Doomsday Cucks

Johns had Ozy spelling out the irony of the name ozymandias, not only he believes the public is retarded, but it's probably that he didnt knew the meaning of it before this year.

Keep in Mind that Johns didnt knew the difference between the romans and greeks until 2016. There's something that really bothers me, and is the dismissal of any criticism as either moorefags or the sacred cow meme, Johnsfags do the same shit all the time, it's either Kylefags, or Waidfags, or Morrisonfags, or Batgodfags (even thougt batman fans love year one, btas, and the nolan movies were batman is extremely nerfed), it's never johns.


Johnsfags are the same kind of people that will attack the Watchmen movie for changing shit, the same people that will mock marvel for civil war 2, and yet they will defend Johns shitty doomsday clock and say "it's just the first issue", they did the same when Geoff butchered the new gods and we ended with the horrible darkseid war.

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>attack the Watchmen movie for changing shit, the same people that will mock marvel for civil war 2
Is this subtle bait?

No you idiot, i'm saying that it's retarded to defend doomsday clock if you know why civil war 2 was both a mess and a cashgrab.

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>the same people that will mock marvel for civil war 2
Sounds like they have good judgement.

>it's retarded to defend doomsday clock
Should've stopped there. No need to bring in other horrible shit and try to make a statement.

> comparing Sjw marvel shit to a decent first issue if u don't give a shit about any sacred cows that stunt creative for saying no don't do that

>Decent
If you're a fucking moron sure it was decent.

I have no idea what you're trying to communicate. Is this satire?

>to a decent first issue

How it was decent? it was garbage.

Johns is responsible for the New 52 and the Wonder Woman reformulation, this is reason enough to put him of the worst writers of history, this dood has destroyed 80 years of Wonder Woman history
"I love ice cream"

Just kys, idiot. Doomsday Clock is good so far, the first issue wasn't perfect but it was pretty good. You're just a salty idiot.
Please just kys. You can try by cutting your veins.

He didnt touch a wonder woman comics before 2014, you need to forgive him, watchmen and moore didnt allowed him to read wondy before that year.


You need to understand how STUPID Geoff Johns is.

You don't need anything more that to pay attention to the polish part, poland was a puppet entity of the soviets up until 1990, in this alternative history were the soviets clearly didnt fell there's no reason for an invasion of poland, as it would be pretty obvious that the poles wouldnt be part of the "european union"
The european union... started in 1993. That's the kind of imbecile behind this comic, one of the reasons moore used nixon because with Manhattan the nixon doctrine made no sense and could turn into full interventionism, especially when you have the background of Chile (and the comedian) you have a good reason to use that president.

Same happens with reagan, him and tatcher are the faces of neo-liberalism, they mean something, Redford is a guy that likes guns, if you don't understand why this is so empy, and how the nods to Trump are not only shallow but also extremely dated it means you are as stupid as geoff johns.

You gotta love israel being mentioned tho,

Grow up.

I admit I was pretty fucking stupid for Ozy to spelled out his name like that. But to be fair there would be a shit load of people who know the meaning of the name, and these people (especially journalists) won't mind explaining it to his face when the squid plot was proven.
Veidt might be an egotistical retard but the guy would easily accept how ironic his naming was when his whole plan failed.

lol oh wow.

thats such an exaggeration, its no watchmen issue 1 but its fine on its own

>thats such an exaggeration
Some people have standards. Aside from ok art the dialgue is bad, the story is retarded when put on context and the exposition just makes everything a extremely dumb mess.

>"I love ice cream"
You reminded me of something I'd for once managed to suppress.
Now I'm remembering another moment of engaging characterization and interaction from his masterful penmanship
>You're strong.
>I know.

>OH MY GOD HE INSULTED OUR GOD EMPEROR
fuck off you take life, comics and politics too fucking seriously

>Autistic moore fans thinking that muh sacred cow is super deep. cry more you got 11 issues to go faggots

What part of your post made you think i like Trump?

I'm not american, and Trump is just another zionist. This is the point i'm making, for people like you, the politics in the comics are irrelevant and thats why you like the garbage Johns, a retard that believes Aquaman caring about the environment is "too preachy", is doing with a highly political comic. Johns doesnt know shit about history or politics, and that's the reason he isnt fit to work with this characters. If you don't know shit, it's easy to pretend the comic isnt a shallow cashgrab.

>>Autistic moore fans thinking that muh sacred cow
Read
>and is the dismissal of any criticism as either moorefags or the sacred cow meme

Johnsfags are retards with no arguments.

I don't really care I'm just reading to find out whats next for the dc universe

>Keep in Mind that Johns didnt knew the difference between the romans and greeks until 2016
What the fuck?

Aha still got 11 issues Autistic kun better get ready for your favourite book to get more raped or kill your self if you can't take it

That's not a joke.

Explain.

During Darkseid War we see the origin of Grail, she and her mother met a bunch of Romans... this was almost 3000 years BC. Johns had mixed the 2 a few times before even when he worked in "olympus" he just continued to mix roman and greek stuff.

Someone needs to sit Geoff down, explain to him that he is terrible at symbolism and shocking twists and "deep" narratives, and encourage him to focus on just making entertaining adventures.

Cereal Lord can write a good fight scene if he tries, but he needs someone else to handle characters and themes for him.

If we are objective, in visual narrative of the comic is good, Pay attention to the shared narrative and the sequential art

That is the most ass-backwards way of saying "It has good layouts" I've ever seen.

Is he the Snyder of comic writers? Maybe just a little more entertaining at times

No, more like a misguided Sam Raimi. It's his ability to craft an entertaining scenario that's strong, not the visual flow and and artsy shots.

No because they're different fucking cash grabs. CW2 was an unplanned rushed mess that had no direction really plotted out and existed to coincide with a movie for a cheap buck. Also no one who worked on it cared about it.

Doomsday Clock is a cash grab but Johns is putting care and focus into it regardless of the overall quality. He has a plot and message in mind. It's calculated. It's a cash grab but not a cheap cash grab.

Are you an faggot? What good idiotic designs, visual narrative is very important in a comic. Here, for example, there is a shared narrative of two simultaneous scenes. Thing that is done to give the impression of simultaneity

Here in this other gives the impression of dialogue campeao, each expression of clark is accompanied with a dialogue and expression that gives us a perspective of clark of each situation in a fluid way

Yeah, it's a good layout.
Is English your fourth language?

>Here in this other gives the impression of dialogue campeao,
>each expression of clark is accompanied with a dialogue and expression that gives us a perspective of clark of each situation

No, I'm French, but I've learned a lot about design and visual narrative by visual gias from the creators of asterix and several other authors like scott mccloud. Sorry for my English, But as I say, It's not just good character design (if that's what you mean) The visual narrative is very important, And doomsday cloack does it very well. Regardless of the argument is very important and mediocre things like CW2 or civil war(1) have none of that.

Layout isn't good character design. It's the visual direction the panels are arranged.

You're pitching a fit because of the language barrier and poorly using more imposing terms ("visual narrative in relation to shared narrative, etc") to say something simple.

A layout is where images appear, what happens in them and how they correlate. It's the design of the page. You're saying a whole bunch of stuff in broken English when all you really mean is "it has really strong layouts." And yeah, it does, and that's a big deal in European comic especially so I understand why you place a lot of value in that.

Johns fans, everybody.

Yep, that. As I say independently of the argument, the thing remains at least decent for that reason.

Now compare that to pax americana and you will understand how basic the layout in this comic is. It's not good. It's decent, it's the minimum you should expect.

Johnsfags are usually illiterate, retarded and found on Reddit

>As it would be pretty obvious that the poles wouldnt be part of the "european union"
The european union... started in 1993.
And the yanks didn't win the Vietnam war, between the end of Watchmen and the beginning of Doomsday Clock, the world was all about joing together and helping eachother, why wouldn't the EU start earlier?
It's not that I don't agree with you on most of your points, but saying Johns is dumb because he made the EU exist earlier in a history that's not out own is quite silly

>the same kind of people that will attack the Watchmen movie for changing shit

Fuck off, Snyderfag. The movie was shit.

Will we ever see Pandora again?