Tell me in 3 seconds why you don't support a system that will be necessary in a futuristic transhumanist, automated-labour society. Tell me why you don't support a system that actually acts more in the long-term and cares about the environment, unlike capitalism?
>but muh human nature
>but it always fails :-----D
Not an argument.
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i've realized that technological progress and humanity are inherently tied to each other, and as a result, when robots take over everything and scarcity is no longer a fear, communism will finally prevail
capitalism is going to fall within the next 100 years
fucking commies, get the fuck out of my board. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Those that lead the communist revolt become the new monarchy.
>will be necessary in a futuristic transhumanist, automated-labour society.
you got my interest OP, go on
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Kill yourself
>>but it always fails :-----D
>Not an argument.
That's actually a very good argument against communism/socialism.
Tribalism is superior. Transhumanism wont be virtuous as long as faceberg owns it.
Because we're not at the point where humans don't have to work
Socialism has largely been successful, though. See France and Scandinavian countries.
>tfw you think the masses will have access to trans-human technology
You're an idiot.
France is a good example of how not to lead a country.
>transhumanist
>automated-labour
That is not communism you bourgeoisie liberal shit. Go fuck yourself, the main goal of communism is to give political and economic control of the state to the working class. Any self-proclaimed communist who doesn't support Trump has been poisoned by the (((intelligentsia)). MAGA.
I'll kill every single one of you transhumanist faggots on the day of the plug.
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France is a basketcase. It only seems good to you because you live in a failed state.
Scandinavia has a market economy.
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> pic
>lets in millions of rapefugees
>successful
What does communism look like once implemented? Don't say "seize the means of production" bullshit. What would a car manufacturing plant look like? Whose the boss, what happens to the profits, how much does everyone get paid?
Because Fuck you dipshit cuck
You better not be late to the party because there could be just some transformer fires for the keks.
>Tell me in 3 seconds why you don't support a system that will be necessary in a futuristic transhumanist, automated-labour society.
Because we don't live in a transhumanist, automated-labour society, but in a society with scarce resources which need to be efficiently allocated.
And the best system to allocate resources in the most efficient way possible is free market capitalism.
>inb4 some strawman about globalism.
International trade =/= free market capitalism. You can have free market capitalism within your country and border tariffs to protect your home industries. That was how the US economy was run until ww2.
Because of (((bolshevikes)))
I wasn't born a Jew.
I want to make money (for myself) and live my own life. I don't want to make money for a political figure head who already has more money than me, or make the world better when I'm not going to be alive. No one in the past tried to make the world better for other people or people they didn't know, so why would I want to do that now?
>implying the entire world would care enough to be in a conspiracy against Russia.
People are not equal. Beople form hierarchies in their societies, it's their nature. That's the main reason.
Second reason it that it is a jewish tale that killed too much of my people for me to ever support it.
>communism
>caring for environment
>ever
ROFL, nice one Svedka
Communism believe that border shouldn't exist so basically Swedes are the same as Argies. According to Communism, we belong to the same people and we have the same culture since borders are "capitalist inventions".
Only retards agreed with that.
I'm largely talking about economic and social liberalism (welfare state).
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>He thinks that USSR was socialist and not state capitalist
No.
Yeah because exploiting the poor and non-privileged is much more virtuous
Yah, but that's not a reason to call communism is a pipe dream. As we near the technological singularity, we must answer with a reasonable system that can accomodate for all of humanity. You can't do that with capitalism because the bourgeois will monopolise the means of the production leading to a catastrophically unequal society.
Yes I know that capitalism has worked, but it's also very flawed as it requires exploiting the bottom and not caring a whim about the long-term effects it has. That's why with the accelerating advance of technology, there'll be an opportunity for us to abolish the exploitative nature of capitalism and implement something better because we'll have the capability to do so.
France and Scandinavia are capitalist.
Having healthcare and welfare programs doesn't make you a socialist. Even China is more socialist than those countries.
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>capitalism = voluntary labor
>communism = forced labor
Also read The Gulag Archipelago and see how "great" Communism is.
trump will lose :,(
Trump won
Socialism/communism will leave you with tones of shit and no toilet paper.
>If my science fiction utopia comes into being, my political utopia will magically occur!
>implying
Who owns the media in every western country?.
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>Lenin
>Capitalist
The guy is pretty much as important as Marx.
I have no idea what you're talking about. However, I'm a needy but not so able person, so give me my free shit.
I will support it once we, humanity, attain a post-scarcity society.
Until then it is not a stable or functional system for anything beyond a few thousand people.
Communism will only function with a system of governance that eliminates official government and the need for such.
Deal with it.
>le ebin Bolsjevism = Communism meme
>this will be really great in the distant future guys
okay well talk then i guess
Morocco isn't a failed state, either. We're in deep shit, but we usually run on a small current-account surplus.
I think it was obvious I'm not taking about full-on socialism in the same vein people don't call the Soviet Union state capitalist.
technological progress is cyclical not linear. commies btfo
>a system that actually acts more in the long-term and cares about the environment, unlike capitalism?
NOT AN ARGUMENT
Nice Hitler digits, nigger.
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Thanks senpai
We wuz mediterraneans n shit
Watching Richard Wolff's youtube right now, interesting af
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>ignores the points that show how stupid his theory is
>France
>socialism
>sucessful
Welfare grabbing sandniggers like your maghrebians friends are why socialism cant work in France
Capitalism=globalism and degeneracy
it's the ultimate subversion.
Juche and stalinism are the ultimate redpills
>communism can work guys, but only robots can do it.
Then wtf was the point of communism if humans couldn't maintain it??
>actually using a picture with a quote on it as an argument
I visited Morocco once.
It was pretty beautiful desu, nice architecture and shit, met an incredibly nice guy. Except all the men kept staring at my mother like animals
Communism assumes people are perfect and not lazy or will not try to exploit the system.
It's why is fails every time.
Are there any countries that are still communist?
>NK
Dictator
>China
Partially democratic
here's my argument:
Because we're not in a futuristic transhumanist, automated-labour society.
Cuba's the closest.
Soviets proved communism wrong.
>thanks ruskies you took the bullet for us
Communists are so fucking delusional if they think it can ever work out
>DDR
>good thing
Are you fucking kidding me you fucking niggerloving commie piece of shit? I hope you fucking die of cancer you disgusting swedish human waste
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>automated labor patch
Not all the labor is automated yet, can we fucking wait at least until it's a problem? Until then communism is a fail and will always be a fail.
>partially democratic
power is still centralized in China. It's very much communist in principle; no system of checks and balances.
Soviet Russia was much better for its citizens than post Soviet collapse Russia.
>>but it always fails :-----D
>Not an argument.
Of course it is. Name a successful communist country.
>inb4 ukraine/catalonia
>futuristic transhumanist
>automated labor
two things a control economy and a communist government can't dream to produce. Standards of living can only increase through Capitalism, there is no other reason but wealth and survival for people to continue inventing and innovating
>East Germany
>""""good""""
Clearly born after the wall fell
DDR didn't have niggers and other degenerates
I want the transhumanist, automated-labour future to be a cool cyberpunk dystopia one and not as fucking gay as all outdoors.
>legitimate argument
>legitimate criticism
NOT AN ARGUMENT :----D
People can fly by jumping out of a window
>but muh gravity
NOT AN ARGUMENT
this. it was nazis 2.0
communistic Nationalistic dictatorship>>>>>>>Degenerate multiculural globalist banker puppet state
if you're mentioning catalonia, I'm mentioning Rojava. Been very successful for like 4 years now, despite great practical challenges.
SWEDEN YES
>but muh human nature
>but it always fails
>dismissing the two strongest arguments against communism in the first post
lol
Because I enjoy eating.
Take it from my dead 90 grandfather:communism doesn't work with people, there will always be someone to steal or greed for power even though they all agreed not to
>spying on people fucking because "they might be enemies of the state"
>not degenerate
Oh Swedistan, you kinky bastard
Le trou de la sécu est en train de se reboucher, et la couverture sociale française est l'une des choses qui a permis au pays de sortir relativement indemne de la crise de 2008.
Sois-en fier.
Yep, there's a lot of shitheads who behave like that, unfortunately. It's slowly starting to change, but eh.
>communist
>dictatorship
Would you make up your fucking mind you autistic snowarab?
Well obviously. But you have said exactly what needs to be said: it will happen eventually.
Right now we need to focus on nationalism and important shit. Circlejerking about communism only gets you so far.
This. The eternal Hebrew has been behind communism since day one. That alone is enough for me to oppose it.
hey guys the state will wither away after we give it total control of everything!
I'll support communism when I know longer see the need for medical, technological and scientific progress.
There will never be equality. Simply ban automation.
Didn't know about that. Sure better than ISIS.
It doesn't seem that communist tho.
>Private property and entrepreneurship are protected under the principle of "ownership by use", although accountable to the democratic will of locally organized councils. Dr. Dara Kurdaxi, a Rojavan economist, has said that: "The method in Rojava is not so much against private property, but rather has the goal of putting private property in the service of all the peoples who live in Rojava."
And culture of critique to see the "men" behind the curtain
thats the only way to ensure that globalist subversives won't get in power
Yeah it's not really communist, but it's a very fruitful and interesting leftist project that we should all support. Inspired more by Murray Bookchin than Marx.
fuck Antifa.