It's the charm. The charm and excitement of Marvel is gone. Everything feels hollow, cheap, and synergized. Rarely do we get moments like pic related, moments that actually make you feel emotions rather than making you feel like you're going through the motions. Gone are your favorite heroes and, if you're lucky, replaced by new bland and forgettable legacy characters.
I'm a diehard comic reader and I can't even get excited for anything on the publisher's line, the video games are either non-existent or forced to only use MCU character, so far everything but Agents of SHIELD has sucked television wise, and the films, well starting to break free from their mold, still all feel the same and are completely predictable. It feels like there's no passion
Leo Long
peter told jj he's spider-man? what issue?
Jace Howard
Zdarsky's "The Spectacular Man-Child".
James Foster
do they kiss afterwards
Henry Turner
Peter acts more like an adult in Peter Parker than he has in a decade
Cameron Morales
>next event >Gwenpool use sword and undo all shit that Marvel done in recent years
Ryder Green
You don't moments like this at DC either.
ur dumb
Jackson Mitchell
Nigga what?
Chase Jackson
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Michael Ramirez
Marvel is just reaping what they sowed.
They believed that a world without heroes, only assholes, would be more interesting? Well, now they have it.
Nathan Adams
>OP doesn't mention DC >no one else mentions DC >REE DC SUCKS
Ryder Gutierrez
You're right, DC is emotionless trash too.
Samuel Cook
Nigga this was last week.
Daniel Edwards
And when was the last moment like this? That's my point
Gabriel Harris
That image feels really weird. It's basically 40's Superman wearing the modern costume.
Daniel King
>And when was the last moment like this? Last week, like he said.
Matthew Collins
Yeah for one issue so far. Did you read the previous issues? They were as bad or worse than Slott's take.
Charles Thomas
I think he was still pretty manchild-y doing his Zdarskysms though this was the least bad so far.
Him going OCTOPUS TOOK OVER MY BEAUTIFUL BODY! when he could already tell Jameson was losing it for instance.
Colton Martin
Yes, I read everything. He still acts more mature than he does in Slott's book. Christ, why can you not read?
Samuel Ward
I actually thought that issue was really crap and failed to connect to its emotional highs but YMMV I guess.
Joshua Morales
>so far everything but Agents of SHIELD has sucked television wise
You're saying Agents of Shit was good, but Daredevil sucked, so this post cab be safely disposed of in the nearest garbage bin.
William Morgan
>implying Daredevil season two was good No.
Oliver Bell
Nobody mentioned season 2 but you, and either way it was still better than AoS.
Gavin Wood
This. Marvel is finished.
Jace Young
>but Daredevil sucked You brought up Daredevil season two by bringing up Daredevil. You didn't specify season 2 which means you're talking about it as a whole. And no, Daredevil as a whole is not better than Agents of Shield as a whole.
Chase Johnson
Sometimes Marvel can surprise you.
Jaxson Long
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William Diaz
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Ethan Garcia
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Robert Torres
That's like saying a toddler acts more mature than an infant
Dominic Wright
Well, I called it out year ago of how S.J.W would ruin everything you loved...have fun with this shight.
Liam Walker
>Ellis C'Mon son, he's by far their best writer and the only British invasion guy still doing work for them
Angel Robinson
>the video games are either non-existent or forced to only use MCU character mugga Lego Marvel 2 just came out today and has a fuck-ton of obscure comic characters making their first vidya debut
Matthew Sanders
So then we're in agreement that there is a difference, good
Christian Allen
Oh yeah.
Hunter Adams
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Kayden Bailey
Great issue.
Jacob Harris
>Gwenpool fixes the Marvel Universe
Elijah Lopez
What was going on with Doom before this? I don't read comics other than those storytimed here sometimes. I know Gwen directly attacked his character arc, but I don't know what that arc was to begin with.
Nathaniel Murphy
>YMMV Kill yourself, worthless TVTropes autist.
Angel Allen
wtf
Christopher Robinson
And yet NONE of them are from the X-Men or F4 franchises.
Kevin Hall
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Jaxson Rodriguez
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Blake Russell
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Josiah Cruz
obviously this is the most emotional moment of the year.
Mason Cooper
>war criminal in a conflict that didn't need to happen >hero
Christian Ramirez
THIS.
Parker Williams
>moving the goalpost
Ayden Green
Doom was doing a whole redemption arc and was trying to prove himself as a superhero by becoming the new Iron Man after Tony went into a coma.
Parker Perry
batman signs his cape anyways.
china isn't working on a fish man... poor aquaman
Nathan King
night light and sighborg
kek
Jeremiah Roberts
Wait, did he lie about the bomb and just kill him, because he is mad? The drawing is unclear.
Cooper Cruz
Could you storytime? what happened to the boy?
Lincoln Harris
The entire series revolves around the fact that Karnak is a villain cloaked in self-delusion and ego.
Jason Nguyen
>I burned all these kids >TRUE AMERICAN HERO
What did America mean by this?
Zachary Allen
Well that sounds intriguing. I expect the book bombed hard ??
Matthew Evans
Usual Warren Ellis delays, 6 issues published in the span of 18 months.
Angel Martinez
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Adrian Green
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Parker Diaz
she finally got the hug she always wanted.
Josiah Adams
>I masturbate to revisionist history, where my fellow countryman didn't rape and pillage
I bet you also think the Holocaust is a fun topic. Wait, forgot where i am.
Jason James
Beautiful, right?
Nicholas Allen
I love how, even in Bizarro's description, Batman is still Batman.
Ian White
Oh god, i just remembered Ellis wrote Supergod. Do i even want to read this?
Ryder Clark
>shark >leaping out of the water >with arms >with dyed red mohawk >heart tattoo >dual-wielding Uzis
WAT.
Ryan Hughes
RHATO is full of feels when Bizarro's concerned. Kommandi Challenge is a project DC has going where every issue is helmed by another writer and artist. Whatever plot the issue before followed, the next has to continue that story.
Brayden James
>he doesn't believe every member of the US military is a sadistic rapist, this must mean he's a holocaust denier!
Nicholas Sanchez
It's not the same philosophy as Supergod if that's what you're asking. If anything it's closer to a deconstruction of Ellis' Avatar work.
Angel Adams
Forever Evil making Luthor love his Bizzaro was a great decision.
Asher Cox
>forced to only use MCU character >And yet NONE of them are from the X-Men or F4 franchises. >a moved goalpost >>>>>>
Nolan Rodriguez
>the video games are either non-existent or forced to only use MCU character This is factually incorrect, because plenty of the characters in the game are not MCU characters. The argument presented in the OP didn't say anything about X-Men or FF (not F4 you fucking casual), so it is indeed moving the goalposts.
And it's a failed attempt anyway, because Kang, an FF character who can't be used in the MCU, is the main antagonist of the game.
Josiah Butler
>fight in war, that was itself a warcrime >massive civil casualties
>serve and be automatically treated as hero
Thats some high end logic there.
Brandon Bell
The modern costume is shit.
Jordan Parker
>treated as hero yurop doesn't know shit about (recent) american history the post
Robert Cook
That's good bait
Gabriel James
>ree stop disliking my shitty comics Please, tell me what is good from Marvel right now?
Jose Torres
>he thinks it's bait, that must me he disagrees with every statement in the post! >he doesn't think they're ALL monsters, he must think they're ALL heroes sometimes I forget how stupid a lot of you are.
Ryan Edwards
>posting Johns as a counter Johns is as hollow and vapid a writer as I've ever seen and his stories reflect that. His attempts at emotion come off as completely inauthentic.
In all honesty I don't think I've ever felt any of that level of emotional sincerity from a western comic (at least a western cape comic). Even stuff I really love like Animal Man, the emotion never quite registers for me. I've never seen anything with the emotional sincerity of, say, Sesuji wo Pin because it kind of feels like that idealistic, romantic feeling of creating a comic is dead.
Cooper Bailey
Need trunks and red boots. It looks ike he's wearing footie pajamas.
Kevin Sanchez
His JSA was pretty good same with Aquaman.
Camden Fisher
Does Superman run on hope? Were we mislead into thinking it was the Sun all this time?
Angel Howard
...so was he actually a bomb or did Karnak mean metaphorically or
Carter Fisher
Now *that's* comics.
Nathan Perry
Wait, why would Gwen bring back evil Doom? She was trying to be good, right? She rejected villainy
Kayden Martin
This is mad feels, even if it's ripping off an old Spider-Man moment.
Levi Young
>Pete finds the strength to lift the debreis by thinking about all the people depending on him >Eddie lays down and dies
kek
Justin Jackson
But Eddie's going to fight Kraven again next issue.
Carter Green
Because she wants to matter in-universe and wants to be established as a good guy, to reduce risk of death-by-plot or cancellation.
Decided best way to do that was to defeat the most villainy villain (Doom). She's mad Doom isn't a villainy villain anymore.
Bentley Kelly
...So she became a villain anyway, by virtue of being fucking stupid?
Eli Wilson
is..this comic actually this good?
William King
YOU POSTED THE WRONG IMAGE OP BUT DONT WORRY I GOTCHU MAN But seriously, IMO *almost* everything that isn't Ditko or Romita aint canon to me. Fuck what Marvel says
Luke Foster
unless you're either Palmiotti and bullshit your way through or Tom King and just not give a shit
Grayson Davis
Karnak killed the guy and then tried to play it off as the dude exploding on his own rather than it being Karnak murdering him in a fit of rage.
Jason Taylor
if this doesn't say comics I don't know what does
Kevin Murphy
And yet, when something good like Runaways come out, cancellation numbers at issue #2. Good job, Sup Forums.
Jace Morales
Where can I read up on that? Not really familiar with the US history.
Owen Moore
Blame Comic fans.
Wyatt Morales
>Tumblraways >good
Brandon Gray
>tfw you summon the Ghost of Doom Past to do battle gnarly