Man, she was surprisingly cool with that whole knocked up by God thing

Man, she was surprisingly cool with that whole knocked up by God thing.

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been forever since i was anywhere near a church but wasn't she asked before if she was okay with it?

I’m pretty sure she was picked for the job specifically because she was so cool with it.

People still worship and pray to her herself and i think it’s partly because she was supposed to be this saintly person who was deemed worthy of being a part of this big miracle because she was the only one so devout and selfless to make such a big sacrifice for it.

Yeah, since the actual translation of what people call virgin now was actually "waifu material."

God better be careful before he gets sued.

What's she going to do, complain?

Yes, the immaculate conception actually refers to the conception of Mary, not Jesus.

I think I remember she was talked to beforehand but I don’t think it was because god was looking for permission.

you said Mary was a little girl Sup Forums why did you lie to me?

Anyone else feel kind of offended how a holy story is reduced to animal comic relief? I know everyone can do whatever they want, and I'm not saying it's bad since I haven't seen it, and I will ignore it without shoving my opinions down other people's throats, but I just feel a bit... disrespected as a Christian.
Plus it's funny how if someone did this about Islam the whole production studio would be blown up

well according to le catlick documents they think its recorded she was a holy girl or something so it wasnt thaaaat suprising

If I'm not mistaken, Gabriel showed up to tell her it was happening, not exactly to ask her permission. Pretty sure God already knew she'd be cool with it.

>God is a rapist
Who the fuck do I turn to now?

>tfw you realize women of the era before modern plumbing must've smelled fucking horrible

was god desperate to bone?

I agree. At least before hand if they did do a comedy around the story of Jesus birth it was done with some respect like the little drummer boy. This just feels...Shallow, and wrong. Like cash grab from people who think Christians will buy anything.

i mean if that's how you feel then the whole concept of santa and how it has taken over the christian holy day should be pretty disgusting

Not him, but are you assuming there aren't many Christians who despise commercialization of this holiday?

She asked Gabriel how it would happen given that she was virgin, but ultimately says she's okay with it.

i bet they still indoctrinate their kids with the santa myth

Some might, my parents did, but I don't know if I can blame them. It's just American "culture."

Santa's part of old European folklore, Father Christmas and Odin and all that. Blame the Americans for commercializing him.

Rule34 when?

>thinking santa is still a thing

Always did see this story as the ultimate cuck porn.

Anyone draw her getting fucked by a bright blue light yet?

If you get cucked by god is it because you are blessed or cursed?

So either Joseph is so Alpha on God could cuck him. Or he is the biggest beta....

only*

Only in the cities, which is the case in modern 3rd world cities anyway. People still bathed and washed regularly, which the Old Testament even giving some instructions on the matter, and perfumes were big business, so much that 2 of the 3 gifts given the Jesus from the wise men were perfumes.

As long as by Alpha you mean Pious.

Jesus also had 4 named brothers and an undocumented number of sisters. So Joseph got pretty busy with Mary afterwards.

Weren’t some of those step siblings from a previous marriage of Joseph’s?

>holy story.
More like, Cool story, bro.

I mean, I can imagine you'd get a pretty good amount of brownie points for it, even if it turned out to be an evil god or something. Given the circumstances, if an unfathomably powerful creature showed up to say it's stealing one of my loads to save humanity, I'd probably have an awkward sort of "Oh, okay" about it as well.

>A literal god
I'm sure Zeus had no trouble convincing women to have sex with him, and even if they resisted, it wasn't trouble at all for him.
Nu-Gods learned from him.

>Man, she was surprisingly cool with that whole knocked up by God thing.
One has to wonder why the deity HAD to pick a 14 year old. I know it is the norm back then, but there is absolutely no reason why he can't just find an adult to impregnate. It just makes it looks like a child made up a lie about immaculate conception, so that she could avoid being stoned to death when they find out she isn't a virgin on her wedding night.

I've read some interpretations considering Joseph as the biological father.

I suppose that would be a better alternative to Jesus being conceived out of wedlock, whether by infidelity or rape.

From what I understand that's a line made up after the fact. People forget Mary wasn't just an important figure in the story, but had a distinct cult and a space above and beyond what any equivalent figure in another religion might have. Having her do literally anything a normal woman would be expected to do would be the ultimate faux pas.

The obvious problem with these being all of Josephs previous children is they'd also be there as younger children or younger adults. I don't recall any nativity scene having like six other people described in it.

You simply can not have that many other people in that household in that order just going by official narrative.

>14 year old.

Wherefrom comes this number?

>Wherefrom comes this number?
The number accepted by most theologians and the Church through the ages. A recent Fox News host even claimed that it is fine to fuck a 14 year old because their god did it.

That's the minor thing. God, Jesus and Holy Spirit are the same person. God is own father and own son.

in medieval europe the norm was marriage at 16, with usually a few years before getting a child. The younger aged marriages were usually nobility marrying out kids for political reasons, they also generally didnt consummate their marriage till 16+

god is supposed to be omnipotent, so yes. For the rest of the bible to make sense he would HAVE to have known.

Today is the feast day for that, by the way.

Judaism has always been big on bathing.

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>baptism was naked and mixed originally before they got all prudish
>sweatingman.jpg

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Had she intended to know man, she would not have been amazed. Her amazement is a sign of the vow (Sermon 225, 2). St. Augustine
Mary has took the vow of virginity, that's why Joseph was so reluctant until angel tell him to take care of her, Joseph himself was pretty old at the time of Mary and him walking for miles every years even make his health worsen, to think that he can have another children after Jesus who is the first born is ridiculous, the most point is that Joseph is likely to die when Jesus was 12 while they were traveling. Because Jesus disciple replace the role of joseph in the later year. Mary was not just a woman she is Immaculate conception, which is why she is free from sin and therefore being very devoted and religious person, and the most important thing, she is the descendant of Abraham, in which God promise Abraham that his descendant shall be the king of many nations, note that when said nation means "people" since Jesus Christ is a king of Earth, it fulfill the Old testament promise.

God in the bible was alpha and would just do shit for no reason. she had no choice but it turned out alright in the end.

also Mary was born without the original sin so she was prime candidate

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>thot tries to get away with cheating on her husband
>makes a religion out of it

How *is* the movie anyway?

She was also in part a descendant of Kind David, like Joseph. This made Jesus the rightful heir to the throne of Isreal, which is why Herod wanted him dead.

Only Joseph was David's descendant

Was it rape?

>Luke 3:23-38

“Joseph was clearly the son of Jacob (Matthew 1:16, so this verse [Luke 3:23 - says “son of Heli”] should be understood to mean “son-in-law of Heli.” Thus, the genealogy of Christ in Luke is actually the genealogy of Mary, while Matthew gives that of Joseph. Actually, the word “son” is not in the original, so it would be legitimate to supply either “son” or “son-in-law” in this context. Since Matthew and Luke clearly record much common material, it is certain that neither one could unknowingly incorporate such a flagrant apparent mistake as the wrong genealogy in his record. As it is, however, the two genealogies show that both parents were descendants of David—Joseph through Solomon (Matthew 1:7-15), thus inheriting the legal right to the throne of David, and Mary through Nathan (Luke 3:23-31), her line thus carrying the seed of David, since Solomon’s line had been refused the throne because of Jechoniah’s sin” [Dr. Henry M. Morris, The Defender’s Study Bible, note for Luke 3:23 (Iowa Falls, Iowa: World Publishing, Inc., 1995).].

I thought it was by a Roman guy named Panthera.

Nice mental gymnastics. Only Joseph was David's descendant

I don't think it should be allowed to talk about this besides drawing lewds of Mary. You worthless christfags are just taking it as an excuse to post dumbass fanfics of old garbage.

>is given an explaination with citation.
>calls it fake news.

She is addicted to divine dick?

>buying into the "Santa isn't real" conspiracy

That was not an explaination. That was the typical "the bible doesn't mean that, it means this because I say so"

Meant for

Matthew 1:6 and Luke 3:31 clearly show a split in the genealogy from David, Solomon and Nathan.

I can't tell if you're a delusional christfag or a vindictive fedora.

Dude, relax. No one takes this seriously, religious or secular.

So how many women would actually go through with having the child of god with or without their permission today?

err hmm
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all of them I presume since God would probably make it so any attempts to terminate fail.

Yeah, too cool if you ask me.

Isn't it weird we're all just taking her word that she is carrying the son of God? Like, couldn't this all be one convoluted lie she was fooling around behind Joseph's back?

Thank you for the backup. I was just hurt by that user's refusal to do actual research.

>god's forces his seed into a girl and forces her to give birth
>This happens during a time where everyone is going crazy about rape culture and harassment

How would they react knowing their god's a rapist? fascinating.

Christmas is a pagan holiday anyway, celebration of the winter's solstice. Christians have a respect for the spirit of giving and altruism in the holiday, but most don't really think or care about the commercialization.

That's not an answer.

The "Church" has claimed lots of things through the ages.

Where, specifically, does this number comes from?

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If I had to guess, probably apocrypha. The Bible canon simply does not say.

Specifying her age may have been some obscure Church decision. I can't say it was to justify pedophilia becuase I don't think it was considered a crime in the 5th century Church.

Maybe 14 was the accepted age of sexual maturity, and Mary was a virgin. Who knows what was the common marrying age.

Don't mind me, I'm just throwing thoughts out there.

Is this Loss?

The first one. Apocryphal books put her age around 12-14, but those books were not trusted and were pretty much considered the earliest fanfictions of the Bible.

The whole new testament is a fanfic

Catholic please stop

Not of one considers the writings of the Apostals inspired.

Anything written after their passing was considered suspect. It was common to produce forgeries without the Apostels around to contest them. Even the Church fell victim to its own bullshit when people started reading the Bible for themselves.

This led the Church to sanction thier own version of the Bible, the KJV, or "Authorized" version. Ironically, many Christians swear by this version as the true translation inspite of it actually being the first edit to support thier doctrines.

I feel like I went off track.

>That's not an answer.
>The "Church" has claimed lots of things through the ages.
>Where, specifically, does this number comes from?
The Church is the only real source for anything religious, anything that can be proven scientifically, isn't religious by definition. What matters is the theologians believe that Mary is 14. And that Christians through the centuries believe she was 14. That's all that matters for the discussion. That they knew their god knocked up a child, and they are fine with it.

Protestcuck pls

Thank you for an actual answer.

Thanks for nothing.

>People still worship and pray to her

Because they are polytheists that can't into montheism

>Thanks for nothing.
I am not sure what you are expecting. Religious doctrine has no factual basis, it is entirely based on what people want to believe. If you are in denial about that, I am sorry to hear it.

Chimptheism*

IDK. Devil, I guess? Or just go full fedora.

Why wait? You got the next best thing:

>get a load of this guy
You're not wrong, you're just an asshole.

You're welcome. Even as a nonbeliever there is no harm in understanding what goes into religion. History, language, theology, and cultural studies are amazing subjects.

I don't understand why some would resist being educated on the subject, even on a scholarly level. I thought athiests were suppose to be intellectuals.

But it seems now that some would rather rely on misinformation and blatant ignorance to accomplish their goal to end religion.

The fuck is this?

I agree; you must know your enemy in order to defeat it.

>But it seems now that some would rather rely on misinformation and blatant ignorance to accomplish their goal to end religion.
I stated Mary is known to be 14 by theologians. The fact that I didn't supply a source doesn't mean i was wrong.
In fact, I didn't supply a source because it doesn't matter. The source is written by people who made it up anyway. What matters is that Christians believe it. If you deny this, you don't know how religion works.

>yeah man Jesus totally inhabited the womb of a sinner
>t. Proteshit

You're an asshole for defending religion.

What was she gonna do? Call the police?

>Worshiping Satan

He's literally just the yes man of God who's an asshole to humanity. All demons still have to obey God as shown when Jesus cast out Legion, they have no authority that God doesn't grant them.

Even when the Anti-Christ arrives it's not like they have any chance of beating God. Its just one massive final test for humanity.

God didn't exactly ask but she still was honored to be chosen "I am the lord's servant, thy will be done" were her words when the angel told her.