What is the purpose of the electoral college...

What is the purpose of the electoral college? What is the advantage it has over just counting up all the votes and voting votely?

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Protecting the smaller states. America is not a democracy, it's a republic.

If you don't understand, go google American history you retarded faggot.

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>what is wikipedia

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If only popular vote mattered, after a few centuries it will be 3 mega cities and the rest have nothing
EC gives rural voters more weightage

>this is a 10/10 in ireland

To even the power out between big states and small states

As you can see right now this election is down to New Hampshire, co and fla

In a straight democracy co and by Wild never be a concern for anyone it would just be fla

Now the big states are still important and the swing states take a long time to shift and change but over time it allows small states to become a focus for the presidential election and helps offset the massive power of large states

In other words, there is no purpose.

Stop encouraging laziness and retardation.

The United States is a union of states (obviously). The electoral college is meant to ensure that even small states have a say in who becomes president.

Also, when it was designed, information had to be delivered by horse back, so it was more efficient to have a the president selected by electors rather than gathering a vote from every person in every state.

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It prevents a handful of massive liberal cities to completely control the rest of the country.

So is it not scaled directly to population, there is some weighting involved to even things out?

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There is only 538 electoral votes they cut it off after a while and now shift it around based on population proportion it is actually a huge power suppressor on big states.

So now ca ny loose electoral votes as states like Az and Utah grown because they become a proportionally smaller slice of the population pie

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>What is the purpose of the electoral college? What is the advantage it has over just counting up all the votes and voting votely?

Most of the population are mouth-breathers who can't make a decision on their own. If not for the electoral college, an asshole like trump could be president. I never understood the purpose before this year, but the founding fathers were wiser than I knew.

Every state gets
3 + { (state pop/ national pop) * 387 } votes in the EC

The 3 is the weighing component

See but also, the original idea was that if the American people went full retard you could save them from themselves. However, nowadays being a "faithless elector" (going against the vote you were supposed to do) is a crime in most states.

Protection against mob rule.

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>it's an american confuses Direct Democracy for Democracy and believes a Republic is an entirely separate concept and not just a Democratic Republic episode

I just explained the purpose you fucking retard.

Smaller the state, the more valuable those two free electors are.

Each elector has to cover more votes in bigger states, like Cali for example.

It makes sense if you aren't an idiot.

It is relative to population size (how many reps you have based on pop) but each state gets 2 free votes for their senators.

>It's a britbong, who doesn't understand what a republic is

Keep sucking that monarchy dick, faggot.

each state gets a minimum of three to start off

The EC is giving Trump more of a chance, you fucking moron.

That's basically what I said my aussie friend

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Either these are being scaled by the server or you are all saving shit tier versions of images, literally thumbnail quality.

your post is hilarious because the electoral college is the only thing helping trump.

>On four occasions, most recently in the 2000 presidential election, the Electoral College system has resulted in the election of a candidate who did not receive the most popular votes in the election.

Then what's the point of voting?

So the popular vote didn't count if the guy that represents a certain state doesn't vote for who the majority of the population of that state voted for?

im confusd

more importantly, what is point having an even number of electors?

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To ensure that the elite don't have to be fully bound to a popular vote.

It's easier and faster

Before the modern era, everyone would vote on ballot but there were specific people who would travel to DC to cast their vote for President. So basically every one in your town votes then you hop on your carriage and ride for a month to Washington. They would give about two months for everyone to make thats why the inauguration is in January after the election.

Than what just counting the vote? They have to do that anyway. Why not just count the vote and divy it up as an average of the population size of each state or something?

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Back in the day people were mostly uneducated retards, so in their infinite wisdom the people who set up our government decided there should be an institution to prevent the retarded masses from voting an idiot into the presidency.

>See also en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyranny_of_the_majority

to make us feel like we matter

the US is not a democratic republic, it's an oligarch run by Jews and Corporations

Because it prevented the cities from dominating the political body when America was an agrarian nation.

Also, its the states that get to control federal elections to prevent rigging by one central authority.

Yeah. In their defence I rarely see the argument used by anyone other than barely literate Youtube commenters, but still I've never understood yanks why yanks keep saying "it's a republic, not a democracy". It shows a real ignorance of the meanings of those words.

The original Athenian democracy didn't have universal suffrage but it was very much a democracy.

>one central authority
you mean like the electorial college

The us is not a direct democracy, it is a democratic republic. The electoral college is to keep the actual vote out of peasant hands.

No, you don't understand what we mean by saying we're not a democracy. People plead and beg for a populist vote but that would go against the very foundation of our republic, which is all about anti-tyranny. That includes democracy, monarchy, or dictatorship.

Do you americans think it needs to be reformed?

If the masons don't like the results they can blame florida and ohio.

Popular votes are also a lot easier to rig with double ballots and such

I think senators need to count for more votes.

Each state should get 4 free electors (votes) instead of two.

We would see more of a balance that the original creators intended.

Technically, the popular vote elects the electors.

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When you cast your "vote" you aren't casting a vote for your president, you are casting a vote for the electors that have been selected by the Party which your candidate represents. There are no federal laws and nothing in the constitution requiring an elector to vote for their parties candidate. Their have been a total of 4 instances in which the president selected for office did not win the popular "vote" and was selected by the Electoral college or in the event that the electoral college could not come to a suitable vote it moves on to the house of Representatives.

TL;DR your vote selects the electors of whom are chosen by the DNC or RNC for each respective candidate. Their are a total 538 electors of 318 million people thats less that 0.00001 percent of the population. They do not have to vote for the candidate of their party. Your vote doesn't matter. But still go out and register and spend your time and money. Its a ritual you gotta feed the beast.

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To everyone saying it makes small states matter, it only makes them matter if they're swing states. I'm pretty sure NH is the only small swing state

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so because of dank memes from ago trump will in the popular vote but hillary will win because of ECucks

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Not possible. It will be the literal opposite, if anything.

Most states require that electors swear to be faithful and those laws have been upheld by SCOUTS

I can't believe there are people who actually believe this.

He seemed to be doing better in recent polls, wonder which way it will go

The faithless elector problem you described is extremely rare and has NEVER had an impact on any presidential outcome.

It's possible for someone to win the popular vote but still lose the electoral votes because of how electoral votes are divided. It has nothing to do with electors themselves.

The US is a democratic republic.

Republic means nothing more than to have elected representatives. The democracy part comes in from having those representatives be elected by the general public.

This.

PoliSci major here and one of my professor was in charge of selcting electors amd he said: "we choose people who are incapable of independent thought as electors, they will vote the party line no matter what, even if our candidate was literally hitler/stalin"

technically true, however some states punish faithless electors, and more importantly the parties pick their electors so there's almost no chance of large-scale EC flipping

Wrong not MOST states, only 25 states do. That half. Also the U.S. Supreme Court has held that the Constitution does not require that Electors be completely free to act as they choose and therefore, political parties may extract pledges from electors to vote for the parties' nominees. Some state laws provide that so-called "faithless Electors" may be subject to FINES or may be "disqualified" for casting an invalid vote and be replaced by a substitute elector. The Supreme Court has not specifically ruled on the question of whether pledges and penalties for failure to vote as pledged may be enforced under the Constitution.

at the time it was March, they dragged it back because that 5 month wait was just stagnation

Democracy is shit so having pure populism rule would cause us to be exactly like the roman empire
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Right except the senate was intended to be elected by the political elites of each state. The congresses of each state used to select senators, this was to ensure that the national government was controlled in part by the will of state governments. A constituional amendment changed this and it was huge mistake.

makes sense, technically it's the states that elect the President.

keep retards like stump out of the white house

I did before they allowed an idiot like trump to get this far

it protects stupid americans from themselves

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yeah I agree, senators should be elected by state legislatures. It's more in keeping with the concept of an upper house, and it's more in keeping with the original federalist nature of the US

But the United States is a democracy. The fact that you voted today makes it so.

Easier to rig.

>original federalist Nature of the US
The founding fathers were anything but federalists. Learn you fucking history. American was not a federalist but an anti-federalist nation. Federalism is a cancer. Its the one of the main problems we suffer under currently. Rampant federalism, and its something that the founders knew would happen. Which is why they originally gave more powers to the states. You are buying into the lie that this nation was intended to be a federal empire, its not. It was supposed to be a collection of individual states endowed with the powers to set and make their own laws. That faggot Lincoln jewed America out and started it to murdering itself.

I think either what user here says needs to happen Or we need to create more states, turn Chicago, New York City, and Las Angeles into their own states.

Inbred drumpfkin roaches are too stupid to vote so we let the smart people vote instead.

yes. those that fear americans going "full retard" don't understand that most americans are already fully retarded. also this is implying that electors can't go full retard during elections because of fear-mongering, economic depression, war, et cetera. this will give americans more power in their vote. just because a big ol city scares the rural folks does not mean that those cities will have the last word for elections. the way the current system works, it gives leverage to those bigger states, not that smaller ones. take california for example, one of the bluest states in the union yet southern california leans more to the right and there are major pockets across souther, inland and the northernmost part of california that lean to the right. but their vote will never be considered because of the left's majority.

imo a reform would even the playing field.

Jesus christ, he clearly meant it was in line with the original Federal structure of the United States as opposed to the overly centralized modern structure, i.e. it gave more power to states.

America is an oligarchic Republic. Always has been. The landed class has always had the power. When the bankers and oil families merged during the turn of the 18th century they became the largest land owners and thus the ruling class. They are still the ruling class. They currently own both political parties and the voting is a shame ritual to placate the retarded masses into thinking they have a voice, they don't, they have owners, they own you.

Balance of power.

The states elect the POTUS which the head of the executive branch of the US government.

Popular vote would be distruptive and force the election to cater towards urban demographics while fucking the rest of the country over.

The original purpose was to give states that had small populations a better chance at getting their voice heard.

To me it seems like the goal of keeping it though is to make sure liberals always get what they want. Because if every single vote counted from every State their would be a much higher chance of Republicans winning. For example, in California San Francisco and Los Angeles are liberal BUT most of the State outside of those cities are Republican.

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The Roman Empire was a Republic tho lol.

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Or it is simply based on the total number of congretional seats the state has... the minimum being 3 (2 senators + 1 representative).

>Popular vote would be distruptive and force the election to cater towards urban demographics while fucking the rest of the country over.
but thats what the current system does too