>I am going to take care of everybody. I don’t care if it costs me votes or not. Everybody’s going to be taken care of much better than they’re taken care of now. The government’s gonna pay for it. But we’re going to save so much money on the other side. But for the most it’s going to be a private plan and people are going to be able to go out and negotiate great plans with lots of different competition with lots of competitors with great companies and they can have their doctors, they can have plans, they can have everything.
Good. Universal health care has some problems but it does work. You never are in a position to choose between getting treatment or paying bills.
Grayson Myers
That article is from September.....of 2015.
Evan Perez
Those who can't afford it already get treated anyway. They just don't ever pay. Hospitals raise their prices to make up for it. Everybody pays for it.
Public insurance for the poor and elderly and private insurance for those who can afford it makes a lot of sense.
Henry Lopez
It was always end game user. Ideally he'll alter the budget so we spend less on foreign aid and more on healthcare
Adam Gutierrez
>univer
We already have Medicare and Medicaid, and our law states that you have to treat anyone if they're in serious enough condition and manage to make it to a hospital.
we already have universal healthcare brah
Luis Morgan
Trump is everything you idiots, nor Rep nor Dem.. haven't you fucks figured that out? He wants to take care of the people, protect the constitution, and make the US great again, he doesn't give a fuck about whats left or right.
Luke Hill
So? That isn't that long ago considering how old he is.
Camden Watson
Yeah, this. We have universal healthcare; it's just poorly organized.
We spend very little on foreign aid.
David White
We're already paying for Medicare and Medicaid, plus ACA makes health insurance mandatory so it's a corporation-based tax with rates going up because we subsidize the tens of millions of useless people.
We already pay for socialized healthcare. Trump's objective is to make the healthcare actually worth what we pay.
Matthew Wilson
You don't understand politics. And you didn't read the art of the deal. You shoot higher than you realistically think you will end up.
Eli Hughes
>needing to spend more than 3% on healthcare to have world class healthcare Lmaoing at you guys right now
Kayden Long
>anyone with serious enough condition
Free ER coverage for the extremely poor isn't universal healthcare. People need to see GP's, get routine physicals, pick up prescriptions, etc.
Josiah Fisher
As long as I get privatized health care as well
Lincoln Rodriguez
I'm actually okay with that. A government that takes so much money should be able to provide healthcare. It's why I liked trump, pre-campaign he was more in the middle so I hope his policies from then get pushed in.
Ayden Moore
I hope it isn't some welfare shit like the UK has. It isn't sustainable.
Ayden Bailey
THIS. THANK YOU.
Ryder Peterson
>our law states that you have to treat anyone if they're in serious enough condition and manage to make it to a hospital.
That's one of the things that makes health care so retardedly expensive for you guys
>guy gets bronchitis >a doctor visit and a $20 round of pills would clear it up >instead he gets sicker and sicker until he's barely able to breathe >what the hell, down to the ER >needs an intensive care bed for days, intravenous antibiotics, monitoring by nurses/doctors, and what could've been a $20 prescription now cost $55,000 to treat >he can't pay >the cost gets diluted into everyone else's bills >this happens thousands of times a day all across the country
You guys could save hundreds of billions a year just from getting rid of this retarded scenario
Christopher Miller
:/
Liam Wright
Universal Healthcare isn't necessarily the "sorry you can't afford insurance now pay our fine" Obama bullshit though.
Brandon Foster
It probably won't be the greatest health care probably just basic stuff but it works for everyone else I think it'll be fine for us.
Colton Hill
Would be vastly more effective than the bad joke that was Obamacare.
Jaxson Cooper
No shit, that's part of why I voted for him. Universal healthcare is a good idea, as long as it isn't going to spics and niggers.
Connor Bennett
so long as he's not an ideologue and comes up with something he thinks is acceptable I'll be not too critical. i just hate the mandate, but I hear he thinks it's important.
Kayden Mitchell
hes going to use the cyber to make healthcare for everyone
Jonathan Garcia
I was at the Iowa Family Leadership Summit where he first hinted that he would be running for President. He absolutely mentioned a favor of universal healthcare, but a loathing of the AHA.
with universal healthcare if you work you pay for it
if you buy something you pay for it
with how it is now illegals can get treated for free and then just go back to mexico and not have to pay a cent
Blake Mitchell
What are you talking about?
You don't have to schedule and appointment to be seen if you are ill. Hell you don't even need to have a doctor you go to,
There's this thing called "urgent care" and it's what everyone goes to if they are sick and need to be treated but not like Emergency room tier sick.
It's like $150 per visit if you don't have insurance but most don't pay anyway and they don't turn away people, at least the one I've been to.
But yeah, if you end up in the ER over pneumonia it's probably that person fault for not going to urgent care when they needed too.
Xavier Jones
I don't care I just want The Wall and better gun rights.
Asher Powell
not providing healthcare, but lots of jobs would be best.
Nathaniel Myers
I'm personally offended that Obama's policies are working out better under Trump.
he might be the greatest president ever desu MAGA I'm sold now
Tyler Martin
>Trump wants universal health care paid for by the government (Republican here)
I want this too. Universal health care was a Republican plan in the 90s that Democrats shit all over.
They were fucking stupid and did it all wrong. It would be amazing if done correctly -- I hope Trump has the nuts to do it.
Chase Martin
>He's a fucking liberal nice going guys. GOOD he's just a woke one
he's what Sup Forums was before the bible thumpers took over
Aiden Gutierrez
MFW when the redpill is that the redpill is a lie and the bluepill is reality redpillers try to escape.
Trump got bluepilled
Jackson Jones
You are never in a position to choose anything about your health care.
Henry Stewart
Reminder that Nixon was working on universal healthcare before Watergate forced him out
William King
the thing is making jobs is hard
real career jobs i mean
universal healthcare is easy in comparison
Brayden Perez
I understand NIxon was a republican, but did you honestly without irony draw a comparison to Nixon.
Brandon Butler
lol is ctr still around why do they keep posting this faggot shit
Colton Garcia
Nixon was a good President you fucking fag
Ryder Jenkins
this
He's a consveratist that adobted the only good points on the liberal agenda, applying them without the ulterior motives of th democrats.
GG America, you truly MAGA'd
Bentley Wright
>2015 Report and hide
Xavier Cox
That's good. I'm a liberal, that's why I voted for Trump over the other war mongering, Wall Street backed, corrupt corporate lapdog.
Aiden Adams
I wonder if the liberals would take universal healthcare in exchange for deporting all illegal immigrants and building the wall?
Jose Moore
cheaper than obamacare
Julian Martinez
>thinking I voted for Trump because he's a republican >being this assblasted
Oliver Carter
We also have some access to private care in canada
If you want privatized care and have the money - you can go out and get it.
If you're a working joe who can't afford to have his broken leg looked at because it'll cost $70,000 USD; not something you need to worry about in Canada.
Canadian healthcare is CHEAPER than american healthcare.
I don't think the canadian system is necessarily the best choice for you guys, but what you have right now is a godfucking broken mess and needs to change.
Gavin Ortiz
Protip:75% of plans from presidential candidates never come to fruition.
Liam Baker
this and this, too
I've never been opposed to universal healthcare, I just know for a fact that illegals would use it and that pisses me the fuck off.
Nathaniel Smith
Well it wasn't really a secret. He literally said he wanted to repeal and replace Obamacare with a different universal health system in his campaign. Have you not been paying attention?
Carson Foster
Good. Health care before Obama was bankrupting people for accidents, and after Obama, it's bankrupting people for preparing for accidents. We need a single payer health care system.
Jacob Fisher
Guess what the 20 million jobs will be.
Blake Flores
This. These threads are pathetic.
Adrian Green
There is literally nothing wrong with this. The only problem with obamacare was that it was the worst of both private and socialized healthcare. Prove me wrong.
2. Donald Trump advocating for open borders and globalism in 2013: "We will have to leave borders behind and go for global unity when it comes to financial stability." "We are now closer to having an economic community in the best sense of the term — we work with each other for the benefit of all," - That's literally trump supporting the same positions of the TPP
3. Trump's true position on citizens united - literally embracing people from citizens united into his campaign. Reminder that citizens united empowers the influence of corporations on the elections.
Relax. Mexico is paying for the wall and Canada will pay for our healthcare.
Easton Barnes
No one is driving costs up because of broken legs. There driving them up because they are fat sacks of shit stuffing thier faces with poison from the time they're 2 years old and ending up with all kinds of diseases and conditions that are thier own fault. Fuck all of them.
Joseph Harris
> Obamacare becomes Trumpcare. > Trump literally emblazons himself in American Policy on par with Social Security.
Make it so.
Samuel Parker
the republican party was founded to fight the tyranny and slavery and unequal rights the democrats wanted
Owen Parker
We already have universal healthcare dumbass. I'm a nurse in an intensive care unit. It's called EMTALA, and it means people get basic care regardless of their ability to pay. It's ass backwards and incredibly inefficient, and that money could easily be put to large extent towards preventative care. There's no simple solution but you're a fool if you don't think we're already doing socialized medicine. The current way is just hamfisted and awful.
Benjamin Green
Learn to fucking drive and walk.
Oliver Bailey
I disagree with Trump on this issue but I still agree with him on many others.
Nicholas Bailey
>people get basic care regardless of their ability to pay then why would anyone get health insurance
Parker Reyes
You're back with this bullshit?
William Smith
Lol good luck putting in single payer when you have pence spreading FUD about """"""SOCIALISED"""" healthcare
Apparently leaving people to die is the "American way"
Noah Martinez
I'm a national socialist- do you think this isn't music to my ears?
Trump is becoming more of a god every moment he just doesn't stop winning.
Cameron Green
>They still don't have universal health care >They still don't use metric Silly Americans.
Joshua Taylor
Because EDs only ensure you're stable. They don't do preventative care, they don't do long term medications or treatments. Also people like not being bankrupt for the most part. If you already are though...
We had to start locking all doors on the interior side for a reason.
Pic related called it. Trump is a fascist (in its actual meaning). He is a nationalist and a pragmatist, not an ideologue.
He has some very good palaeo-libertarian policies (which is why palaeo-libertarians like me support him) but he is not completely allergic to utilizing government pragmatically.
Lincoln Evans
This is fucking great. Going MAGA will have growing pains. Trump is not only going to get rid of the Obamacare mess but he will have it better than before. It can be subsidized, universal, various of other changes. Give Trump a chance and hear him out when he's in power and proposing it.
William Baker
>Repeal and Replace Obamacare Act. Fully repeals Obamacare and replaces it with Health Savings Accounts, the ability to purchase health insurance across state lines, and lets states manage Medicaid funds. Reforms will also include cutting the red tape at the FDA: there are over 4,000 drugs awaiting approval, and we especially want to speed the approval of life-saving medications.
>Affordable Childcare and Eldercare Act. Allows Americans to deduct childcare and elder care from their taxes, incentivizes employers to provide on-side childcare services, and creates tax-free Dependent Care Savings Accounts for both young and elderly dependents, with matching contributions for low-income families.
We already have universal health care, retard. It's just dogshit.
Lincoln Collins
Sounds good
Juan Gomez
>>Trump wants universal health care paid for by the government
Awesome. So my mother who is riddled with health problems from a life time of being working class can get good health care without bankrupting herself.
And I get suppressors without a tax stamp when the Hearing Protection Act passes next year!
This sounds like a great thing.
Jackson Allen
I don't know if his plans will work. I do know Obamacare as it currently exists is an unmitigated disaster. Hospitals serving primarily low income folks are going bankrupt and are cutting staff to skeleton crews, which increases burnout and the likelihood of medical errors. It's why hospitals in NYC proper and rural America both are largely understaffed (biggest expense for any hospital is paychecks). Medicaid and Medicare do not cover the expenses, and you can only write of so much to charity.
Landon Flores
>all this flipflop
Thomas Parker
>People need to see GP's This.
Every time someone brings up that people can't be turned away at ERs and that poor people are driving up costs by not being able to afford health care are ignoring that subsidized PREVENTATIVE CARE would be orders of magnitude cheaper than just letting the poors go to the ER when they finally pass the point of being able to ignore health problems.
If you've ever been not wealthy in the US then you very likely have experienced a situation where your family has tried their best to ignore health care issues until they finally had to go to the ER.
Nolan Cooper
>He's a fucking liberal
No, he's an old-school Republican. Nice try though.
Andrew Davis
>people get basic care regardless of their ability to pay then why would anyone get health insurance
Dominic Phillips
Literally every other 1st world western country has this.
welcome to this century.
The niggers and spics already get free healthcare so should all the whites.
Zachary Torres
Shows he's a flip-flopper and might secretly be a liberal. He was a Democrat once.
Freedom ain't free. Survival of the fittest. I don't want my tax dollars going to niggers and the elderly.
Jeremiah Gonzalez
>The niggers and spics already get free healthcare so should all the whites
This was pretty much Bernie's platform but Democrats decided that was racist.
Zachary Perez
>It's like $150 per visit
That's $150 that doesn't go towards a car payment, gas money to make it to and from work, groceries for a week or two depending on the size of your family, phone bill (don't even pretend that someone could survive in the working class today without a form of communication), part of rent for housing etc.
For the majority of people that $150 for an urgent care visit has to come from somewhere. And for most people that have that concern, they're going to put it off until they no longer can because they need that $150 somewhere else.
Brayden Richardson
Yep, I see this happen a lot (in Florida). Not many people do check ups.
Daniel Rodriguez
This. Trump is a Republican from a hundred years ago but modernized for now: socially liberal, economically centrist, and strongly nationalist and populist.
Ryan Butler
We already knew he was going to change obama care into something else, something better than the shit system we had before and the shit system obama created. What else would he have changed it to? Sounds like he's not getting rid of the private system either, so win-win if he can get it to work.
and why would you try that "no true conservative" shit here? fuck true conservatives. cancerous neo-liberal-like pieces of shit.
Caleb Cook
WRONG
David Brooks
>Freedom ain't free. Survival of the fittest.
So I can kill you and take your stuff then. I mean if we're going to try to be Randian about this, I can just get together some of my fellow GWOT veteran friends who are also working class, and we can just steam roll you and take your stuff.
Tyler Carter
This is the case in EDs everywhere in the country, and why people complain about long waits. Urgent care clinics are a great idea but because they require money up front many people will never use them, especially those who need them most.
Zachary Russell
Repeal and replace Obamacare with Health Savings Accounts (HSAs).
why not just look at what he actually has put on his website?
Yeah, he's not an idealogue. He's a pragmatist. At his core, he is an American nationalist. He wants policies that are good for the country and the people without kowtowing to donors or corporate lobbyists.
Daniel Ramirez
Good better than Obamacare
Daniel Davis
This. Universal healthcare is generally a good thing in theory. Here in Sweden, it's... Well, it's good per see, the problem however is that our doctors are drowning in paperwork which sadly leads to obnoxiously long waiting times.
Universal healthcare will of course always have a bit longer wait times but I suggest you try and look into how to reduce paperwork, at least for doctors, as to avoid getting waiting times that are simply too long. Universal Healthcare can at least potentially help reduce costs on society (Hard to work if you're sick/broken and some I imagine live off social security instead) but I can't say if the reduced costs would outweigh the costs for Universal healthcare. At least it would help reduce it.
Wish you the best in the US and hope that the health care will work out.
Jayden Reyes
I'm ok with it. Just build the damn wall! Or at least enforce immigration laws.
Angel Campbell
>wants healthcare like literally the rest of the first world so that it wont cost fifty-thousand dollars to get an x-ray anymore
>F-Fucking liberals
Owen Wilson
Not everyone is a city state Mormons and some christians churches alredy have their special insurance and universal healthcare.It was a bunch of catholics and monarchists the ones that pushed universal healthcare first
Liam Howard
You can't have national healthcare when you have open boarders, you think things are bad NOW wait until you get millions of illegals pouring through just to get surgery at taxpayers expense, and there's no means to vet them in time. Health Tourism is real, ask the UK.
>Citizens dying on waiting lists while immigrants get first rate service
>Pablo is a citizen OK! Now operate or he dies, you have no time!
Build the wall, shut down immigration and then you can talk.
Adam White
I never met anybody who said they love their health insurance company.
