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How is he going to manage the massive uproar when the rust belt and beyond realize it's not going to happen?
Yeah guys... about that
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How is he going to manage the massive uproar when the rust belt and beyond realize it's not going to happen?
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Before people not knowing any shit about automation start posting, watch this video before you start spouting idiotic shit.
Best case for him is that a few years' worth of job programs will push this problem off to the next president. Worst case: he won't.
Worst case is most probable. Even fast food is quickly moving towards automation.
He'll fix the jobs issue by massacre in undesirables. The irony is massacreing the undesirables to fix the jobs problem will fix the jobs problem.
A bunch of neckbeards and futurists thinking that muh jobs will be gone in 5 years.
It's a con to sell tech. I work in a cutting edge manufacturing plant, and my job will sooner be shipped to a 3rd world than a robot doing it.
This is due to many reasons. Major point though, robots aren't that great at doing anything besides extremely SIMPLE & RECEPTIVE TASKS
Physical equipment will probably be the barrier before software. Once AI arrives I believe we're all fucked, however the physical equipment isn't all that great for the cost. Yes welding robots are cheap as fuck. It's a simple repetitive task in a mass production environment. It's no different than CNC replacing machinists. Just because we have weld bots and CNC machines doesn't mean the equipment isn't shit & overpriced.
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Excellent video on the subject. Realistic, and he's no futurist neckbeard.
I know we're on Sup Forums but this isn't a fantasy thread. He'd be impeached in a heartbeat if he did anything like that
Even automated factories like Adidas plans to do in Germany is better than no factory at all.
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Nobody can bring back dozens of thousands of industrial jobs but you could bring businesses back.
Automation is unavoidable, would you rather have robots at home or abroad ? The money you spend on foreign goods and services isn't coming back, you'd be better off if it was reinvested and spent at home.
>faggot businesses try to stop Trump
>he creates business programs to help startups in the U.S. if they agree to hire citizens only and stay in the U.S.
>corporations start fucking failing
You're ignoring the type of robots in this video:
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Regardless of whether or not your job goes, the thousands upon thousands of jobs that will go are still inevitable. Which is a problem.
Well you can start smaller shoe factories and refuse to buy from Adidas
The customer has all the power in this situation
>cutting edge manufacturing plant
Well no shit, your job is more advanced. We're talking about simple shit, like driving trucks, moving shipping containers, waiters in restaurants, assembly lines.
These jobs will gradually be replaced in the next 10 years. And after that, jobs like nurses, surgeons, lawyers will get replaced by automation.
>but muh mechanics and supervisors
First, there will be robots to fix other robots
Second, there might be 1 human to supervise around 100 robots or more. That is 1 jobs created for at least 100 lost.
This will displace a huge portion of the workforce.
Guess what? The assembly lines aren't going anywhere, except china or india, before robots.
I'm trying to think of the word for the Japanese manufacturing that makes robots costs ineffective. It's not lean, I can't think of it though.
Basically the concept is, it's easier to throw a line up, throw people at it, and then you can change over to new model production every year or so.
It's very difficult to automate a product that is constantly having new models every 2-5 years.
Until AI is involved, humans will be doing the job. The amount of tooling, programming, and engineering involved overall makes it cost too much to automate without AI.
There's general purpose robots who can see and have arms (can be more than one). It can be taught to do routines by the user, such as pouring wine from a bottle into a cup, or screwing on a bolt.
These robots will become better and cheaper to make. And their wages will be few cents of the electric bill. And they don't have to eat, take a break, go the bathroom, go to sleep, sue the workplace if they suffer injury or potentially die too.
I never understood why you faggots are all worried about automation. If you were smart you would go to school for automation engineering and related fields so you can capitalize on the boom.
But the more important part is we don't know what the future holds and humans are geniuses at figuring out and solving issues. If you told slaveholders in 1870 that in a couple decades slaves would be obsolete when there's big mechanical farm equipment that will do the job even more efficiently and quickly, they would laugh at you.
Stop freaking the fuck out and let the market figure it out as it always has done.
Once again, we are talking about EXTREMELY, repetitive tasks. I cannot stress this enough. You would be amazed at the amount of nuances required to assemble some things.
I work in the automotive industry by the way, and not at an auto-plant, for a tier one supplier.
Our parts might be naturally a pain to automate, but either way, I don't see the auto plants getting completely automated either
>Which is a problem.
Not really, I think once we reach a point where everyone can see how robots are taking over the entire workforce we will be able to change the way our society works. Having robot slaves is a long way away though.
It's not just manufacturing on the line.
IBM's Watson is going after diagnostics, which could replace thousands of DOCTORS in the near future.
No one is looking at the huge economic issue we're going to be coming up against in the next decade.
To maintain a robust free market, we have to institute a basic income, full stop. I'm hoping the kek emperor himself will push for this in his next 8-1000 year dynasty.
>nurses surgeons doctors replaced
No I think the AI for those will be for monitoring or just help doctors out. Wont replace them.
It's inevitable robots will become better, with more dexterous fingers and arms, better sensors, and better AI that can handle very complex tasks.
This year, Google's Go bot beat a world class champion in a game that's more complex than Chess.
Why do socialists always have to push their crap. Can't you have fucking patience? When we actually have robot slaves you can talk about UBI.
UBI isn't socialism. It's going to be increasingly necessary to support a free market.
You can cut welfare and social security, end homelessness, and prepare our nation for massive automation of the workforce. that's fucking maga.
Maybe so, but you neckbeards/futurists wanting to be on the cutting edge are looking way too far in the future. Chill out.
Same with automated cars, I don't think it will be here as soon as people think. While the auto industry bureaucracy is reactionary (unlike aviation), I do think the bureaucracy will get in the way.
Even then, people won't mass adopt them. Once it's proven to be safer than humans driving, the insurance companies will lobby the government to make it illegal to drive your own car.
This is my opinion
Or we can just wait until it is an actual issue, it's not even close to one yet.
>Wants Trump to lose
>Doesn't tell uneducated people about automation until 1 day after the election.
If you have even an ounce of faith in exponential advancement in technology, you should understand that we can't wait until it's an issue. Because by then it will have already fucked the economy and millions of americans.
Because it is a non-issue and this is just a desperate attempt to make people regret their vote.
Not to mention robots break all the dam time.
YOUR JOB WILL BE TO BUILD AND MAINTAIN THOSE ROBOTS
Between Hillary and Trump, I'd guess Trump is a lot more likely to deal with the issue. No regrets here.
Fuck off Japan, just because your economy is based on vending machines doesn't mean that a sustainable economic system elsewhere
I'm not saying all jobs will be replaced in a instant. It'll be a gradual change in the next 10 years with transportation, retail, secretaries, cashiers, receptionists, bookkeeping, accountants. That's millions of jobs.
IBM's doctor bot Watson can read all the latest research journals and literature, know about every medicine's side effects and reactions with other drugs, know all the diseases and symptoms, and give a more accurate diagnosis than a human doctor. It's already at work in a hospital for diagnosing lung cancer treatments.
In the future, it'll be an app you'll have on your phone.
Also, surgeries are mostly done with machines. Surgeon operators will become obsolete when these machines can do it by themselves.
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