Abortion thoughts

abortion thoughts
I hopefully will never be raped and impregnated so I really don't care about abortions because I'm abstinent
Anyway, I'm really confused about why liberals say it's the woman's choice when the baby is 50% the man's. If the fetus (the fucking baby) is aborted and he didn't want it aborted, he loses. If the child is delivered and he didn't want the kid, he's stuck with a child for the rest of his life even if he chooses not to sign the birth certificate. His child is out there.

I dunno. It makes me mad. Thoughts?

>I hopefully will never be raped and impregnated
lmao maybe if you pass that boipussy this way we can try bb
email?

>the baby is 50% the man's

dont post this shit

>I hopefully will never be raped and impregnated

tits or gtfo

I'm confused as to why feminists always spout "my body my choice."

Nothing removed from the woman is technically part of her body. A fetus is a separate entity apart from the woman.

I'm female but tits or gtfo doesn't apply here because I'm putting my opinion out there as a conservative woman.

(((they))) don't view the child as something human, with rights.

i think they'd view it as they would view the knife stuck into the victim of a knife attack. yes, the knife belongs to the attacker, but it's the woman's right to remove it from her body.

Who needs tips with those digits?

the baby is 100% womans. until its out of the uterus it's definitely 100% the womans and she should be allowed to kill it if she pleases.

lmao

Fucking who

> Implying any women would ever lurk in here
nice try

>the baby is 100% womans
what's the reasoning here?
because of its location?

Fuck off, you didn't have to include your sex. I do agree that the baby is 50% the mans to he should have a say though. I think the argument is since it's "her body" it should be "her rules". The problem is it isn't since the decision should be equally his if there is any decision at all.

Children should not be conceived out of wedlock. Period.

The child isn't 100 percent woman's, not 100 percent man's, and not 50/50. It is its own person from the very beginning. And it's the duty and obligation of both parents to raise it and set it on its own path, regardless of personal desire.

At the very least, should abortion be legal, you should be able to opt out of parenthood. That would make things slightly fairer, although still biased in favour of the woman.

>Thoughts?

I think if we make abortion 100% illegal than the man needs to have "reproductive rights" as well. She can't get an abortion if he vetoes it. And she can't hold him financially responsible if he signs a waiver or something. Although this isn't a good thing because I think if the man doesn't want to get a girl preggers he needs to keep his dick in this pants. However, it's a necessary thing to prevent predator pregnancies with women wanting to rope a man into financial commitment to HER through pregnancy.

I had a friend who had to get the snip because he had a girlfriend who was trying to take his sperm, when he came outside her or somewhere else and try to impregnate herself.

Women who were raped would be exempt from this sign-off rule but they'd have gotten a rape kit and reported the rape previously.

Its sad, but men are so stupid and easily tricked with beautiful women, so whatever. You deserve it.

>And it's the duty and obligation of both parents to raise it and set it on its own path, regardless of personal desire.

That's what I'm saying here about the waiver. Maybe it's a thing only in the case of predatory pregnancies. The man can say "I didn't intend to get this woman pregnant but she forced it on me somehow" and be exempt.

HOWEVER this doesn't apply in normal, healthy sex situations.

I don't know, it's complicated.

in that case it is 0% the man's and he is under no obligation to provide for it against his will

Seriously though, who is this fluid druid?

THIS is an acceptable Samus cosplayer

>this is what feminists actually believe

Eh, I dunno

How about

-If they're married, it's 50/50 and they both have to agree to abort it.
-If they're unmarried, the woman and abortion doctor have to hear out the father, but woman gets final say.
-If it's rape it's 100% woman's choice to do whatever.

This is assuming that life doesn't begin at conception and abortion is morally ok. Which is something I don't know the answer to.

No, why should the father be stuck with a child he doesn't want in the world?
What if he wants it?
It's not fair.
desu women shouldn't be getting pregnant out of wedlock.

Our society needs abortion to remain legal and accessible to low income urban residents.
If America had 70 million blacks our society would fail. Our cities would be impossible to police, our murder rate would be several times higher, property crime, rape, violent crime of all type would be higher.
Culling their numbers is an absolute necessity.

The MGTOW issues of abortion you raise are a statistical nonissue. If whites were raised to be morally upstanding and wholesome this hypothetical situation would almost never come to pass.

The argument that carrying the fetus is their choice, not that the fetus is part of their body.
They rationalize terminating the life by telling themselves that a fetus isn't really alive.

Sheeeeit, I had the exact same thought when I saw her

Well it is my body though.
The doctors basically removes just the lump of cells from the walls of the womb. Good luck surviving on it's on. Maybe you stick it up your ass and let it try growing there.

Towards responsibility:
If he doesn't want the child and he'd cover half of the abortion bill he shouldn't have to pay for it, regardless whether or not she decides to keep it.

>No, why should the father be stuck with a child he doesn't want in the world?

Then he should ignore the child and not be required to pay any child support.

>What if he wants it?

Then he should have sex with a girl who wants to have it?

That guy is really fit. He must work out.

In that case, the baby is 0% the man's and he does not need to pay anything to the woman.

See how that works?

No, actually: you don't understand taking responsibility?

This is reasonable I think. The father should be given consideration because sometimes men want to have children, but we obviously can't carry a child in our own bodies.

Maybe financial compensation would be involved? If she doesn't want it, but he does, she can carry it to term but he has to basically take care of her while she does, either through money or helping pay the medical expenses and her food/living expenses while she's pregnant?

I feel that would be abused though.

abortion should be legal only in cases of medical complications that threaten the life of the mother or if the fetus is a product of rape

everything else is murder
if you don't want babies, use birth control

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>the baby is 50% the man's
Sex takes 10 minutes.
Labour takes 8 hours.
So even if you don't include the amount of time of pregnancy, the baby is less than 1% the man's.

She's a femlet though (5'0" at most).

50% of the genetic material of a baby comes from the male

therefore 50% of the baby is the man's

as for your 8 hour labor, 9 month pregnancy, blame millions of years of evolution

if we had evolved from lizards, you'd just lay an egg and be done with it

Similarly we can say male ejaculation takes seconds.
Pushing a baby out of your vag takes 30 minutes.

It is really not that difficult to understand. From conception to birth a woman has to carry a parasitic lifeform in her body for 9 months which heavily influences her mental and physical health. So speaking of 50% is non-sense already.
I think that if the woman does not want the child, she is completely justified to abort it, because:
1.) She is risking her health or even her life due to complication in all of it.
2. ) If she gives birth to a child she did not want in the first place the development of said child is questionable at best.
At the same time if abortion is not prohibited a man should not be forced to pay for it, just because the woman wanted to keep it, contraception is the responsibillity of both sexual partners and some dumb mistake should not ruin the lives of 3 human beings.
If this probably mentally unstable woman wants to keep a fatherless child, she can pay for her toy herself.
It is a pretty easy business imo. you can do whatever the fuck you want to your still undeveloped embryo, I am not suppossed to pay for it. Deal? Deal.

Concerning this whole "your child is out there" thing, this is just something about feelings and I do not do feels.

>if we had evolved from lizards, you'd just lay an egg and be done with it
since that's not the case, time is a factor.

one thing I will say, though, considering the fact that the baby is mostly hers,

THE MAN SHOULD HAVE NO OBLIGATION OF CHILD SUPPORT.

it doesn't make any sense to claim otherwise.

The whole child support and abortion prohibition is a jew scheme anyway to provide more slaves for the system.

and cleaning the cat piss smell out of your apartment is going to take a lifetime

In fact OP usually the abortion decision is made by both (happened to me when I was 20). My gf and I talked a lot, we also consulted some psychologist and gynaecologist and both talked to our parents too.

It's only in the super retarded leftists mind (especially feminists) that the abortion is a women only thing and that women had to face it alone (again these people are mentally ill).

The man can vanish of the life of the fetus anytime he wants.
The women "can't".
So, they want to make sure there's a socially accepted (and medically safe) way of runaway.
Not to mention the complications of pregnancy, and of rising a baby in today's society.
Of course is easier to just use condoms or take the pill, but if you've failed to do any of those properly I doubt you can rise a human being. (not including the cases when they are actually looking for it ofc)

>its just a fetus, not a life

>abstinent
>bait picture of photoshop'd babe
>probably 250 pound retard trying to have a laugh because his life is so fucking small