Loki IRL

Does anyone actually like this for what it is? I don't think there's any fans of this comic who aren't just big Rebeltaxi fans.

Also, post other bad YouTuber webcomics

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it ok

Linkara Lightbringer

Pan's style is... Something, alright. I haven't read past the first issue not out of disinterest, but out of laziness, but I guess I liked it.

If anybody wants me to rant about the webcomic by the person responsible for tweenage girls wanting to fuck the purple guy from FNaF, I'll be here.

Eh, it's... fucking pan. It's not good. I said it. It's not. The whole thick outline phrase was only for Ed, Edd, and Eddy. And everything else looks... so boring when I read it. Yeah it's got the internet jokes but it's just Pan bitching about how hard it is to be an animator especially if you are pressured to do so.

Bianca is a fucking loser, everyone else is a fucking idiot or some archetype character with only one dimenosial. When I first saw this comic, I thought he was joking and that he was just fucking around but man this shit looks atrocious. And I'm a big RebelT fan, I love his videos but jesus dude he's not gonna get far in the animator industry.

Which one is that? I'll bite, lay it down.

I like his videos too but his tangents can be annoying and he hasn't outgrown the edgy hot topic teen phase.

It's kind of sad really, he doesn't have the talent to get a cartoon and his real talents are in video making, but he realizes that YouTube isn't really a sustainable career.

Take a drink every time Pan gets a bit too hyped up on goth girls but not actually being a decent person and learning flash animations. I remember JaidenAnimations a basically stick figure artist now is a fucking animation prodigy and she fucking self-taught her ass to do it.

Of course Pan is already animating but the squiggly lines font is getting old dude. There's a reason why Toonami died back in the old days, because people were losing interest and had to grow the fuck up a bit and go to a more mature styling.

I think recently he straight-up admitted that he can't animate for shit and just said it doesn't matter because Jhonen Vasquez never animated and he got a cartoon

To start with, when FNaF came out this tumblr user called Rebornica got super popular off drawing FNaF stuff. When FNaF 2 came out and they started drawing Purple Guy, tumblr fell in love with him. If you've ever seen the Purple Guy from FNaF and he's being called Vincent, you can blame Rebornica for that. Later on she would leave the FNaF fandom because "The toxic community was harassing her", which translates to people were getting sick of her fans harassing them for not drawing the same headcanons as Rebornica. She then had fake "schizophrenic" hallucinations of the purple guy which she used as an excuse to threaten people she didn't like.

Flash forward to like, Early 2015. She starts a webcomic called Pilot. Pilot is about the future, with robots and shit. I can't really tell you what it's about, because she updates it so little. It seriously only had 12 pages at the end of November of 2017, and it was only after that that she maintained a somewhat consistent upload schedule, until May, when she made a Patreon and coincidentally has only uploaded 3 times since then in the entire rest of the year. It currently stands at 29 pages, and nothing has fucking happened.

In this page here, you see those armbands? Those were supposed to be "gender identity" armbands, which everyone was forced to wear by the government so people would refer to each other by the right pronouns. I'm not kidding. They disappear like, 5 pages into the comic because people told her they looked and sounded like fucking nazi armbands, and it's never explained in comic what they are. So everyone just has weird armbands for the first 5 pages and its never mentioned before or after they disappear.

This is literally all he can animate

>sees kid who has fucked up skin that's totally unrealistic and not based on that way.

Pack your shit boys, tumblr comic. It's shit. It's poor writing. It's everything trying to be unique. We're done here boys and girls.
POOL'S CLOSE.

Of course it's a crotch pic, all he can do is crotch pics. I know too many fuckers on his discord who would voice act his shit in a heartbeat but he's too chicken shit to do it. . Well at least I have a strict policy on donating to shit causes.

user go review this shit on badwebcomicswikia they will love to have your awesome ass.

Oh god, the shift of expression from panel to panel gives me fucking whiplash.

Literally looks like QC 2.0

>Those were supposed to be "gender identity" armbands, which everyone was forced to wear by the government so people would refer to each other by the right pronouns.

That sounds like something that would piss off tumblr ironically.

But then again people do the same thing in college with backpack pins and rainbow bracelets voluntarily so who am I to guess what they will and won't like.

>They disappear like, 5 pages into the comic because people told her they looked and sounded like fucking nazi armband

And they do. I'm sure right and left ideologies would have a field day with it.

Not only that, but he animates this OC's mouth opening and closing.

I think part of the problem is he wants his style to be serious business. Even Invader Zim had a style that edgy teens could connect with, but it also went cute or ugly in a funny way and didn't see itself as srs biznss. He just needs to loosen up.
>comparing yourself to a cartoon cultural icon
Ego

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Oh and did you notice how there were like, two people with Vitiligo on that page despite it being ridiculously rare?

Furthermore, Rebornica (Or Bones as she calls herself now) is really fond of stealing things. If she doesn't like someone, she will steal and make obvious knockoffs of their character designs. If she likes something in media, she'll knock it off. She has really fucking obvious ripoffs of Gaster, Fire Man and Ice Man, One of the characters from Overwatch concept art, the list goes on. And none of these characters are in the fucking comic yet, but she spoils so many fucking characters, their entire characters arcs and plot points on her twitter. And yet I STILL don't fucking know what this comic is about. There's so many plots and arcs she rambles about and literally none of them are about any of the characters who have actually appeared in the comic yet. The comic is called Pilot, named after the character, Pilot, and yet I know jack shit all about Pilot because she's too busy rambling about her other characters to actually update her fucking comic!

That's not a bad idea. I do love me a good writing exercise.

Here's another page from the comic made like, a year or two after the first one I posted, and it's only 18 pages later. Notice how the chick has no forehead and everyone has these bigass potato noses? That's the art level you're in for.

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What is this for?
Awkward-sounding dialogue. Doesn't really flow well.

Soon he won't even do that

pan-pizza.tumblr.com/post/165495491435

How is his porn so direly un-sexy?

It's stiff and inorganic. The post is really not that sensual and all that body hair is keeping it from being "traditionally" attractive.

Is okay

It's really shitty and goes way too far with the angular style for characters.

Also having a character constantly reference other media doesn't make a good insane character or entertaining "bad guy"

>Also, post other bad YouTuber webcomics
oh boy, anyone follow holly brown's antics around here?

I love this video.

youtube.com/watch?v=-ZLDhCzIu3c

Never heard of her, please go on an autistic rant like I just did about Rebornica.

Dunno, I think a story about characters living in a world that spontaneously disappears into a white nothingness sounds kind of interesting

According to his post:

>Wanted to draw my Loki IRL characters as OK KO characters since I find there to be a lot of similarities. Will draw more some other time.

>A young aspiring kid with a binder full of heroes and villains who befriends a tall rapping green man said to be from outer space who tries really hard to be cool. They hang around a store with a neon hair retail employee girl too good for this job dealing with stupid customers. The world around them is surrounded by colorful sketchy outlined weirdos. The premise relies on a bunch of retro cartoons and early 2000s pop culture references. Like that other green unkempt dork still oppressed with nu metal enough to be wearing Rave Pants in broad daylight.

>trying this hard to get ian to hire you

I made a redline of one of the pages.
I almost want to go into more detail and explain exactly why the artstyle and writing doesn't seem to work, cause I do think it has potential and that pan is actually a talented layout artist trying to be a cartoonist when he should just pull a Bob Ross. At the same time I think it'd fall on deaf ears and so not really be worth the time, though there is quite a lot to say about it for educational purposes.

Original page for comparison.

>I almost want to go into more detail and explain exactly why the artstyle and writing doesn't seem to work
Maybe summarize what doesn't work in a sentence or two? I really want to know what the deal is with it because I want to (try to) make comics someday.

Horrible font, dialogue doesn't flow well.
>The premise relies on a bunch of retro cartoons and early 2000s pop culture references
This sort of thing is always a warning sign.

There's almost enough "subtle" preachy whining in here to rival a Dobson comic.

In terms of art, his layout is good, but the actual characters are overbaked. It looks like he spent so much time trying to design them individually that he forgot that they're supposed to be characters in a story and not pop icons. So the construction of their figure follows all these weird visual tangents and unclear rules when it comes to the aesthetic, that it doesn't come off as cohesive. Look at something like teenage robot, everything in it was about presenting that nice aesthetic flat retro style and they gave themselves very clear rules, so even if it's abstract and not natural, it still looks pleasant. Pan skipped the part where he tells himself what doesn't work. Hes also just not very skilled at figure construction or line of action or gesture drawings, he gets it right for simpler characters, but not so much for the more complex ones.

In terms of writing, it's actually good in that it's compressed enough to not go on random tangents and you know what the general point of the motiff are, but he does a poor job making his characters three dimensional. They're very one note and so they feel the same no matter what scenario they're in, they're not really challenged a lot, and the plot isn't a reflection of any kind of challenge. You can tell pan wants to make a story about his disillusionment as an artist, but he hasn't sat down to actually figure out what he wants to say, let alone making a script.

In short, he seems to think a lot about his art and his influences, but he stops and doesn't plan beyond a superficial influence into something with meat on it. It's inconsistent, and so the entire illusion of a fictional story falls apart. ThE characters and their art are both abstract but too literal and one note to be really engaging, and while he keeps a good pace, it's a pace for a half cooked story.

I'm sure I could say something more thought out but I'm just phone posting the basic gestalt.

>those tits
Ew

What do you recommend he do to git gud? Cause you just know he's gonna read this thread at some point.

I'd be interested to hear your opinion, user.

I really dig his art-style from the perspective a graffiti artist.

From my background the only gripe I have with his comic is that he has an inconsistent use of angles and circles when posing some characters. Like a part will be swoopy and flared out but other parts of the drawing might be more circular and blunt. Don't know if i'm making sense

Honestly, people like him are about making characters look as "unique" as possible and they take a silly cartoony artstyle way too seriously. Draw the characters in one style and be willing to be flexible with the style in a way that lends to it being able to cover a wide spectrum of emotions and situations.

His art has improved a bit since chapter 1

For art? If he wants to be a cartoonist, the guy needs to hit the bricks and get back to basics. He doesn't need to go full LOOMIS but he absolutely should go try and emulate more figure focused art so he doesn't hide his flaws behind over stylized aesthetics. He should also hit up some videos and courses and stuff about writing and storytelling. I'd suggest he exercise by making short five or even one page comics he scripts beforehand, use them to experiment and teach himself some techniques in different styles. He really needs to experiment if he wants to improve, though his video making might get in the way of that.

In general? He should probably reconsider what he wants to do with his life and art and make a decision based off that.

See

Post some of it and I might redline it.

Didn't notice you actually elaborated, my bad

But yeah I agree. It always felt his characters would sit better on a graphic T-Shirt

Legend has it Pan Pizza was born and raised in a Hot Topic

I have never heard of whatever this is before, but those are some of the worst character designs I've seen in a while. They look like deviantart OC Gangreene Gang members.

I fucking despise this characters head. It just doesn't make any fucking sense like some non-euclidian hairdo.

I remember that pan talked about having to redesign one of his characters because he looked awful except from a very specific angle.

Pan's art looks like shit.

Is Pan the new Dobson?

No.

1. Pan doesn't see himself as a god or a talented person. He sees himself as trying, but his trying isn't good enough and he knows this. He's not trying to defend his style and he admits that he still needs to work with shit.

2. Dobson has eons of experience in the nerd industry and culture and he still thinks that he's top shit. I think the one thing about Dobson is that his characters aren't good, his characters are ripoffs and everyone knows it. Pan is original with his shit, it may not be good shit. But it's original and it's not this constant recolors between everything and making things more of a problem.

3. Pan's not that much of a fedora wearing fuckboy like Dobson, Dobson actually tried to cause some sort of commotion from just taking a picture of a power girl cosplayer which in reality there was no commotion. Dobson literally thrives the attention because he loves to get chewed out. I think Pan just wants a cartoon for the sake of it but not really for the reason he wants one. He wants one for vanity but not towards the idea of him putting his creations up to life.

Also dude, at least Pan gets cash from his videos, Dobson bitches about shit on twitter that he doesn't understand.

I forgot about Rebornica. All I can remember from her is that she got into a shit ton of arguments about being non-binary and thought she was hot shit.

Every video I've seen of this guy is obnoxious and stupid and his art is, well, meh. But I follow his tumblr for the memes

Pan, is that you?

No this is him

>Entire plot is about people making their artistic creations come into real life
>Real life people are just as odd looking and hyper stylized as the creations
>All creations have the same exact style and look

People used to paint realism all the time back in the day, so what?

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Thanks. It seems like you know your stuff. How did you learn/what do you do?

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>He doesn't need to go full LOOMIS but he absolutely should go try and emulate more figure focused art so he doesn't hide his flaws behind over stylized aesthetics

I kinda have this problem too with my art. Often I feel like my figures are too stiff, rigid, and lack rhythm. I've been trying Loomis but what exactly do you mean by other figure focused art? Anything specific in mind?

Jesus, what a lazy fuck.

I dont really like the writing or the setting and im not found of the concept
But holy shit Pan's art style is god tier
Its like if Panty and Stocking and Invader Zim had a mexican skull baby

Take art appreciation classes. No seriously, take art appreciation classes and at least know what the hell they are talking about. I can't draw for shit, but I at least know the color wheel and actually how to make characters designs somewhat interesting with my own experience of seeing kids fuck up with trying to be edgy.

THIS. a decent concept wasted because pan is such an lazy amateur artist.

Heya Pan, nice of you to show up.

Pan bothers me in a way that a lot of wanna be internet animators from tumblr to deviantart to reddit to this site do. He wants to make a cartoon that he wants to watch, not something that kids necessarily want to watch. It's obviously important to make your story be something your invested in but if you're making a cartoon for kids shouldn't it be something kids would actually enjoy watching?

Cool concept, terrible execution

He draws in a koddie style, but I don't think his comic ideas are exactly kid-friendly. At least that's the idea I got when he described his body-switch story idea where one of the switched characters uses the other's body to masturbate.

>koddie
*kiddie

pan never said he wanted to make a kid's cartoon, did he?

Doesn't he want to adapt his comic into an animated show or does he have a different idea for that? Even if he removed the adult material I can't see any kid being interested in watching Loki irl because it doesn't really have a fun concept for them and the humor would probably go way over their head.

Goddamn, you phoneposted that? I'm legit impressed. I'd love to see how you work on a keyboard.

He seemed upset when fans didn't let him know about the CN "pitch me a show" deal so I assumed he wanted to make a cartoon for them.

haven't read it but they look too much like mascots which doesn't always translate well into any sort of story focused work

Or he just wanted to pitch any other idea he might have had. Idea guys don't typically just have one idea.

Any videos you recommend on writing/storytelling?

I read that last part as non euclidean dildo

ok pan

Dude needs Loomis in his life.

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I keep up with it

We all need Loomis in our lives, though. No fair.

I laughed

One of my favourite podcasts constantly reference the Halloween films and before I saw one I imagined all their references to the "Loomis" character had something to do with the artist.

I never thought of it till now and I don't think the comic is that great anymore.

Nah I clean my dick and it didn't take a bitch to make me into a better person.

What are you, the gay spawn of Lovecraft and Freud?

I'm kind of conflicted about Pan's designs. A lot of them are just garish and look like someone trying to badly imitate Picasso but some of them are kind of interesting. He has also been improving over time so I can see him possibly refining them to the point they actually look good at some point in the future. His redsign for Loki for instance is a huge improvement over what he looks like in OP's pic.

I liked the part at the convention with all the in-jokes in it

Once it left the convention it turned into dragonball shit I didn't care about

His style looks really tryhard and that sketch in the top right is laughable.

Well yeah, but at least it's an improvement.

Same

I got what he was trying to do there because it was basically a comic version of his videos

It loses cohesion after that

It's not better, it's bad in a slightly different way than last time.

Not really, just looks fuglier and less visually striking. Loki looked cool from the side but now he just looks like Boss Nass.

I like Pan’s art, but I don’t think it really works in terms of the TV budget I can assume he’s wanting it to eventually. It’s stylized and I respect that, but I think his characters need a bit more work.

I know who that is. Decent videos, shit personality
That comic is fucking awful btw

>Pan could be in this very thread right now.