Recently re-watched this movie on an airplane, and I was blown away by how good...

Noah Evans
Noah Evans

Recently re-watched this movie on an airplane, and I was blown away by how good it was. Why does it feel so much different from movies these days? It was beautifully gritty and the dialogue is amazing. Stallone is an 11/10. I watched it 3 more times after that over the course of a week. What does it have that other movies today don't?

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Jack Bailey
Jack Bailey

What does it have that other movies today don't?
Unironically soul.

Jeremiah Morales
Jeremiah Morales

Adrian is actually ugly. Not movie ugly, but ugly ugly. Which makes it more real

Cameron Cooper
Cameron Cooper

Back then they tried to make pieces of art not just mass produced gruel

Dominic Green
Dominic Green

do you think his doggo is dead?

James Gray
James Gray

Because it was shot on film and had good music

Literally the only reasons

You'll tell yourself it was the story and the acting or some bullshit, but the real reasons were those two.

Zachary Morgan
Zachary Morgan

That's not it. The main reason is millenials are unable to form human connections anymore so all their social interactions mimic shitty soap operas, you cant make a movie like rocky anymore because people are way too narcistic these days.
Take that black rocky movie they recently made, his girlfriend is like a instagram model singer chick.
Rocky had a frumpy ugly gf and was a blue collar slob outside of boxing.
These days he'd be ripped and would spend his day taking instagram selfies while his bleach blonde escort girlfriend does a line of coke on the kitchen table.

Christian Ross
Christian Ross

I think the low air pressure messed your brains in that flight, because this movie is mediocre at best.

Charles Cox
Charles Cox

IT STINKS

Joseph Hernandez
Joseph Hernandez

Come to think of it, I watched The Shape of Water on the plane too, and thought it was good. Then right after, I re-watched When Harry Met Sally and thought it was a million times more entertaining and a way better love story. What gives?

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Henry Hernandez
Henry Hernandez

How come films aren't shot in film anymore? Or are they? I don't know anything about the movie industry, I just watch the shit.

Dominic Johnson
Dominic Johnson

This, back then it wasn't all quips, shitty cgi and there was no forced diversity.

Nolan Watson
Nolan Watson

When Harry Met Sally is one of the GOAT romantic comedies desu no homo

Carter Clark
Carter Clark

Man, Stallone suffered for this film. Lived on the street, lost his dog, yet turned down offers that said he wouldn't star in it. And you can feel it.

This is an underdog film made by an actual underdog and not some film school trust fund kiddies pretending to be poor.

This also explains why the later ones are trash.

Owen Stewart
Owen Stewart

Cinematography plays a large part into this.
These days everything is so artificially pretty or needlessly gritty. Its like people turned into complete retards. Thats a thing that always bugged me about chinese movies, they seemed so up their own ass with trying to make everything as pretty and glam as possible.
Now western movies are at the same low where every shot has to be some tacky sunset, perfect natural lighting, everyone looks airbrushed and everything is squeaky clean or comically dirty.
There is nothing to relate to anymore in those movies.
Basically everything has turned into a beer commercial and people are even styling their own lives after beer commercials. I've seen people from university go to great lengths to unironically set up beer commercial style photos for their get togethers just to show everyone what a great time they're having. It's peak narcissism and navel gazing.

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Logan Gutierrez
Logan Gutierrez

Shooting on film is a much bigger pain in the ass. Some directors still do it though, like Tarantino off the top of my head.

Evan Murphy
Evan Murphy

This, when Rocky is initially trying to hit on her at the pet store it felt like something that was actually happening.

Asher Reyes
Asher Reyes

It is not even narcissism, people are absolutely controlled by images.

Cooper Rogers
Cooper Rogers

a movie from the best period of American cinema was good
What's next OP? Water is wet

Tyler Long
Tyler Long

And these days even the ugly people are played by models. Even old people must be stunning. Why?

Justin Kelly
Justin Kelly

It feels very different from the rest of the movies in the series too.

Joshua Roberts
Joshua Roberts

I've seen them pose and snap photos for an unreasonably long time just to get that "authentic" shot.
I felt like I was trapped in a parody world of sorts.
Meanwhile my blue collar childhood friends at home still just uploaded grainy photos of themselves vomiting into the bbq with a tallboy in their hand. I guess movies lack unpretentious blue collar aesthetics these days because everyone is so self masturbatory in love with themselves and it translates to cinematography?

Charles Rodriguez
Charles Rodriguez

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Luke Fisher
Luke Fisher

Well idk i am blue collar myself hence why i am up so fuckin early shit posting and drinking coffee. Most of my coworkers are hispanic. I think it might have to do with this demographic shift. I am not saying hispanics are bad at all, just that a lot of white people do not identify with the working class because they are not a part of it. I know dudes my age that work in the food service industry when they could be making three times the money doing what i do. And my smart friends work in IT related fields.

Liam Hernandez
Liam Hernandez

Just like the first Rambo

Jaxon Garcia
Jaxon Garcia

Rambo even more so.

Jason Cooper
Jason Cooper

Took you long enough to get here. Took you ten years to get to my house. Huh, what's the matter? You don't like my house? Does my house stink? That's right-it stinks! I didn't have no favors from you! Don't slum around me. Talkin' about your prime. What about my prime, Mick? At least you had a prime! I didn't have no prime. I didn't have nothin'!

That scene was great

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Joshua Campbell
Joshua Campbell

Social media basically made it a necessity for some people to oversell themselves and their personality in order to get a high status with their peers.

Angel Torres
Angel Torres

I think people enjoy it. Most people are not very smart or reflective.

David Garcia
David Garcia

women always did that though, men always did it when important people were watching

Brandon Thompson
Brandon Thompson

it's a great movie. glad you like it

Juan Young
Juan Young

Social media just made it spiral out of control and now vanity is king and people are overdoing it while taking all the joy out of their lives because they're constantly worrying about approval from the entire world.
Social media was a huge mistake.

Leo Roberts
Leo Roberts

women always did that though, men always did it when important people were watching
t. generation Z

Isaiah Hill
Isaiah Hill

No it is a great success. Consumerism requires perilously low self esteem. Check out a documentary on Bernays

Luis Sanders
Luis Sanders

Stallone actually wrote the script for this movie. Nowadays is just companies writing scripts based on graphs and trying to appeal to a larger demographic. Movie stopped being about storytelling and became a product.

Nathan Parker
Nathan Parker

it was made with some actual fucking character and soul by stallone himself who cared about it and not some kike trained to milk retards for billions

Jose Williams
Jose Williams

this movie was actually terrible

half of it is just filler shots of this expressionless ****actor***** walking down the road and bouncing his ball

the romance between rocky and the girl makes NO SENSE!!!!!!

Robert Ward
Robert Ward

Is Paulie the biggest piece of shit in movies ever?
only hangs out with Rocky because he is a strong guy
constantly emotionally blackmails Rock to introduce him to the loanshark
hooks him up with his sister so he can have leverage on him
complains about his shitty job even though he has it better than Rock
When Rock gets rich he guilts him into giving him shit
never thanks him ever for giving him expensive jewelry, and smashes it in a hissy fit
gets a job doing fuckall, never shows gratitude
gets a fucking robot waifu and complains about it
loses millions of dollars, never even apologizes about it.
The only time he ever shows remorse for anything is in Balboa when his sister is already dead.

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Carson Sullivan
Carson Sullivan

it was a movie that someone actually wanted to make

Sebastian Gray
Sebastian Gray

Yeah, that's the idea of the character.

Henry Long
Henry Long

i believe you were looking for the latest marvel superhero flick thread

Aiden Diaz
Aiden Diaz

Not to mention he totally raped Adrian
"I have to go home"
Rocky blocks the door and forces a kiss on her. As bad as that is he probably also fingered her after handling his pet turtle without washing his hands, so Adrian more than likey caught some kind of vaginal infection from the turtle

Christopher Torres
Christopher Torres

I just wish Rocky actually fucked him up at least once. Paulie is lucky that Rocky has a sub 80 IQ.

Joshua Ramirez
Joshua Ramirez

Hey man, he asked if he could kiss her.

Easton Fisher
Easton Fisher

atleast those movies actually make sense

Aaron Price
Aaron Price

kill yourself please

Brody Fisher
Brody Fisher

In Rocky Balboa Pauly sorta redeems himself saying how piece of shit he always was to Adrian.

Jackson Wood
Jackson Wood

you actually like rocky??? HAHAHHAHAHA

everyone i know that watched rocky thought it was a comedy

it is the room tier

Jordan Jones
Jordan Jones

That's a bit late, isn't it? I'm pretty sure she hated his guts but let him into their house because Rocky can't be bad to someone.

Christian Cook
Christian Cook

Hate to burst y'alls bubble but the movie INDUSTRY is a business. And like all industris in a manonpoly. In the 70s you had many producers in the movie investing game. Making films like Rocky and other indieesque movies like Star Wars was just the major studios manopolizing a demographic. Same shit happened in music. Sign everyone and everything so no one else can. Now that the dust has settled, enjoy your capeshit movies.

Josiah Hill
Josiah Hill

everyone i know that watched rocky thought it was a comedy

over at reddit?

Gabriel Lopez
Gabriel Lopez

Adrian is actually ugly.

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Nathan Torres
Nathan Torres

Rocky 1+2 are legit kino m8. The rest of the series is fun, but honestly it would have been perfect if he had stopped at 2, then skipped the rest and just made Balboa as a nice little reboot. Creed is decent too IMO but the series doesn't really need it.

Logan Clark
Logan Clark

Lol

John Morales
John Morales

The Hateful 8 was shot on film and it was fucking garbage

Liam Anderson
Liam Anderson

Reed is fucking garbage, can't believe a second one is coming

Daniel Evans
Daniel Evans

It was fun.

Ryan Collins
Ryan Collins

I get what you're saying, but Rocky 4 is so damn fun.

Brandon Hughes
Brandon Hughes

The way they tried to recreate the running scene with the quads was a fucking joke

Blake King
Blake King

Because it was shot when America was still a great country.

Nicholas Ross
Nicholas Ross

Why is 5 hated so much? The parts with the kid were bad but the movie itself had great character moments and it actually showed that blocking hits with your face for 20 years is not good for your health. I personally think 4 is the weaker one, Drago has no character the whole cold war shit was put on too thick for my taste.

Hudson Wilson
Hudson Wilson

It really was not

Nicholas Campbell
Nicholas Campbell

Takes more time and is harder to produce.
More expensive therefore less profitable.
Those being said the extra effort goes far in improving the quality of a movie.

Landon Thomas
Landon Thomas

Italians were diversity for the 70s

Angel Wright
Angel Wright

He ain't punchy or nothing, he's just got what you might call a relaxed brain.

Dylan Martin
Dylan Martin

I think about six directors are still allowed to make movies with film because it costs so much, they keep the cameras and equipment around for them and them alone outside of those few able to afford it no-one uses film because digital is just cheaper.
Watch Keanu Reeves(yes seriously) documentary Side-By-Side to see more about film versus Digital.

Samuel Martin
Samuel Martin

Hate to burst y'alls bubble
Why are you talking like an Instagram nigger girl?

Tyler Ward
Tyler Ward

I remember watching the first two Lethal Weapon films and the houses in those movies were filled with stuff, not perfectly clean or artistically messy, they were filled with the kind of stuff that a family would have in their house.
Modern movies houses are just so sterile.

Samuel Young
Samuel Young

1 and 2 were perfect for me. 3 and onwards, while some of them good, i just don´t feel it anymore.

Andrew Martin
Andrew Martin

But it was a film made by an Italian about an Italian. Italians weren't just shoehorned in for diversity.

Carter Williams
Carter Williams

3 at least had the best fight, he finally learned not to tank punches to the fist and actually block and dodge. The first two fights were a fucking joke and anyone who fights like that would go down in the second.

Carter Sullivan
Carter Sullivan

when he pretend he black on the internet
Blame twitter and ig. If nothing else, at least it's a quick way to identify millenials.

Cooper Torres
Cooper Torres

touche

Gavin Adams
Gavin Adams

gets mad when mob guy tells him to take his date to the zoo because retarded girls like going there
proposes to Adrian in the zoo in the second movie

Gabriel Perez
Gabriel Perez

This also explains why the later ones are trash.
Stfu Rico

Jace Jenkins
Jace Jenkins

Did Rocky rape a retarded chick? Science says yes.

Jack Bailey
Jack Bailey

It's all in the implications. You can say nigga but you cant say nigga.

Chase Moore
Chase Moore

E yo Adrian's not retarded, she just shy.

Cameron Johnson
Cameron Johnson

I remember watching the first two Lethal Weapon films and the houses in those movies were filled with stuff, not perfectly clean or artistically messy, they were filled with the kind of stuff that a family would have in their house.
Modern movies houses are just so sterile.
Yeah houses in modern movies look like they're straight outta commercials.

Justin Perez
Justin Perez

no cgi.

Ryder Rodriguez
Ryder Rodriguez

Have you seen the ESPN special about the "Real" Rocky?

I can't find the 30 for 30 but it's this guy youtube.com/watch?v=vDdb-sth3y0

Alexander Wilson
Alexander Wilson

EY YO PAULIE

Isaiah Lewis
Isaiah Lewis

I've read the Time article and I've seen his fight with Ali. Wepner is Rocky in the sense that he was the underdog and his origins were similar, but he at least knew how to block.

John Cox
John Cox

So deliberate man. I'm actually so happy this thread is up, Rocky is my favourite film of all time. Without trying to sound autistic, the film is as strong in what it doesn't tell you as it is in what it does. For example.
Rocky training in Gym, and girls approach
Micky shouts at them, and tells Rocky that women weaken legs
Next scene is Adrian getting comfy with Rocky, but he has to tell her no.
That's your payoff, right? Well, no. Later on, when Paulie finally oes full asshole, and Adrian runs into her room, Rocky cools Paulie down, and then goes into the room.
Adrian sitting there on the bed
Asks him if he wants a roomate for the night
THE NEXT SHOT is of Rockys legs, as he trains the next day.
Obviously then, Rocky goes the distance, and barely loses. If he had said no to Adrian, he might have won.
tfw he chose Adrian over victory

Quality film boys. They just don't make them like that anymore.

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Hunter Barnes
Hunter Barnes

Joe Frazier was most likely a significant inspiration as well. Their mannerisms are quite similar at times.

Gabriel Nguyen
Gabriel Nguyen

Also hes from Philly, so maybe

Jayden Ortiz
Jayden Ortiz

THERE'S NO EASY WAY OUTTTTTTTTT

Aiden Lee
Aiden Lee

Holy shit, am I retard for not knowing this?

Nolan Walker
Nolan Walker

I dunno, I think Rocky II feels like a very natural bridge between the down-to-earth original and the "action movie" Rockys of the 80s, while being more like the former.

Levi Wood
Levi Wood

That fucking scene in 3 where he flips his shit against Rocky because he's a jealous piece of shit.
what have you ever done for me
you gave me this watch
you set me up for my job at the loanshark
I don't want your pity
can you give me a job?
Literally in the same scene.

Aaron Edwards
Aaron Edwards

gets a fucking robot waifu and complains about it

Dylan Jenkins
Dylan Jenkins

its unironically one of the greatest movies ever made
a gritty, inspiring story about working-class Joe Underdog taking on the champ and smashing everyone’s expectations

Chase Price
Chase Price

I think people just hated it because it was such a downer ending to the overall series, but that is moot now since Balboa. And you're right, 5 has some great stuff in it.

that Mickey flasback

Julian Williams
Julian Williams

Paulie was on every amphetamine this side of the Rio Grandee. Trust me, I'm a producer. You don't know my name, thats why I'm anonymous. But trust me. Burt Young ws troubled. You don't now my name. I'm not Burt Young, though. More like Butch Cassidy. And let me tell you, he was on a lot of narcotics. Trust me. You don't know my name, I'm anonymous. Powder. Thats what they called me. Powder Josephson. But that was another era. Trust me. Nothing could compare to the rage that would come in Burt Youngs eyes when he wasn't given enough of his nectar. My my, he'd spank Sly for days. Of course. Trust me. I'm anonymous. And you. You were the me now powder scoop downfall. Burt Young was. Trust me. I'm

Ian Thomas
Ian Thomas

Because Four has two of the best montages

Nicholas Jackson
Nicholas Jackson

Whatever you say, Rocky. That's why you had to show up at her work during closing with nobody else around, right? That's why you trapped alone in the apartment and made a joke out of her request to call he brother? Sure, Rocky. You're a hero. You weren't part of a conscious effort in 70s cinema to explore protagonists that were reprehensible people.

Henry Nguyen
Henry Nguyen

Well he's the only one who stood up to Tommy for him, Paulie is a pos, but deep down he really cares for Rocky.

William Hernandez
William Hernandez

Holy shit.

Hudson Fisher
Hudson Fisher

That just an extremely valid point that I will not hesitate to repeat next time me and my firends watch this as a group

Julian Williams
Julian Williams

Cool. I love the Rocky movies, though I struggle to remember much from 3-5.

This.

Joseph Walker
Joseph Walker

the only one who stood up to Tommy for him
The whole fucking bar came out to kick his ass.

Josiah Wilson
Josiah Wilson

Even so. No one snowflake feels responsible for the avalanche.

Nathaniel Morgan
Nathaniel Morgan

Dope. I get treated like an SJW these days for suggesting that it was rape but I don't mean it as a criticism of the film in the slightest. Quite the opposite. I think it was a bold, intentional choice that gets hidden behind the fact that the sequels turned this artsy film into an action franchise.

William Hall
William Hall

5 had a pretty decent ending for the series. Rock being filthy rich didn't fit the character. And it's not like he was back at zero, he was a world famous boxer who trained a world champion. His gym would make a decent buck. I found Balboa to be more depressing, his son doesn't like him, his wife died, and the only reason the restaurant runs is because he's an attraction.

Leo Barnes
Leo Barnes

rocky 4 is to 90s action/sport movies what rocky is to drama.

Luis Gray
Luis Gray

Well like I wouldn't call t rape, but I'd definitely say it was creepy, coercive. Did he bend her over and fuck her til she bled, no. Did he prevent her from leaving, yeah. IIts a blemish on his character, but I wouldn't put him in the same vein as Schneider for christs sakes.

Jack Robinson
Jack Robinson

It was more harassment than rape. She went full in after he gave her a small kiss, but the way he got there was not very nice.

Aaron Green
Aaron Green

its a 'pure' film
no cgi, no explosions, just acting

Elijah Hughes
Elijah Hughes

Don't get me wrong, I've seen worse rapes. I'd say it's comparable to the rape in The Fountainhead. You certainly wouldn't try those tactics on your high school crush.

Bentley Ward
Bentley Ward

Perfectly articulated, Thanks man.

'
Dude, you don't know me, okay.

Oliver Gomez
Oliver Gomez

Yeah there's a kind of Lennie from Of Mice And Men vibe there. It's not like he's trying to be forceful, it's that he doesn't really know how to be anything else.

Anthony Garcia
Anthony Garcia

I liked 1, 2 was such garbage because Rocky was a fucking moron whose "no no it's okay to waste my money, i know what i'm doing, quit trying to help me" made me pause the movie and walk around i was so mad.
should i watch 3?

Nathan Jackson
Nathan Jackson

made me pause the movie and walk around i was so mad.
Elaborate, please.

Levi Sanchez
Levi Sanchez

3 is the worst in my opinion. Besides the Hulk Hogan cameo, brother.

Elijah Martinez
Elijah Martinez

2 was completely in character. What makes you think that he would be responsible with his money? It happens to a lot of stupid people who fall ass backwards into money.
3 is a different movie, but still really good. it has good drama and the best fight in the series, but it also has stupid shit like Rocky fighting Hulk Hogan and mr. T pales compared to Creed, but he's supposed to be a punching monster so it kind of fits.

Levi Richardson
Levi Richardson

Also 3 has the gayest training montage I've ever seen and it's amazing.

Owen Green
Owen Green

It really wasn't rape though. You're supposed to read between the lines. She wanted to. He knew she wanted to. But her shyness and her catholic upbringing made her afraid to take the step, so he has to give her a push - which she does absolutely want, but on the surface it appears forceful when it's not.

Anthony Jones
Anthony Jones

Again, I would compare it to The Fountainhead's rape. Rocky isn't exactly a genius either, so the idea that he knew how to read between the lines is a bit disingenuous. Rocky knew what he wanted, that's all. I'm note sure what scenes prior to him getting his way are supposed to suggest she wanted him, anyhow. What Rocky does goes a little bit beyond "the chase". The fact that she's okay with it afterwards doesn't make it not rape. That's like saying a woman deciding she wasn't okay with consensual sex after the fact suddenly makes it rape. What Rocky did was rape, but it turns out it was a good rape.

Lincoln Young
Lincoln Young

M8, she practically jumped on his deck the moment he pursed his lips. He shouldn't have blocked the door, but the moment he took off her glasses she was gushing.

Zachary Wright
Zachary Wright

Okay, I think our point of disagreement might be that you haven't read The Fountainhead. Don't, it's a shitty book.

Robert James
Robert James

virgin, women don't actually "get wet", it's just called that

Jaxon Sanders
Jaxon Sanders

Subversion of sports movie tropes at the time.

Nathan Bell
Nathan Bell

I watched all of 1-4 this week. They are all amazing. Very good drama films and Stallone acts extremely well. The entire cast is great.

Ian Green
Ian Green

H8 Is tarantinos 3rd best movie

Benjamin Flores
Benjamin Flores

It takes the time to tell the story.
it takes time in general.
its not attempting to be something else like 99% of every movie today
it was aimed at Adults unlike 99% of movies today.

Ryan Walker
Ryan Walker

Did you not watch the other 2 on purpose or did you just not get around to it?

Ian Martin
Ian Martin

yeah huh, it had plenty of nigger speak, some balls shot, a bitch getting what she deserves

Jose Ward
Jose Ward

I don't think Talia Shire is ugly, just kinda plain and average, which makes sense for the role. Nowadays that have Amber Heard or someone play the role. Or someone black.

Henry Thomas
Henry Thomas

This is a troll post, but I feel the need to point out that that sort of thing was acceptable and even desirable in the 70s and 80s, same thing even happens in Blade Runner. Women back then were supposed to have some modesty, and men were supposed to take charge. If a woman wanted to really leave she'd claw her way past the man blocking her but really she just wants the man to take her like he was meant to.

Jonathan Wilson
Jonathan Wilson

Sterile minimalism is here to stay and we are going to have to pretend to enjoy it. Nobody gives enough of a shit to spend any effort on set design, or costuming, or sound design, or lighting, or really any kind of detail that would distinguish the final image by giving it character and purpose.

Brody Myers
Brody Myers

not using social media solely to follow for memes and shitposting pages
doing it wrong mate

Adrian Ortiz
Adrian Ortiz

Mick was right. Women are nothing but shit, sabotaging everything. no pussy feels as good as victory does on your dick

Zachary Hill
Zachary Hill

What does it have that other movies today don't?

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Jayden Lopez
Jayden Lopez

you are trash and you trolled me, i hope you die, go put a toothpick under your toenail and kick the wall. or else.

Christian Lee
Christian Lee

Rocky didn't give a fuck about winning, he just wanted someone to think he was a good person and that's exactly what Adrian did.

Jason Campbell
Jason Campbell

Heart is a buzzword people use when they can't actually explain why a movie is good.

Luke White
Luke White

Paulie is an authentic character. And the relationship between him and Rocky feels very authentic and adds a lot to the films. Paulie is a loser. He has no wife, no friends, is an angry man with nothing in his life except Rocky. Rocky is a simple minded, good hearted guy, who understands that if he dumped Paulie, Paulie would have absolutely nothing and would probably kill himself. It really adds to Rocky's character that he accepts Paulie's stupidity and keeps him around.

Also, Paulie clearly cares about Rocky and wants the best for him. His enthusiasm during all the fights says it all. He also does thank Rocky overtly in IV

Y'know Rock, I know some times I act stupid and I say stupid things, but you kept me around when other people would say drop that bum
you gave me respect. You know, its hard for me to say these kind of things because that aint my way, but if I could step out of myself and be someone else, *voice breaks* I woulda be you. Your all heart Rock..
Thanks Paulie
NOW BLAST THIS GUYS TEETH OUT

great scene btw.

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