Is Cindy the most underrated princess ever?

Is Cindy the most underrated princess ever?

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Why does she need a sword?

I wouldn't so underrated but I do think people do try to twist what is meant to be a simple message compressed in a way children can understand and highlight some personal ideological differences in the narrative and paint them more extreme then they actually are.

Same with Beauty and the Beast.

Enjoyed that video
I've noticed too that a lot of the time a female character's worth to a general audience is determined by how sassy / badass they are

Because swords are cool.

>Not needing a sword

shes french

So she can shank her stepmother and stepsisters.
Sincerely, I think that a lot of Cinderellla's problems could have been solved with a little murder.

I wonder if she was sexually abused?

those times were crazy especially in France

>those times
850AD to be precise
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ye_Xian

It's believed that the Silk Route brought the story to Europe.

>there will never be a story where Cinderella is a gifted swordsman but still chooses kindness and pacifism

Are there any current female characters that are as gentle or feminine as cinderella?

>850AD
Right in that sweet spot between Ancient Rome and the Renaissance. A real shitty era. Just Christfags and plague.

How is that exclusive to females? People like cool things.

That's how Cinderella's problems began!

Writers can't do sassy females nowadays. Either they go to far and write a borderline psychotic bitch (pic related), or they break the 'show, don't tell' rule and have that character that fails all the time but gets advertised as a badass and competent (again, pic related).

>Detective, the abused stepdaughter is the one survivor of the massacre
>Now, who could our suspect be?

Stop bringing up Korra all the Goddamn time.

What is the message? Belle was proactive but all Cinderella did was suffer in silence until the world started handing her things.

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Cinderella is about how one cannot be pushed down by abuse & poverty. Cinderella was always a beautiful person regardless of how she was dressed.

There isn't much of a call to action other than pull through the tough times & don't forget to be sweet or smile.

korra is such a huge cancer

OBSESSED

>I think that a lot of Cinderellla's problems could have been solved with a little murder
There are probably other versions that do this too, but I know the Vietnamese version of the story has her end up killing her stepsister and her stepmom.

There was a live action adaptation where she could use a sword, yes. Leonardo da Vinci was in it.

I dare you to find a Veitnamese story that doesn't involve killing.

What kind of people spend so much time thinking about this? Does no one have a job or responsibility anymore?

There are less jobs, yes. That's what automation means.

>disney princesses have to save all the princes from maleficent who has mind controlled them all to be her harem

Because womyn needs to be as strong as man! Womyn needs to be man!

test

Does this argument apply to other versions of cinderella?

The anime series was surprisingly good

WOMYN DON'T NEED NO MAN!!!! I'M STRONG!! I'M FIERCE!! I'M INDEPENDENT!!!

See I liked when Mulan was actually kind of clever and instead of beating the villain in a straight fight just said fuck it and dropped a mountain on him and then had her buddy frag him.

Acutally why isn't Mulan more popular? Like why instead of trying to re imagine everything we don't just go, "oh hey Mulan."

she was boring as a character
Mushu and the cricket had more personality

>Disney starts their own animated cinematic universe with their princess lineup
That would be pretty awesome actually.

And the other Princesses weren't? Literlaly almost all of them did nothing but pout abut how life was so unfair that they had zero hardships.

She's literally the only "princess" with an arc and actual sense of agency

>Boring

Mulan was a G. Her use of her surroundings was so fucking based.
>Climbed to the top of a pole by watching others and learning how to avoid their mistakes
>Wiped out most of the Huns by starting an Avalanche
>Defeated Shan-Yu with strategy

What about tiara?

we wanted sassy princess at that time

Swords are cool, so the artist gave her a sword.

>victim
>cheats up her way with magic
>leave dirty rodents roam her house freely spreading a lot of diseases.
Cinderella is probably the worst Disney princess ever, she did nothing on her own, Mulan stopped an invasion to her country, Ariel found love without saying a word, and Bella took the whole knot, Cinderella didn't even finished to mop the floors as she was told.

Excuse me?

I'd be into it if they manage to do it with zero winks and nudges 'this is the opposite of how it usually goes, isn't it audience?' and the men are grateful for being saved and not sexist strawmen
However, I have no faith that they wouldn't do that

>almost all of them
aka "only a really few that I will cherry pick"

That is because the original story is about an underage girl who has no means to get out of her situation. She is too young to be wed away, which is why she only gets the prince by dolling herself up to appear older (and the reason why her tiny shoe doesn't fit any girl in the region that would be old enough to marry the prince). If you age her up while leaving the story unchanged it makes her look like a victim that should be able to do something but doesn't.

Underrated? She is the most liked princess in my region.

Underrated in personality. Most people wouldn't be able to describe her personality or actions in the movie other than 'girly' and 'waits for her prince to come'.

Even as a joke, the fact that she can talk to mice is pretty neat. Or if you'e a Jojo fan, she manifested her own Stand.

Hey now! We can't have Malificent be evil! She was wing raped and therefore justified in her crimes!

This. Mulan failed. Mulan had weaknesses. Mulan overcame. Mulan succeeded. Mulan grew, and found herself.

And it's not like Mulan's story was some new, innovative formula. She had a basic hero's journey. Domestic person, yearns for more. Answers call to action. Faces difficulty, meets mentor, acquired group, etc. etc. All set to music you can really dance to.

Honestly, it makes me wonder why the fuck so few current writers can get this right. At times it seems like if a writer sees a female hero then suddenly they can't put together a coherent story. I think this is a product of the writers trying to overcompensate for their hero being a woman, due to hilariously ironic sexism, and so therefore the hero herself has an attitude of overcompensation, but because the writers themselves are overcompensating the hero never gets to learn and grow from this character flaw, and so she just ends up as nothing but empty hype. All flash, no substance.

Because Disney has partners who don't want Chinese people defying their society to improve it, get my meaning?

>Literlaly almost all of them did nothing but pout abut how life was so unfair that they had zero hardships.

The fuck we're you watching?

>ITT: Murrifats who have never heard of deep psychology interpretation of fairy tales

The people of Sup Forums? We dwell on minutiae all the time, why does it suddenly become a case of "don't you have something better to do?" when it's something like this?

its pretty cut and dry, a prince rescues a poor young, pretty and pure woman from her family full of old ugly evil women
the same way the beauty and the beast is about and young, pretty, smart woman dominating a mean savage man who was too short sighted to rule by himself and needed a woman to control him.

Most disney movies come from old traditional tales, of course they are going to have super consevative messages, how are people surprised by this?

>too short sighted to rule by himself and needed a woman to control him
I don't think his ability as a ruler came into question, it's more about him being a selfish ass.

>I don't think his ability as a ruler came into question
all his servants became furniture and people in the nearby town didnt even know he existed, he was pretty shitty at ruling, he was selfish and egotistical and didnt care about the peasents
wich fair enough its about old values and marriage, god told abraham to find a woman who completed him and become one together (have kids) and that was the birth of the christian marriage and family structure so i dont expect anything else, you arent fully human in cristianity unless you are married

>generic nasuverse girl
Great.

>Cinderella Saber
I would be surprised if they haven't done something like this by now.

IIRC some versions of the tale emphasis this much more than the Disney version.

Aurora and Jasmine didn't do shit either.

I fucking hate Artorias.

Isn't this just Saber?

>Disney prince reverse-harem

>Disney pushes massive amounts of merch for the princesses
>nothing sells
>everyone wants to be Maleficent now
>even the boys

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Jasmine did everything to my dick.

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I love Rapunzel
She did nothing wrong

No.

That's so good
Another edit

Show me your tastes than user.

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Rapunzel is perfect
Just idiots dislike her

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Despite what SJWs say, here's my take:

If your family is being bitches at you when you want to do something that everyone else gets to do, you shouldn't just roll over and take it. Keep the desire in your heart and maybe you'll succeed.

I want Maleficent x Prince harem porn now

Cinderella soldiered on through a life of unceasing abuse without deteriorating into a bitter, ugly fuck like the rest of her family, and instead sustained her good spirit with the mere abstract hope that life wouldn't have to be that awful forever. She never voiced entitlement to gibs or anything, all she wanted was to find and actively seize an opprotunity to escape her situation in that broken household - or at the bare minimum, enjoy ONE decent night in her life to break even on everything she had been through already.

And you know what? Because somehow she managed to hold herself together under that tremendous pressure for so long, Cinderella managed to socially flourish at that ball, and attracted the means towards betterment in her life without even actively conspiring towards it. Do you think that same ending would've occurred if she was some cynical basement dwelling Randroid who squandered her first opprotunity to pass as an equal among royalty by crudely attempting to coerce the Prince into marriage with cheap snake oil sales tactics like everybody else was? Her happy ending wasn't merely brought about conveniently through karma, it happened because she developed into an exceptional individual by staying immaculately kind under circumstances that would've reduced anyone else into an utterly loathsome misery, and in turn this was apparent enough to the Prince to see her as fit to be made Royalty.

>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE THAT CHARACTER DOESN'T COUNT
>THAT ONE EITHER REEEEEEEEEEEE

lol

That sounds fucking crazy.