WHAT "JOBS"?

Honestly, is there any group more stupid than the working-class whites? They have consistently voted against their economic interests for decades now out of racism/xenophobia, homophobia, and a pathetic admiration for rich white Republicans, who just see them as pawns

I am not sure what these working-class white people expect to happen. Where are the "jobs" they talk about going to come back from?

Do they expect that Trump is going to pass legislation so that it suddenly becomes more economical again for a company to have a US-based factory where they pay Americans a livable wage than it is to have a Chinese factory where they pay children peanuts?

Do they think 12 million people will be deported, a wall will be built and maintained, and now all those Americans trying to get landscaping jobs in Southern California and Texas will finally be able to without competition from Jose?

>is there any group more stupid than the working-class whites?
the non working blacks and whites

Except they're actually smart enough to make the system work for them.

Enjoy your landscaping job for sub minimum wage.

you see, this is why you lost, because you liberal faggots in your daddy mansions think yourselves the holders of the only truth and the only ones who should speak. You have bullied the people who have built the nation over the last centuries and in the last years you have constantly insulted and humiliated them, and you have the nerve to wish for them to continue being oppressed, silenced and ignored while they are expected to continue working for no gratitude or respect

you are evil

based Spainbro

>being spanish

No one gives a fuck about your smelly opinion

Tendie money is gonna dry up soon :^)

I thought you NEETs put him into office, why would he do that?

This is what happens when you alienate the people paying your welfare, you scum.

The world doesn't work the way you think it does. Maybe use your tiny brain to get a job instead of complain.

then you realize democracy exists and that your opinion is the same as those that you labeled as stupid because they disagree with you

and this election finally it has been shown that their opinion matters, and perhaps more than yours

I think it smells nice

>Do they expect that Trump is going to pass legislation so that it suddenly becomes more economical again for a company to have a US-based factory

Taxing goods entering the country.

Right now a company can open a factory in Mexico, pay them in shitty Pasos, then sell the product in the US. It's essentially currency trading via producing goods.

Except the retards lost the popular vote.

Didn't you get the memo? CTR officially ended today. You are no longer being paid to post.

$0.00 has been deposited into your account.

Enjoy your concrete shoes at the bottom of the Potomac.

>Consistently insult a class of people for 20+ years
>Expect them to vote for you

I thought the left was supposed to be smart?

so you are going to use that as an excuse to say their opinion doesn't matter?

Sure 8 years of Obama did wonders. Doubled debt, bailed out the banks, Wallstreet left unchecked, the average Joe had to pay the bills.

Great plan.

When did Republicans vote for Clinton who signed NAFTA?

I know Reagan was a cuck and allowed amnesty.

Seriously, non-whites have been voting Democratic for how many decades? They still have 1/10th, or less, the net worth whites have

Economies of scale keeps rural areas from jobs.

That's just the way it is. The free market fixed them.

Why would I put a factory in Kentucky when I could put one in Virginia and reach millions more people while saving hundreds of thousands of dollars per year?

Transportation is expensive, even BEFORE the cost of paying a driver.

You. I like you.

You forgot the Arizona, Michigan and Wisconsin all went Trump and they aren't even done counting yet.

Stay mad cuccboi, Trump won and there's nothing you can do about it.

It's actually quite simple: we just have to take advantage of the inefficiency of our size.

If we disincentivize people from living in giant megalopolis cities with welfare and housing, people will seek property and opportunities in less crowded areas, meaning that those people will need services and infrastructure. Because it can't possibly be centralized, we create more jobs and liquid funds and prosperity by putting our people to work instead of supporting them on the dole.

Getting America to move into the rural parts of the country is how we improve things.

If diversity is important (it is mostly a net benefit if you don't waste money forcing it to happen artificially), then the best policy is to get diversity out of the city and share it.

People will respect muslims if they are in their small towns working respectable jobs. Same with Mexicans and blacks. Everyone wins, everyone profits. Except for real estate speculators.

>poor minorities can't get jobs
They need to work hard and get one

>Poor whites can't get jobs
It's the governments fault

They are no more stupid than the other side. A few dumb asses believe that jobs magically appear (and a few on the other side thought Obama was gonna pay the mortgages).

Mostly, I believe, they feel like the economic recovery skipped them. It's frustrating being told that everything is better when your life is just getting worse. Trump's isolationist leaning platform may actually help these people. Certainly more likely than more free trade would help them.

But mostly what Spain bro is saying... this is like the final phrases in the Grapes of Wrath.

*Sounds like a recipe for lots of companies leaving the US altogether.

t. deviant NEET faggot

Give it a few months, queer. You're gonna work or you're gonna die.

How fractured is your ass?

>"I will bring back your jobs, I will tax Ford's vehicles 35% if Ford relocates a factory to Mexico and imports the cars"
>"I will repeal these trade deals that put so many americans out of work"
>"I will limit H1-Bs so that american college graduates can get those tech jobs"

HURR DURRRRRRRR TRUMP ISN'T GOOD FOR WORKING PEOPLE

HURR DURRRRRRRRR EVERYONE WHO VOTED TRUMP IS RAAAAAAAAAACIST!

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACIST!

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACIST!

Sometimes safety Trump's (((economic interests))).

Afterall, more suicide bombers in America will create a boom for EMT, and prosthetic leg manufacturers.

You wouldn't want to stifle all the creative destruction.

Truće

Import tax
build and rebuild infrastructure
rebuild the military

It worked great when Hitler did it.

You are going to miss him.

you just voted mr. pedophile "grab them in the pussy" into office. He didn't even release his tax returns.

I guarantee you will miss him.

And it works just as great when Trump does it.

Tariffs could make importing to the US expensive. Companies like the US market. This why the gamble of isolationist policies keeps coming back up in political cycles.

fpbp

CTR please go. There is not point anymore. You lost.
>They have consistently voted against their economic interests
>for rich white Republicans

So tell me, why should working-class whites vote democrats when those people hate them simply for being white and poor?
Democrats were tho ones who bashed and bullied whites for decades and it was Hillary supporters like Lena Dunham who called for the extinciotn of white men.
>Working class whites voting against their own extinction
>stupid
Pick one.

>Where are the "jobs" they talk about going to come back from?
China, Mexico, other 3rd worls shitholes.

>Do they expect that Trump is going to pass legislation so that it suddenly becomes more economical again for a company to have a US-based factory where they pay Americans a livable wage than it is to have a Chinese factory where they pay children peanuts?

Yes, because Trump is gonna tax chinese products to hell so that american workers can finally compete.

By the way, did you just defend chinese slavery?

Most trump supporters will say this:

>who doesn't want to grab a pussy?

>who gives a fuck about his tax returns

Next question

>muh 50s pipe dream

This.
Fuck off demos, time to actually listen to what trump is going to do instead of make baseless claims and shitpost.

HES HAD A PLAN THIS WHOLE TIME. TIME TO GO READ WHAT IT IS

>Do they expect that Trump is going to pass legislation so that it suddenly becomes more economical again for a company to have a US-based factory where they pay Americans a livable wage than it is to have a Chinese factory where they pay children peanuts?
What is a "tariff"?

>>who gives a fuck about his tax returns

this. He paid the least amount he legally had to like every other person should.

>chinese product costs 5 dollars
>american product costs 50 dollars
>Trump taxes chinese products to 55 dollars
>you now have to spend ten times the money to buy the same product
>nobody can actually afford anything anymore
>chinese instead sell product everywhere else and can charge 10 dollars

>he thinks the working class pays most of the taxes
>doesn't know most of the burden is on the educated middle class

>he is so porr that he cannot afford 50 bucks.

When the american worker finally has good jobs and economic prosperity, he will be able to afford himself nice things and maybe expensive things as well.
It worked before, not even too long ago, just a few decades.
Why shouldn't it work now?

Just pie in the sky, but I'd like to see a wage and environmental tariff disparity system. Tariffs to be adjusted based on worker pay and environmental protection of the exporting country.

Use slave labor in China and keep dumping heavy metals in the rivers? Tariff balances that to a Federal minimum wage job and dealing with the EPA bullshit.

It would make iCrap more expensive here, hell a lot of non essential items would get way more expensive. We'd adjust, and have a more robust manufacturing base.

CTR and Libtards are traversing anger now so you know.
They are trying to snark and snarll at all of us cause they lost.

Factory workers in the US cost 23x as much as Chinese workers while only being 2x as productive. This doesn't even include all the other more expensive costs associated with a factory. You're going to tax the shit out of a company, seriously risking them just not dealing with the US altogether, just so some unskilled physical laborers in the US can feel like America is "great again"? Yea, not going to happen.

He is not obligated to release his tax returns.
>mug Drumpf is a rapist xdddd

There is literally ZERO proof that the women actually didn't consent to be grabbed by the pussy. Why are you denying a women the right to decide about her own body?

You act as if no women ever fucked a rich guy for his money. Which is exactly what Trump's "pussy grabbing story" describes.

the effect passes down lel

Kindly fick off. Youre here asking for a debate then yoir feefees get hirt wjen some truth surfaces. At some point people will say fuck it this idiot is a lost cause

I do believe that what you just watched was an election asking for that to happen.

Thankfully our system has checks and balances and moves slowly. You won't see it overnight but look for a shift that way... labor and environmental arbitrage was good for soaring profits for 20+ years. We may see the reigns pulled back on it a bit...

At least that's what was sold.

Stupid people are so shortsighted and afraid of losing their obsolete laborer jobs that they'd let corporations take huge tax cuts to fuck them over like slaves and fuck up our economy.

>why shouldn't it work now
Because a protectionism and mercantilism doesn't work. Even the prosperity from the Marshall Plan relied on cheap workers after all European economies collapsed. The logical step for Trump's policies would be to invite more illegal mexicans. He wants to deport them.

At some point a system must generate something. A country of all bartenders runs out of liquor.

Not everyone is a great thinker inventing the next Internet sensation. We can't produce intangibles and import physical items forever. If we were to try we'd have to subsidize an even larger swath of our population so they can survive...

Bernie, is that you?

This. China shits out 8 million engineers per fucking year. Their only advantage is that they're (still) dirt cheap while being more productive than cheaper workslaves.

This is a NEET board. You need to fuck off normie.

They have full employment already

michigan(5.4%)
ohio(5.2%)
wisconsin(4.4%)

You are just buying the mainstream media's narrative hook line and sinker.

Protectionism works very well, if you forget about (((their))) interest. The profit shall be for the American People.
>The logical step for Trump's policies would be to invite more illegal mexicans. He wants to deport them.
A more homogenous country is more united and stable. Illegals have no right to be in america.

>racism
>homophobia

shit memes niggerfaggot

>You are just buying the mainstream media's narrative hook line and sinker.
And apparently so are middle-class whites. As it is one of their main gripes.

How did that protectionism work out for you in 1940-1945, Hans?

A country where people are working just to work when there are more efficient ways to create the products they're making is just stupid.

You can bring the factories back, but guess what they're going to do? Automate the shit out of them. They'll have robots that are 100x as productive at a fraction of the cost in no time.

People will just have to accept that capitalism in its current form is unsustainable.

>attacking nazi economic policy

That wasnt the only thing they did right.

>WHAT "JOBS"?
OP has never been to Michigan, Indiana, Ohio, or Pennsylvania

No, that is what YOU believe to be their gripe because you were told so.

>They have consistently voted against their economic interests

Clinton campaigned for and signed NAFTA.

Dems haven't been the party for anyone with a job since the 60s.

No, but it is you user, who are believing what you are being told.

The influx of "illegals" in the last 100 years have only helped America be the most dominant military, economic, and cultural power in the world.

The backlash against current "illegals" is purely about xenophobia and politics. It is not based on a reasoned assessment of the effect of immigration, legal or not, on the American economy.

Popular vote was manipulated by intense democratic party voter fraud. Without your voter fraud it would have been a landslide election for trump by 8 pm

>Protectionism will bring our jobs back
Everyone who is a middle-class non-factory worker will be paying more for goods to make up for companies' lost profits. Until companies just automate the factory jobs away completely. US manufacturing productivity is at an all time high - it just requires far fewer employees.

Oh well. The dialectic is in motion.

Except.. you lost as well. Trump played you like a bitch and you were too stupid too notice

I gave you facts, you gave me talking points. Seems obvious who is blindly parroting the Huffington post's talking points.

We weren't just discussing method of production. We were talking cost of production and implied level of consumption. If you only focus on efficiency as a dollar cost per unit consumed I believe you are falling into the trap that makes this an unstable system.

Consider that the efficiency you prize in China comes at a cost to the citizens quality of life. Housing and lifestyle options are limited. The country is turning into a waste dump.

Attempting to normalize the cost between a place that dumps into the rivers and a place that treats their water is a reasonable response.

If the automated factories were placed here would all the manufacturing jobs return? Nope.. but we'd have more people building and upgrading robots that work in the factories, more janitors cleaning up, more accountants tracking inventory...

The decrease in efficiency would result in lower consumption overall, but so does having a bunch of underemployed people. With transit costs, underemployment, inefficiency of training, capital asset purchases, retaliatory tariffs, I don't think I'm qualified to answer the question 'is it good or bad?'. But I bet you aren't either. So the electoral body signed up to try, I guess we see what happens

There was never a claim in the OP that jobs were a problem. The argument was for the foolishness of middle-class whites. You may as well have given me the quarterly sales figures of dentures. Your attempt to move the goalposts were noted, and summarily called out.

>racism/xenophobia, homophobia, and a pathetic admiration for rich white Republicans, who just see them as pawns

This, poor rich-wannabe white thrashes are so deluded thinking Trump will take care of plebs like them, billionaires always despise the poor working class.
Bernie was their only hope, he could cover the wide margins between rich-wannabe and poor.

0>Honestly, is there any group more stupid than the lower class blacks? They have consistently voted against their economic interests for decades now out of welfare, health care, anglophobia and a pathetic admiration for rich white democrats, who just see them as pawns

>I am not sure what these lower class people of colour expect to happen. Where are the "gibs" they talk about going to come back from?

>Do they expect that Clinton is going to pass legislation so that it suddenly becomes more economical again for a company to have a US-based factory where they pay Americans a livable wage than it is to have a Chinese factory where they pay children peanuts?

>Do they think 12 million people will be deported, a wall will be built and maintained, and now all those people of colour trying to get landscaping jobs in Southern California and Texas will finally be able to without competition from John?

And let me just say what an over defensive faggot you must be to automatically assume I read Cuckington Post just because I make note of your idiocy.

The point should be you will not be missing him, business will continue, investments will be made.

Allegations about pedophilia are still to be proven.

It might come as a stunning surprise to you, but lots of people are craving for a policy that puts it's voters on the front row. Invest in them.

I'm not afraid of the future, in Europe the same is being heard in the streets, informed people do not fear him, we understand his views. It's now up to him to make sure that policy is put in place where Americans can feel confident they are put in front of global agenda.

Here in Europe we also feel betrayed by our politicians. We want Europe to thrive, it doesn't mean breaking with the rest of the world, but maybe revisiting agreements made. Focusing on the people not the politicians.

Si patron

HAHA BASED LEAF

Wrecked and shreked

Cuck. What do you think will happen when trump fixes NAFTA and brings manufacturing back to the USA? Also who's going to build his wall? Jobs faggot

OPs claim is that they "vote against their economic interest" which implies that their economic situation would change based on who they voted for. Not to mention that he repeatedly uses "do they think" "do their expect" implying that they actually give a fuck about any of this.

They still paying you CTR shills after the loss? You're holding on to a lost cause. The meme war is coming to a close, as valient , and you're slowly surrounded, and despite your valiant efforts to hold on, you will eventually be exterminated.

Intellectuals are the bane of the western world, and that's the truth

I seriously like the way you think. People need to realize that "not letting people do whatever they want" =/= evil

>factory jobs come back a bit
>they pay slightly above minimum wage because the bar is set so low and most of the work is monotonous monkey work
>they get an extra 200 bucks a year in taxes from the tax cut

they voted for their own interests, their interests are retarded and nostalgia

If you deport mexicans some people have to get their jobs

>Hillary got the college-educated vote

>which implies that their economic situation would change based on who they voted for
Incorrect. It would imply they BELIEVE their economic situation would change based on the candidate they elect. The entire frame of this argument is based on the inference that middle-class whites are unhappy with the current job rates. A correct inference I might add, given that jobs is a huge part of Trump's platform. And the inference that they believe voting for Trump is a step in the right direction in fixing them.

>Not to mention that he repeatedly uses "do they think" "do their expect" implying that they actually give a fuck about any of this
Explain exactly what you don't believe they are interested in. Because if it is jobs, they absolutely do.

Trump will do the best he can for them.

But
>Republican house
>Republican senate
>Republican supreme court
Yeah, they are totally fucked.
Not even The Donald can save them now.

you're stupid

>Hillary got the college-educated vote
>not the electoral college vote
>electoral college confirmed not educated

fuck you burger, Southern Pride worldwide
Iberians are master race

You don't know how capitalism works do you?

>Do they think 12 million people will be deported, a wall will be built and maintained, and now all those Americans trying to get landscaping jobs in Southern California and Texas will finally be able to without competition from Jose?

Did you think 16 months ago that Trump could win the nomination, even the presidency?

Trump thought about the presidency for 30 years, there is probably no other president who was more prepared for the presidency than him. He can do it, and he will do it.

>i know the intentions of these voters because they are white

You're part of the problem

Truly amazing the bubble you live in. A question for your massive iq is..why do companies move abroad to manufacture? Is it
A. Federal laws so extreme that the cost of manufacturing is hugely expensive
B. Ensure only union jobs that limit flexibility and movement increase the costs of jobs
C. Restrict the creation of jobs outside a sphere of influence to ensure the company has to continually pay back via taxes to politicians to ensure survival
D. Deny workers the right to make their own decision cos you know better
E. all of the fucking above
I am sure your paper based degrees will have some slick muh union job saves abuse or some other bollocks your professor who never worked a fucking day will tell you to say.

Hey sparky let me tell you a few truths from someone 30 years in business
Get the fuck out of the way you useless cunt. Stop creating 9gorillion fucking petty rules that save giant corps cos they pay you more to leave them alone and make you feel good about yourself at the wine parties
The world is about to undergo a massive technology shift with both IT systems all the way to 3d printing and your solution is to hobble US firms to insist lgbt toilet sharing? Do you think the Chinese give a fuck about lgbt toilets...yet you come in here on your 1000 dollar iPhone and high fucking morals to insult workers. Fuck you. If you care about workers don't buy your iPhone you fucking lib cunt.

No your answer is to insult the very people who support the whole fucking edifice because they didn't vote for your candidate and her bullshit glass ceiling. Here a home truth about business you didn't hear in gender studies..you know who I hire to work..the best person to do the job. Don't give a flying fiddler's fuck if they are male, female,lgbt or a fucking martian. Do the job you get paid...

You smug cunt and I am so glad you got a taste of the shit you have spread. So here is the deal..you created trump..you created the people who voted for him. Own it