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Thanks OP

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Those costumes are ridiculously on the nose.

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Brilliant. Neurophysiologist.
revolutionized prosthetics, transplants and more.

Somehow cant afford health care, and needs to bum off government aide for insurance.

communism folks.

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>memeware

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WOW, THIS IS REALLY SUBTLE.

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Astro City has never been particularly subtle

You are now leaving Astro City.

Please drive carefully.

This is the shittiest, most biased, and exaggerated comparison to real-world politics I've ever seen

> But not for you or your dead mom.

And it makes your average Marvel comic look like theyre written by radical rightwingers.

Oh God, I knew Astro City would get into the whole Syrian refugee crisis after a while. Serious question, is anyone even ALLOWED to say that refugees are anything but angels? How about all the raping that happened in Cologne?

astro city is comfy. Thanks OP!

#resist Drumpf

>on today's episode of Astro City, readers are surprised to learn that Busiek is liberal

Sometimes, I wish there were more conservative comics. I mean, manga's basically 100% conservative and Alt-Hero looks like a shitshow, but I'm completely opposed to refugees.

there's Divided States of Hysteria.

But that is also shit.

This goes way beyond merely being liberal.

Is that right wing? I thought it was just plain garbage.

not really
>refugees
>oil pipeline stand-in
>BLM which even makes a point to show the cops are good people too
>opposing corrupt corporations
>voting rights

>Serious question, is anyone even ALLOWED to say that refugees are anything but angels?
The issue said nothing about the refuges, in fact they have a single dialogue-less panel in the entire issue.

What surprises me is that generally, the bad guys don't seem to have many superhumans. I kind of want to see BLM crushed by metahuman police officers, or anti-refugee protestors using their powers to sink boats / send them home.

So imaginary complaint then?

Anarchist-communist is not liberal.

Cops are literally protecting people. why aren't they getting these magic powers exactly?

Mobs of people, are not super nice fun people. Mobs are mobs. people turn into opportunistic assholes in mobs devoid of any personal responsibility. this is even more true for assholes who don't even believe in individual rights and responsibility in the first place.

when you get your magic powers to defend the others in the mob, who just threw a brick at a cop or civilian wearing a maga hat. do your powers turn off the instant you smash that facists face in with superpowers, and 30 people jump on them and kick them to death?

This is pretty dumb. its full on hippie.

>Cops are literally protecting people. why aren't they getting these magic powers exactly?
did you read the comic?

the book didn't claim refugees are good or bad either way and just stated they were at the center of an utter clusterfuck of interstellar proportions.

>Cops are literally protecting people. why aren't they getting these magic powers exactly?
They are, see:

yea but ignore that in favor of just not reading the comic and claiming something else

there is literally an entire page trying to state that cops are the good guys too.

Yeah, but the 'good' Resistors are defending them against the 'bad' Earth First fighters. Look at the Earth First guys, they look obviously evil.

>Cops are literally protecting people. why aren't they getting these magic powers exactly?

Maybe the problem isn't the book but your own beliefs giving you blindspots while reading?

yes. And? The Earth First Fighters are stated to be a white nationalist splinter group spreading out into targetting aliens. The refugees on screen are wearing either rags or hand me down clothes. They aren't armed, they're being escorted by cops to some refugee camp in the mountain.

how exactly are we supposed to view the actions of para-military terrorists in super suits attacking helpless refugees as anything but an act of villainy?

The image of people holding signs defying tyranny speaks to me of madness. Trying to re-image powerlessness as power, desperate acts of violence and hatred as wisdom. If you're truly under tyranny and this "protest" is the best you can do, you are lost.

Its this same imagery I keep seeing, where defeat is victory and desperate violence is solution. You've lost, under the foot, bullet lodged in your head, you didn't win. And the only way you could possibly image out of this at this point, if ever, is your fists. Can these people be considered human?

Even liberals have grown to hate refugees and BLM rioters. The only people who still support either are radical leftists who haven't had to personally deal with either group.

thats a fucking awesome design

Defending the homeland from invaders, obviously. If Earth First was flying into action at Cologne to stop the raping of women, they'd be heroes, right?

that's not what they're doing, though

because refugees are refugees. and no matter how you spin it, ethno nationalism is evil. regardless

cato.org/blog/syrian-refugees-dont-pose-serious-security-threat

youtube.com/watch?v=r9qiCN7CcB8

why would aliens even try to rape human women anyway? Who even cares that some criminal fuckwads raped a bunch of women and why use that for some of the laziest excuses for xenophobia I've ever seen?

Some people are assholes, some like to inflict violence on others, some like to rape. Some of those people will inevitably be refugees, business owners, cops, or whatever.

This book has no obligation to field your political views, it doesn't even make a statement about refugees being good or evil. (never mind two of the earth firsters flying the confederate battleflag. I'm a southernor, lets not mince words here. The country that used that flag was fighting for the right to enslave others. It's not subtle visual shorthand for someone being an asshole.) The refugees are there to get attacked by literal terrorists intent on murdering people already in police custody, who are to be taken to a secluded holding site and kept away from the general populace both for their own safety and the safety of the nation.

there's no ambiguity here.

They're fielding political views by directly alluding the Indians to the Standing Rock protestors and the alien refugees to Syrian refugees. There's nothing wrong about the Confederate battleflag - it's the symbol of a proud heritage, even if the side that bore it with pride and honor went down in defeat.

You also forgot to add, "white southerners weren't the ones enslaving people, they were the one purchasing already enslaved people."

i don't agree with the person you're arguing against but wouldn't someone dislike it because of it how it does a biased, exggerated, and overall shitty comparison

I'm saying it was a different time. Slavery was a-ok.

To real world politics?*

>There's nothing wrong about the Confederate battleflag

i like flags of countries that don't get destroyed and wiped of the earth

yes.. no shit. because the author is an idiot alluding to real world issues in an entirely simplistic, one sided, and childish manner.
They created a complete and total strawman, to make their point of view seem correct, and obvious.

>getting mad at the politics
>not realizing the actual story is about a woman and her dad

>only developed nation in the world without a functional health-care system
Because its not developed. As people become savages, the system dies. I remember only 20 years back, people didn't lock their doors at night, when they were out, or when they went to see their neighbors. Today you need a fence, cameras and an alarm system.

Anons, slavery is bad and you shouldn't use the flag to support it- anyone that does otherwise is a giga nigger.

M90 I was born and raised in Lousiana, the Confederacy existed for the sole reason of continuing the immoral and bluntly backwards practice of chattel slavery. The confederate battleflag and all symbols thereof may be my heritage but that doesn't mean its something that should be displayed with pride.

And yes, the book is fielding political views. The views of the author at least, and likely the artist and publishing company. As is the right of the people who made it. They are under no obligation to field YOUR political views.

secondly moral relativism is horse shit. The Roman Empire created one of the largest impoverished urban classes the world has ever seen because rather than ban the practice of using slaves to farm land bought up by rich slave owners and forcing the people on that land into the cities, where there were no jobs, they continued the practice of slavery for profit. They used this practice to fund wars of conquest until their bureaucracies could no longer keep up with the size of their empire and developed a dependency on foriegn mercenaries who had no loyalty to rome.

Slavery is the bane of an honest civilization and not to be explained away with 'it was a different time.' those who participated in the practice enabled it, and by enabling it they enabled the cultural, and technological stagnation of their own civilization.

any fool who makes excuses for slavery and ethnonationalism is a useful idiot and nothing else.

Somehow cant afford health care, and needs to bum off government aide for insurance.


Before "pre-existing conditions" ( a term invented by the ACA) insurance would often drop you if you got sick

articles.latimes.com/2009/jun/17/business/fi-rescind17

Even with insurance health care still bankrupts people

cnbc.com/id/100840148

20 years ago people locked their doors and feared their neighbors. If you're rich you generally live in a low crime area, if you're poor you can't trust your neighbor. The idea of a honest post war america where a man need fear nothing is simple propaganda.

Hell 'remember better days' is one of the oldest propaganda methods in history.

But post-refugee "crisis" has normalized daily terrorist attacks. It went from every 3 years to hourly in few months.

define terror attacks in this context, and cite your source. Then I'll think about what you said.

no that's a product of the modern news cycle and information technology. We live in the most p[peaceful time in human history but sensationalized news and various political agendas want you terrified of various groups so you're easy to manipulate.

life is better now than it was even 20 years ago in a lot of ways but rather than accept that most people yearn for a better time that never existed.

Post War america was an economic aberration created by a glut of resources and predatory foriegn policy that has since created the current political climate. The powers that be destabilized the middle east to profit off of pliant puppet rulers.

Go figure, you eliminate all the reasonable arabs and breed for crazy violent goatfuckers you create a real shithole in the middle east.

The point where only your rich people can afford low crime areas, means you were never in developed country.

Next time...

your bullshit memories are not suitable evidence for you to propose social policy. besides, crime is actually down in the USA.

assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2016/11/16114133/FT_16.11.16_crime_trend.png

huh?

ever heard of the IRA, and what life was like in certain parts of Britain back then?

people think that terrorism right now in the west is way worse than it ever has been anywhere and that's really untrue

IMO this is partly because the USA got off comparatively scot-free in WWII and the Cold War; we never were invaded, and we did a lot of proxy war fighting so we as a nation don't really know what it's like to have that level of conflict on our own soil

shit, suicide bombings in afghanistan-which are terror attacks-kill dozens every few days or something, but that barely breaks the news here if ever

>Post War america was an economic aberration created by a glut of resources and predatory foriegn policy that has since created the current political climate. The powers that be destabilized the middle east to profit off of pliant puppet rulers.
>Go figure, you eliminate all the reasonable arabs and breed for crazy violent goatfuckers you create a real shithole in the middle east.


This. Don't overthrow governments and instate dictators at the behest of oil companies and maybe people will hate us less and attack us less.

people think that terrorism right now in the west is way worse than it ever has been anywhere and that's really untrue

I would argue that it is worse now in a number of ways. Mainly in that we've ( the USA) have been "at war" (technically) longer than at any other point in us history and that presents unique challenges.

you know white people commit rape too, right

>next time:
>We are officially out of ideas!

But not en masse, and not in this decade. Muslims are a throwback.

>We live in the most peaceful time in human history but sensationalized news and various political agendas want you terrified of various groups so you're easy to manipulate.

And what makes this "Peaceful time" NOT a product of sensationalized and agenda driven manipulation? If all the advancements in science and economy of the past 20 years were taken away from you, could you still say that everything is better now?

>if all the things that made things better were taken away, would things still be better?

Wow skippy, its like penicillin, effective birth control, information technology, advances in medical technology and so on may life worth living!

>If all the advancements in science and economy of the past 20 years were taken away from you, could you still say that everything is better now?

"If all the things that make life better, like being healthier, having access to more education, more access to food, communication, and travel were gone would things be better?"

Gee, I guess not. The fuck are you on about? Yeah I guess if we did create an imaginary world where are the things that have improved didn't improve we would be worse off. What a revelation!

By that logic, every iPhone release makes the world a better place.

Astro city was the first comic series I ever read back in the 90s. Now, I have nothing left to enjoy. So, goodbye Sup Forums I am now done with the internet. See you at the Civil War.

Maybe the comic didn't actually get worse. Maybe you did.

no by that logic every advancement on pharmacological technology, surgery techiniques, automation, logistics, communication, and other technologies make the world a better place.

Technology has a net impact on cultural advancement, the better we were able to keep ourselves healthy, safe, and productive the better things are.

Take away the technologies that allow this and yes, life will be worse.

Go peddle your insecurity elsewhere.

>pretending you'll do anything but lie in bed as a miserable forever alone.

How will we see you if you won't leave the house?

Look, when the argument is that things have gone to shit and you say Nuh-uh and point at your newest iPhone, what fucking point are you making?