King of the Hill

Why does John Redcorn claim to be from a tribe that either went extinct or was assimilated by other tribes?

He isn't?

Chicks really dig you when you're the last of something.

I'm the last person with good taste. :^)

When was the last time you met two indians?
Like, have you ever seen an indian family just chillin at red lobster?

Depends on the part of the country really.

>claims to be a member of the anazasi, a civilization that disappeared nearly a thousand years ago

His real tribe is either something bitch-tier like the pueblo or he doesn't know/care

>Why does John Redcorn claim to be from a tribe that either went extinct or was assimilated by other tribes?
they probably did that just to avoid any issues with associating him with a real tribe, especially since one of his core traits is being an adulterer

He is really a Mexican.

I have actually, it was Texas Roadhouse though not Red Lobster.
Doesn't change the fact that despite living in Ohio I have seen more australian aborigines in my life than natives.

Was there ever any mention of him talking to any other indians?

flashbacks with an elder and maybe some mention of tribal meetings

I saw a group of natives in a food court the other day. Then again I live in Canada; natives are like black people here.

I've been told that the ubiquitous obese mexicans where I live are actually native americans.
They look like those dolls you make by stuffing pantyhose fucking full of stuffing and twisting it. They literally could not get more fat without bursting I think. Not like obese white poeple who become tubs of flub, these people are just inflated. They look like potatoes.

what are the abbos like over there in burgerland?

The ones I've met were second generation immigrants and lacking in even an accent, they were polite enough.
Nothing like the horror stories I hear from aussies.

>When was the last time you met two indians?

As someone who's lived on the east coast his whole life, never. I've never even seen Natives in person before. They're like Mountains and polar bears; something that only exists in movies and pictures.

>Nothing like the horror stories I hear from aussies.
Like what?

Straya land abbo's are basically backwards trailer trash who huff gasoline to get high and set fire to the brush to hunt lizards. So, pretty much the native stereotype in NA and Canada too

Why is that I wonder? The lack of native Americans on the east coast, I mean.

Like, his elder when he was younger.
The point was that, while he respects and believes in honoring his ancestry, it's honestly just some handsome asshole who fucks peoples wives because he never did anything with his life.

He even admits as much several times; especially in the dream quest episode.

It's a crying shame

>Straya land abbo's are basically backwards trailer trash who huff gasoline to get high and set fire to the brush to hunt lizards.
Jesus, is the whole country either dangerous animals or mad max?

Probably has something to do with them all literally being hunted to extinction or forced to move to Oklahoma.

Turns out that, even though I'm a collective 1/4 Native American, I can't legally claim it, because I wasn't born on a reservation and my ancestors managed to escape the Trail of Tears, so that delegitimized them as "real" Natives according to the Department of Interior.
In other words, you're only legally a Native is your ancestors where cattle-driven out west.

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That just sounds like rednecks to me. And last time I checked, we were suppose to be in awe of the True American Grit™ they represent.

>Why is that I wonder? The lack of native Americans on the east coast, I mean.

Because there are scarce, to none, reservations on the east coast for them to live in.

>I wasn't born on a reservation and my ancestors managed to escape the Trail of Tears, so that delegitimized them as "real" Natives according to the Department of Interior.
>In other words, you're only legally a Native is your ancestors where cattle-driven out west.
Man, that is fucked.

>stingrays next to steven irwin

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>that reservation right outside of Tennessee
I bet Andrew Jackson shakes his fist at it every morning when Satan shoves coal up his cock.

The Cherokee were only from Georgia area. Got told to fuck off when someone found gold. Funny enough they tried acting like white people in hopes of one day joining American society on equal terms. Fuckers would buy slaves and do what whites did.

>when Satan shoves coal up his cock.
Ouch.

I don’t think Andrew Jackson is in hell. I feel like he’s somehow just a ghost who haunts purely out of spite or his adopted Native son got him a pass.

Haunting the White House sounds more like something he'd do.

Probably floats around whispering slurs into the ears of each president.

I prefer people use the term native american because i have litterally met more (India)ns than native americans and i live in the South.

Where's the birds?

Ain't straya without the birds that thing your bike helmet is a sign of aggression and dive bomb you

Lots of tribes did that.

>yfw many of the slave owners on the french colony of Haiti were black

>Probably floats around whispering slurs into the ears of each president.
Probably had a field day when obama was in office

Probably probably easier to just claim something people have heard of than it is to explain that you're really a Coahuiltecan from the Miakan/Garza-Band for the billionth time to some one who won't even remember what you said 5 seconds after you finish your answer.

I feel like he'd be more mad about the banks than Obama being black

He probably wants him back; can you imagine Jackson having to share the White House with a bigger blowhard than himself?

Obama bailed out that banks, so he'd be TURBO mad.

Exactly

Eh, obama was such a cuck he let republicans walk all over him instead of sending hitman to kill republicucks blocking everything he does in congress. Trump is worse desu

Besides the ones that assimilated and mixed with whites, there was this little event called the Trail of Tears.

>Mexicans where I live are actually native Americans
Maybe.
My family are Quiche (Guatemalan Indians) and can speak the language, my mom's side is Nahua and I can speak Nahuatl pretty decently. According to Mexican law, I can be considered Indigenous, but not in the US were I have lived 95% of my life.
And no I'm not undocumented in case you ask.

I want you to imagine a Nigger.
Not just a black guy, but the realized concept of a Nigger in the flesh.
Abbos are the Niggers of Niggers.
There are literal PSAs telling them that it's a bad idea to take a nap on a highway.
They had to change the fuel used in areas with high Abbo populations because they would break into the pipelines to steal the gasoline to huff it.

Arent most mexicans native blood though? Pretty sure the aztecs count as native americans. Native south americans, anyway. they can't be too dissimilar to the natives living on the same continent.

What you're seeing is famine genetics. Lotta 'first nation' peoples who didn't get a whole lot of food in their genetic history adapted by being able to store fats and sugars really well.
unfortunately in the modern world all this translates to is a predisposition to obesity and diabetes.

Mexico only considers you native if an Indigenous community (pueblo) claims you and you can speak a native language.
The benefits are pretty crap anyway.

The US government actually decides who is native or not. They even have the power to dissolve recognition or tribal status. Which means that the tribe members could lose any tribal or reservation rights they have like casinos, education benefits, etc. I forgot which tribe it was but one of them pays out its members $3,500 a month as part of casino shares. The government has also placed in laws that tribes must have a blood quantum or ancestry minimum that the previous user mentioned. To be native you must belong to a tribe, be able to prove it through ancestry and be a certain minimum of said ancestry. You also can't hold two tribal memberships so Native children of mixed tribes can only recognize one of their parent's tribes. Keep in mind that the blood quantum system ignores the fact that many tribes like the Comanche and Apache adopted other tribe children and white children into their tribes. Its basically another way that the BIA maintains controls over natives.

John Redcorn really didn't deserve a happy ending
bittersweet ending at best like he was going to get
still being able to pass on his land to his sonbut his son still is taking another man's name
not the ending where he gets to be a successful children's entertainment star then producer who even gets his own family with another women he had an affair with and his own daughter

Yes. And no one today can really be considered Aztec (Mexica). People that can speak Nahuatl (the language of the Mexica) are called Nahuas and whatever fucking region/pueblo they are from. I would be considered Tlamacazapa Nahua or Balsa Nahua, the town my grandparents are from or the river that runs nearby and is used to lump in all northern highland Guerrero Nahuas together.
This is true of virtually every other group in Mexico below the border. The only differences are the Indians living near the US, like the Yaquis. They kinda copy the US model but Mexico and Mexicans (both Indigenous and not) don't give a fuck about that.
We don't do blood quantum because if we did, 90% of Mexicans would be native American.

indian reservations don't count user

There's a shit ton of indians dude

They just call themselves "Hispanic" now which is embarrassing to actual hispanic people, aka, white spaniards

First of all most Latin Americans don't see themselves as Indians, most Indigenous people in LA wouldn't see them as fellow Indians either, neither would their governments, nor natives in the US. And they wouldn't be Indigenous even if they did, because in LA it's more of a cultural thing. Thank the Hispanics you love dping you so much for that.

Second, that bullshit term was incorrectly used by Nixon. No one in Latin America uses that term. Latin Americans in the US only use it because they were told to use it by the US government, retard.

Third, you're a retarded idiot from nu Sup Forums and you have to go back.

Post was meant for this guy.

Clearly you've never been to Arizona.

>Barack Obama had to spend 8 years being woken up thirteen times a night to a voice on the edge of the wind calling him a field nigger.
>It got so bad that into his second term, Obama developed a stutter from the constant sleep derivation.,

Way back in my elementary school, there was this fat, white kid who was supposedly an Indian. You wouldn't be able to tell, but his parents and school always pointed it out to us. 'This kid is a Indian. He's an Indian. By the way, this fatto is an Indian. Indian, Indian, Indian.' Hell, we even had a play based on Indians and he was the main role in it.
I wonder if that kid really was an Indian in the end.

Could be. I knew an Amuzgo who was fluent in two native languages, Amuzgo and Nahua, and had blue eyes and blonde hair. He had typical Indian hair and short stature.

Goddamn was he one of the best lays of my life. The kid knew how to ride a cock like a porn star and was so sexually deprived because his community was homophobic as fuck. Fucked him twice everyday when I was on vacation in Acapulco.

I can’t remember if I have but I think in elementary. Comanche I believe. I live in Texas so they aren’t really big but they’re around. I know the tonkowa’s here are secluded but own the land where camp tonkowa is.

My dad also says I’m related to Quanah Parker but I’ve been skeptical about that since I can’t find much on it. He did have white wife though Anne Parker

>claims to be a member of the aryan race

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I don't think I've ever even seen one native american irl. Except those fags that are like 2% and still consider themselves native american.

isn't this a Dave Chappelle joke that Carlos Mencia stole?

Mexicans and "native" Americans are the same, most "native" indians/Americans lived in between the (now) boarder of Arizona, new Mexico,and Texas. Some even lived closer to south America and travelled up to Oregon and even Canada. Then the land was walled off leaving some north of the wall, and some south. As for John Redcorn (you know, who the thread is about.) He is the token character, he is a "glimpse" of what most Texans deal with when it comes to natives, i.e. Kahn for Asians, Berine Macs mailman character for blacks, and John Redcorn for natives. But more importantly it's supposed to show that people are just people, no not all rednecks are hic stupid wife beaters, not all Asians are accepting open loving other Asians, and no not all Native Americans are respectful pure good people.

As for his tribe, they where around just never depicted with other characters in the show has the cast had no real reason to interact with them.

I feel like a cartoon set in a native reservation could be pretty neat.

Magpies will dive bomb you to protect their nests.
Helmets aren't a deterrant but they help stop you from getting messed up.

Chris Rock, actually.

The only native american people I know are white, and vegetarian.

Damn that sucks. I read somewhere before that a lot of native americans are picky about ‘cultural assimilation’ and don’t want white people trying to share or adopt certain aspects of their culture without express permission. I figured that if my culture were in the same state I’d want to fling whatever I could to whoever would take it in hopes of preserving some shit as long as possible. But this stuff kinda puts their thinking in better perspective.

>not all Asians are accepting open loving other Asians
In what mirror universe is this a stereotype?

Well nobody likes white people trying to be a part of their shit

Japan doesn’t seem to mind. I know they’re still xenophobic and don’t want white people moving into their nieghborhood or anything, but if a white girl wants to wear a kimono they’ll gladly sell her one.

Depends on the reservation
The Navajo Reserve is just a shit hole and it’s honestly kind of depressing

Wait American Indians won't sell white people shit?
I know the natives in Mexico will sell anyone anything, they are too poor to give a shit about some libtard in UNAM yelling about cultural appropriation.

>most "native" indians/Americans lived in between the (now) boarder of Arizona, new Mexico,and Texas.

Are you saying that a large number of Native Americans are mexicans that stuck around and called themselves natives or are you saying that native americans only lived in the southwest United States?

Not him, by I know alot of Natives that don't count the Yaquis as Native Americans and call them Mexicans (it's kinda true) and are butthurt the US government recognized them as an official tribe.

Mexico being a nationality and Native American being an ethnic category leads to some weirdness cross borders.

The majority of Mexicans are what we in the states would called mixed race, called Mestizo. But there are white Mexicans as well as full native (indios) Mexicans as well. Black Mexicans (negro) and such. All because of the spanish caste system that put everyone into racial categories that got more autistic as more and more categories had to be invented because people became different mixes of multiple things. Most Mexicans are a mix of something though, so mestizos.

But America has it's own racial autism that's different from the latin american world. When Mexicans come here, regardless of their race, they are just Mexicans and thus automatically put into the 'brown' category. Brazilians are all 'part black', etc. So a full-native who is Mexican in one country becomes something confusing in another.

Also means white Mexicans lose their whiteness when they come here and native mexicans lose the stigma of being native as well, so now you got Mexicans looking at their native roots more than you might expect in Mexico itself.

The legacy of the Spanish Caste system fucks people up really good even to this day.

>Arent most mexicans native blood though?
Yes, the vast majority are the result of Spaniards fucking native americans some centuries ago.
>Native south americans, anyway
Aztecs and Mayas were in North and Central America. Incas were in South America.

>Also means white Mexicans lose their whiteness when they come here and native mexicans lose the stigma of being native as well, so now you got Mexicans looking at their native roots more than you might expect in Mexico itself.
Yeah but then you get retarded white looking (and clearly overwhelmingly of Spanish descent) Chicanos calling themselves natives even though they don't the first thing what it means to be native in the US or Mexico.
I'm glad American Indians call these assholes out. Take it from someone that gets told that "I'm pretty smart for an Indian" (I attend UCLA and to many Mexicans that is pretty much Harvard to them) a lot by urban folks when I visit my home state, there's nothing pleasant about being native, in North America or south of it.

That's the frybread diet for you. That shit has killed more Indians than the US Army.

Not even frybread. It's just shitty genetics and survival adaptations that don't translate too well in today's modern sedentary world of abundant food. I had an uncle, Nahua, go on a diet. Poor bastard ate 1/3 of my portion sizes and yet gained weight, while me with some white blood gained nothing.

Well, that's more evidence of nationality and ethnicity getting mixed up.

If you are adopted by a native family, are you a native? If you white and from Mexico, does you nationality include Nahua heritage?
If your family lived in New York city for 200 years, at what point does 'New Yorker' become an ethnicity?

Complicated shit, yo.

I prefer American Indian myself. "native american" just sounds too generic.

I like 'Amerindian'.

>Complicated shit, yo.
It is. But I know two brothers from Jalisco, one is my best friend, the other I despise for being a shitty larper.
Their dad claims that their great grandma was an Otomi that their great grandpa raped and was forced to marry her.
My friend counts himself as Mexican and that's it. He could easily pass as white with his fair skin and hazel eyes and light brown hair.
His brother being Xicanx scum that he is calls himself Otomi. Even though he knows shit about being Otomi or any Indigenous group for that matter.


I don't count blood on you being Indigenous, I consider it if you were brought up in it or adopted into the culture. That's why I have no issues with European looking natives, as long as it seems they know shit about their culture and not crap some racist queer lesbian Xican@ made up her in crap book.

Yeah, in Clear Lake. Thing is most of them have serious heroin issues. All they have around there are casinos. I saw a guy get thrown out with his son and they knew him on a first name basis. It was really sad.

Watch a day with out a Mexican it explains it all

Yes.
No and especially no.
I don't know.

Oh they'll sell people shit alright, it's just that US Amerindians still give a shit about ceremonial and status-bearing items and don't want white people fucking around with them.

I know some of them sell fake trinkets with no meaning, but then some of them turn around snd get pissy if you are genuinely interested in their culture but don’t properly toe the line and show reverence. It’s weird to me.

>If you white and from Mexico, does you nationality include Nahua heritage?

No way to win. Say one thing and you get called a Spaniard LARPer, say another and you get called an Aztec LARPer.

Where I live that's all I ever seen them doing, going to schools and state fairs and showing off Cherokee shit. That's why that "cultural appropriation" shit never really made sense to me, all the natives around my area seem to love sharing their culture.

Yes, but I'm drowning. Arizona.

Canadian here with some 'First Nations' experience: Natives are on the fast track to extinction, culturally speaking that is; they'll still be around as a 'people', but they lose more and more of their cultural identity, practices, and so forth every generation as they refuse to fucking teach anyone anything and basically rot in stagnation, depression, alcoholism, and so on.

It isn't even their total lack of community integrity that's the problem, but their blatant disregard, xenophobia, and refusal to teach and assimilate westerners into their cultural practices. They're going to fucking die out, their culture is going to cease to exist, because they refuse to share any of it or have white people participate in it because they have such a massive fucking chip on their shoulder about how they were 'assimilated'.

They're going to cut off their nose to spit their face because they fell down and made the conscious decision to not get back up again and good fucking riddance at this point. Not apology is good enough for them, no amount of support will ever fucking fix them, the only cultural identity they're interested in being is a victim, a parasite, a great big pile of shit who refuses to learn from the past.

I can see that at least one person has a chip on their shoulder.