Ok I don’t know what the fuck this shit is but it definitely isn’t a fucking Punisher show

Ok I don’t know what the fuck this shit is but it definitely isn’t a fucking Punisher show.

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What's wrong with it? He didn't kill enough minorities for you? Maybe it needed more women to throw against windows. Don't worry, we still have all those meme pages to look at though!

I'm only on episode 9 but as good as Bernthal is, I still think Thomas Jane is the best Punisher.

>geez how dare he expect a Punisher show

Its more "Frank Castle and David Lieberman" The show, I still like it though.

Fan edit when?

Fucking shitty show, only better than Iron Fisted and Inhumane

SO HE IS supposed to be killing minorities then? Right? To hell with the spooks using American corpses to smuggle heroin into the US, I NEED MY BEANER BRAINS.

we already covered that plot and seemingly resolved it in Daredevil season 2, though

Considering mexicans are the reason why the drug problem is as bad as it is....

That's literally not true, the rogue CIA element was only introduced in this show. In DDs2 we think it was just a police sting that turned into a mob war. They only hint to the greater picture was the 'Kandahar' line from Mr. Crabs.

Next season it'll turn out that there was a plot behind a plot. It was Hydra all along.

>spooks using American corpses to smuggle heroin into the US
literally the Blacksmith plot

the fact remains that Punisher was just retreading the origin story after DD ended with Frank ready to start his war

And the show starts with him sniping a cartel boss from our side of the border, so what's the problem?

Even at the end of the Blacksmit plot they were throwing hits that it's all apart or something bigger, like the aforementioned 'Kandahar' stuff. They never intended for that to be the end.

Y'know I love how both Sup Forums and tumblr are TRIGGERED by this show. Y'see thats the MARK of quality television.

Killing one cartel boss in a montage at the beginning of the first episode is not the same as dedicating a season to waging war against the cartels.

No press is bad press, as they say. Its divisive to be sure.

You'fe in a dreamland if you expexted that show right out the gate, desu.

I agree, and I actually enjoyed the series.

Agreed. Bernthal has the grit, but Thomas brought the full package.

Cartels smuggling drugs into America is a much more realistic issue

>breaking bad and better call saul can include mob wars and cartel leader struggles
>punisher show can't
Fuck you netflix. This was the one fucking show I was waiting for ever since DDS2 flopped, and now it's been fucked.

Didn't even bother checking it out, the trailer literally only showed him killing army guys and cia faggots. How fucking stupid do you need to be to fuck up the punisher?

Kill yourself, you disgusting bag of shit. Dickheads like you are the reason we can't have a FICTIONAL show be good.

he expected the Punisher to actually kill criminals and low life scum
how preposterous

I feel like mosts stuff called after an iconic character are never about said character. Spider-Man comics are no longer about Spider-Man but some feminist bitch called mocking bird that saves spiderman while humiliating him at every chance she gets, batman is about a strong and "empowered" feminist catwoman that saves batman, darth vader is about a younger inventor girl ... etc and now Punisher is about a Muslim women and veterans suffering ptsd
it´s just sjw propaganda ruining it´s course

>I don't read the comics I like to whine about
We get it.

It's not rocket science. People wanted a series with Frank Franking crime families and taking down low level thugs, not CIA government conspiracy shit. Essentially The Punisher video game, which had a better plot

ok 5 episode series
First Episode is just a big flash back of him going to war, watching his family die and him becoming the punisher
Second Episode is just about Frank killing off wanna be rapper gangbangers in the hood
Third Episode is about him killing russian weapon smugglers at the new york harbor
Fourth Episode is about him cleaning out a Japanese gang´s headquarter
Fifth Episode he crashes a mobster wedding and turns the villa red

there I just wrote a better punisher series

yes
niggers are the biggest criminals

>I´m an average Sup Forumsmblr soyboy who white knights when ever somebody dares to call out the negative effect sjw have on comics
we get it.

No, its just preposterous to exect a whole show deticated to that. No arching story, no plot. just ever episode is like a random MGS5 mission.

>Frank drops in
>'Where I go Micro?'
>'Overthere, Frank'
>so Frank goes there and shoots some guys
>roll credits

Its just not realistic to expect this as an entire show.

>Frank gives up on the war
literally dropped the show at that point
one of the things that makes Frank so compeling is that he doesnt give up, there have been many oppertunities for him to get out of the live but he always gave it the cold shoulder, Frank should be unapolagetic in what he does

>soyboy
Don't out yourself that quickly, give people time to bite. Also, try reading comics next time you post on Sup Forums.

It's not, because there have been endless comics dedicated to that. Not that you'd know about that, wouldn't you?

where was he wrong? everything he said does happen in those franchises. I think you are just an sjw

Its not like the punishers never gone after white collar crime or army dudes b4 guys.

Casuals

You are seriously fucking retarded, I can't believe your wrangler lets you on the internet.

soyboy detected

How is Spectacular Spider-Man about Mockingbird? How is Detective Comics about Catwoman? No, those franchises are not under attack. Do you read comics?

thats literally how Punishers comics are put together
Episodic tv is not that hard
and even if they had to use a overarching story, why not use something related to actuall street crime? human trafficking? or hell bring in the mob wives from that MAX arc that spend the entire season plotting how to kill Frank

people like you are way nobody buys comics anymore

yes he went after them trough years of fighting street thugs first
making Punisher fight CIA/Goverment mooks in his first season is like making Superman fight Doomsdat in the first movie

I guess you don´t read comics because both of them have only been about said female characters. last two batman stories were all about Selina saving batman form talia and Spdierman has been all about Mocking Bird busting spidermans balls since forever.

I was talking about Spectacular Spider-Man, not Amazing, and Detective Comics, not Batman. Thanks for outing yourself as a non reader.

And yet you didn't rebut him.

You forget that if you think Sup Forums's full of plebs who don't read comics, THIS is why. There's NO incentive to, especially if the supposed answer from the true fans who "supposedly know what's really going on" is "read it yourself" which of course means GIVING MONEY to the companies that print comics that suck in the first place. Like the Femthor fans who NEVER actually defend the contents of the comic but itnstead lambast anyone who says negative things about it, claiming they are liars from Sup Forums, but when asked to defend the actual contents, they just go "READ IT YOURSELF YOU FAKE FAN". That first issue left a bad impression on a lot of people. Why should anyone take the plunge?

secondaries leave

Oh get over it Taliafag

Well considering punisher had 3 movies about killing random mobsters and they all flopped maybe they wanted to maake sometging people hadnt seen before.

>means GIVING MONEY to the companies
I don't think I've ever seen anyone equate reading comics to buying comics

are you from Sup Forums?

I read comics. I´m just not a liberal sjw like you

here strong wyman selina saving the stupid usless batman because having a man acting heroic would be considred sexist by feminists
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and here spiderman being written like an idiot so that feminist mockingbird can look good in comparison
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>what about Spectacular Spider-man and Detective Comics?
>HURR AMAZING AND BATMAN
get a fucking clue, user

Doesn't help that they don't link to a story time or archives to give people a head start, since they get deleted or lost in an archive.

Neither of those happen in Detective Comics or Spectacular Spider-Man. Why do you ignore my questions and pretend this happens in the entire franchises?

>spoonfeeding

but he never even mentioned detective comics or spectacular that was the other guy

>OMG YOU CAN'T EXPECT PEOPLE ON Sup Forums TO READ COMICS BEFORE POSTING BECAUSE YOU DON'T LINK STORYTIMES FIRST
Reminder that this is Sup Forums, not Sup Forums

The entire goddamn point was Selina fighting over the right to marry Bruce. It's not SJW pandering you moron

what´s the point. they are still about the right characters.
also this

Why didn't Frank just fuck Sarah?

Comics are a monthly medium that have around 30 pages and are aimed at at target audience, not a multimillion dollar television production aimed at a mass audience. Once again what you were expecting was not realistic.

The ones who talk about why they HATE said comics at least post proof. People like you just choose to think you're superior without doing anything. His word's better than yours already.

This.

I miss the 1970s and 1980s. If this was happening back then, he'd be taking on the Mob. But nope, not good enough apparently now.

Cause reasons. Also, would be awkward boning some widow when you KNOW that you are being watched.

>Everyone upset so it MUST be good1

Or it's just shit.

That was not "the other guy" that was the same person you're arguiing to. Learn to follow reply chains, try lurking this website for more than five minutes. And "the point" is those franchises are safe, just avoid the comics that trigger you because they feature females. There are a lot of Batman comics, the franchise is not under sjw attack.

>it's not realistic to expect 20 episodes of frank going on missions
>there are 2000 stories featuring that
>IT'S NOT REALISTIC!!!!

how is that a contra argument? are you fucking retarded? the first user was talking about that thanks to sjws white male superheroes can no longer act heroic in their own comics. and all you can replay to is "muh that one comic isn´t called spectacular spiderman but amazing spiderman instead and the other one isn´t called batman but detective comics"
seriously how retarded are you guys? have you never had a conversation in real life?

they post "proof" while blatantly misinterpreting what's happening to support their narrative

I didnt know they read comics on Sup Forums. Over there 'I READ COMICS GUISE' makes sense, but you're on Sup Forums, we all read comics kid.

>SJWs aren't reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaal!

Uhuh.

>Spectacular Spider-man is about Spider-man acting heroic in his own comic
>WELL WHAT ABOUT OTHER COMIC

Well YOU have to prove that those comics aren't shit. People have better or supposedly better things to do to waste their life on Sup Forums than to take the time to read a comic that they may or may not like. You don't like it when people bash your comic because you think people take it out of context because someone posted a page from it? Either prove that person a liar or shut up.

name some current comic runs where the heroes still get to save the day and don´t have to play comic side kick for some sjw character

You don't, because you'd know that and know how things have shifted.

>Can no longer act heroic in their own titles
>list two titles where Spider-Man and Batman act heroic
>how is that a contra argument???
Have you never had an argument in your life?

Not an argument.

Or maybe its just that you are shit.

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>current comic runs where the heroes still get to save the day and don´t have to play comic side kick for some sjw character
Detective Comics and Spectacular Spider-Man.

amazing spiderman is the main spidy comic retard also spectacular spiderman just featured a story about peters sister plus some black chick that peter is portrayed like a idiot in comparison

Ok, what's the story then? Where's the arcs and the character development?

Or is it just vignettes of Franking?

the problem, at the end of the day, isn't the side characters, or the plot, but rather the writing is just trash across the board.

And you do nothing but bash the crowd instead of proving that guy wrong. Sure winning over new fans here.

>Also, would be awkward boning some widow when you KNOW that you are being watched.

More like hot.

how is needing getting rescued by female characters or being portrayed as an idiot heroic?

So its obvious you haven't even watched the show and are just parroting, so you just like to argue and greentext?

But that doesn't happen in Spectacular Spider-Man or Detective Comics, the titles we're talking about.

he has a narrative in his head that he's never going to be convinced otherwise

Do you have an argument or?

ok you are just a delusional sjw. got it

Holy shit you are completely correct

The point of proving the guy wrong ISN'T to change him. It's to show onlookers why he's not necessarily in the right. And you know what? He thinks the exact same thing about you.

Is there a word for something so earnest it almost looks like parody.

Coming soon, if you liked Frank you'll love Frank Season 2. Featuring 50 Frank packed 3 hour episodes where Frank goes after the guys who were behind the guys who were behind the guys who killed his family.

How is that Spectacular Spider-Man? Do you not realize they are different titles?

watch in amaze ment as the title giving hero get´s easily defeated by a woman so that another woman can safe his life. This is exactly what I want when I buy a comic called Batman. I don´t want to see Batman do cool stuff. No I want to read about women fighting each other and call Batman an idiot

There are a dozen other Batman titles where this doesn't happen. How are these franchises under attack exactly?

>implying spectacular is any better
are you just going to ignore the sassy black woman and the fact that peter parkers sister becomes a superhero in that run as well?

It's my favourite Marvel show.
It's consistantly great and has some amazing pacing.
Doesn't have some of the highlights of Daredevil S1.

Does anyone have some constructive criticism? Like not retards saying, HURR DURR IT'S GREAT BECAUSE IT'S Sup Forums

shoot, Batman was saving Selina literally two arcs ago