audience, it's them who you need to attract, not the mouthbreathers who'll be happy to chant HULK SMASH during action scenes. And for that purpose, comic book IPs are perfect because they are in mainstream's awareness on some level, be it cartoons, TV shows or video games. The less fucks given about "canon", the better, pretty much every successful superhero movie shits on established things.

Wyatt Collins
Wyatt Collins

Reviews of films are opinions and good ones entertainment in their own right.

Jaxson Allen
Jaxson Allen

Yet it wasnt cooler

Bentley Scott
Bentley Scott

But comic books are all the same lame shit exept with more fags and forced niggers?

Chase Long
Chase Long

The world is stupid

Jack Watson
Jack Watson

This

Brayden Wood
Brayden Wood

This so much. Same goes for the hate for DC.

Luis Perry
Luis Perry

It doesn't matter if the viewing will alienate them

Production Budget: $137 million
Worldwide: $245,360,480
Notwithstanding marketing costs

Hulk ended up ranked #14 at the box office in 2003 just behind Quenn Latifah's Bringing down the house and just ahead of 2 fast 2 furious, who both by the way had a much bigger ROI.
Universal biggest success in 2003 was Bruce Almighty, ranked #5 in the yearly box office.
Production Budget: $81 million
Worldwide: $484,592,874

You have your opinion, I have mine. I will however note that universal never even tried to do another hulk after this objectively poor business result. Sometimes it's a good idea to not alienate your audience. Sometimes.

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Xavier Nelson
Xavier Nelson

HULKINO

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Aiden Campbell
Aiden Campbell

Sarah Jessica Parker?

John Harris
John Harris

Kek at the smart mooks

Jacob Sanders
Jacob Sanders

ironman pretty good on weed though

Austin Gutierrez
Austin Gutierrez

I am going through an entire rewatch of the MCU and Iron Man to me was a bit boring, might be because I rewatched it quite a bit, but what surprised me was how it handled heavy subjects.

We see car bombs, taliban terrorists, tony practically gets waterboarded, they are completely fine with death and murder, maybe its just the way it was directed, but it no other film seems to be as dark.

Elijah Powell
Elijah Powell

being this analpained that people don't share you opinion on this movie
please kill yourself
oh and the movie was fucking shit

Nathaniel Evans
Nathaniel Evans

its been a little bit longer

Aaron Nguyen
Aaron Nguyen

Dont call him ang lee, you wouldn't like him when he's ang lee

Wyatt Hernandez
Wyatt Hernandez

so this is kino now huh

Nathan Wood
Nathan Wood

So Iron Man has been fighting crime for 10 years? I thought maybe it was like the X-Men in the comics, came out in the 60's, but have only aged maybe 10

Adrian Nelson
Adrian Nelson

ironman was a b-rate hero and this movie was literally what kickstarted marvel into doing the mcu

let me put it in a way you will understand
ironman is to comic adoptation what bladerunner is to the whole cyberpunk genre is spawned

Jayden Cooper
Jayden Cooper

The movie did wonders for Iron Man. Hell, they shoehorn him in everything now. It's like the exact reverse of what Superfriends did to Aquaman

Elijah Bailey
Elijah Bailey

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Liam Brooks
Liam Brooks

they had no more money left whatsoever or something? wtf

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Adam Cooper
Adam Cooper

Nah, Ang Lee made cuts like that to make it look like a comic. It's all over the movie.

Carson Richardson
Carson Richardson

That's the Fenrir Wolf

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