GENERAL IDEAS SO FAR: >capitalize on Hillary's #ImWithHer, both in the US and abroad in France to try to stir support for Le Pen (and try to soften her image) >#LesFemmesAvecLePen >#UneFemmeALaPresidence >#MadameLaPresidente
some ideas seen elsewhere, plus French symbols/motifs to consider while memeing: >Joan of Arc >machismo may work? >capitalize on french as "lovers," perhaps anti-German sentiment? >more pepes? baguette, eiffel tower, wine, mimes, you get the idea >Liberté, Egalité, Fraternité >Marianne >République Française >French tricolore >"La Marseillaise" youtube.com/watch?v=4K1q9Ntcr5g >try to rekindle the MAGA hat magic? we have nearly 5-6 months to light a fire for Front National. part of Trump's success was his masterful branding. MAGA was a great phrase, highly memeable, and the red hat was iconic for its shock value and visibility; MAGA hats are THE greatest political "apparel" in any of our lifetimes and capitalizing on what remains in the global psyche of the current election season is probably the best way to maximize our results
Front National has the worst fucking marketing I've ever seen; if we can start some discussion about how to fix that, that'd be great.
Lastly, rememeber: Marion is hot, but we want people to love Marine.
For non-French Sup Forums here's a summary of all the candidates and parties in this election
Pic related is Jean Luc Mélenchon, Front de Gauche: ancient member of the socialist party, left in 2008 to create the Front de Gauche, a coalition of communists and hard left. Been a senator his whole life, Anti-American, fan of Chavez, inclined to autocracy and populism, shits on journalists, but is in favor of immigration. In 2012 he supported the left in 2nd turn and is still butthurt about it. Refused to participate in the left primaries. The socialist laws concerning work code gave him a bump. He hopes to pull out a Bernie. Polls give him from 10% to 15%.
Caleb Sanchez
Yannick Jadot, Europe Ecologie les Verts, EELV: Jadot was appointed candidate after a closed primaries. They are hardcore left on both economy and social matters. EELV candidates are known to sell their ass to the PS for a position in the government. They'll reach 2% at best.
Eli Sanchez
Partie Socialiste: primaries 1st and 2nd turn will be respectively 22/01 and 27/01. Most likely candidate will be Hollande. His main opposition on the Left, Emmanuel Macron is a centrist but some people says that he's just a pawn of Hollande.
Sebastian Carter
Sup Forums, you have to understand.
Trump is a politician since...less than one year? Brexit is not really about "muh racism", Nigel is not like that
But the FN...people think it's literally the NSDAP, they think they're racist (maybe a lot of FN voters are racist but they don't control the party), that they will literally gas the jews, deport the muslims, and they lost all their elections, their worst defeat being during the 2002 elections where they got only 6M votes (against 25M fucking votes)
I want to believe, really, but I'm worried
Hope the "silent majority" thing is fucking real
MFGA
Landon Martin
Center, UDI & Modem: complicated. Originally incarnated by François Bayrou (left in the pic). Bayrou was the third man in 2007 with his party called the MODEM. After being elected, Sarkozy rekt Bayrou by creating a new centrist party (UDI) and almost all of François Bayrou former friend betrayed him to join it. Bayrou was obviously butthurt and in the 2012 2nd turn, he supported Hollande in the 2nd turn. The UDI didn't propose a candidate in the Right primaries, saying they would have their own candidate in the election but it seems they lack the popular support and charismatic person to find one (Lagarde, on the right, is their leader and he's a low energy fag). Bayrou said he will run for president if Juppé is not the candidate chosen by the right primaries.
Adrian Clark
France will be a majority-Muslim country by 2020
Nathan Harris
Les républicains, LR (formerly known as Union pour un Mouvement Populaire, UMP): currently in primaries (mostly LR candidates + Poisson from the partie Chrétien Démocrate, a sattelite party of the UMP). Debates are over, the 1st turn will be held 20/11 and second 27/11. The two main candidates are Nicolas Sarkozy and Alain Juppé. Alain Juppé is campaigning on the center right, hoping that he'll end up against Le Pen in the 2nd turn and Socialist voters will support him. Sarkozy on the other end is campaigning on the hard right like he did in 2007, with success. Important thing to know, the primaries voting were open to anybody so it's likely Leftists voters will participate and vote for Juppé.
Andrew Jackson
Nicolas Dupont Aignan, Debout la France (formerly known as Debout la République): used to be a member of the UMP. Anti-EU, opposed to immigration, basically the nice guy version of the FN. Will do 5% at best.
Josiah Brooks
Add in future threads this Youtube Channel which translates French political videos for our movement worldwide, and which will cover the campaign for the presidential election :
Marine Le Pen, Front National: you already know about her I guess. More and more normies follow her, she might reach 30% on the first turn which is enough to send her to second turn. There are some people that doesn't like her in the French far-right family, which is a giant clusterfuck.
Not even sure he wants France to leave this shitty union
Sebastian Gomez
I did not mention two fag group of the far left but they don't really matter.
Pic related his one of the most recent poll.
Aaron Hall
Not sure I'll be there for the next gen thread, coud you take care of it?
Parker Davis
He wants
Jeremiah Miller
Good luck France!
Oliver Hill
Yes I will take care of it if you leave before !
Blake Long
Is there a chance that the FN could get elected on the first turn?
Many, many people are going to vote FN on the first turn as a "protestation" vote. Could they get more than 50%? Even if it's an extremely small possibility
Andrew Ramirez
Feel free to improve those summaries and post them on the next gen thread. Our fellow non French Sup Forums memers need to know more about our politics.
Alexander Cox
Ideas :
>push the idea islam is all good for white male on social networks Will polarize women and feminist against islam. Call racist and islamophobic every person criticizing this.
>make a twitter hashtag #ConversionPourlaPaix Push the idea France can be united by mass conversion to islam and adoption of islamic standards. Call racist and islamophobic everybody criticizing this.
We have to caricature their stances and put them in front of their contradictions.
Also attacking the islam angle is a great way to put all pro islamic parties in bad light. Guys like Juppé, Hollande etc... will be frown upon because they want to help islamization of the country. Also, it would be very easy to manipulate muslims on social network to support this.
This is reverse psychology, but in a SJW state of mind it could be one approach to change minds about islamization.
Owen Mitchell
noice
Thanks lad...
Sebastian Peterson
I luv you france. I think you hab always been our greatest aly :DD
Andrew Thomas
Thanks friend.
Dominic Rogers
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Christopher Butler
I just copy-pasted the content of the last gen thread original post. It was made by an American who made the last two gen thread. We need to start taking care of it or the few Sup Forums guys that are with us will stop caring.
Xavier Jenkins
>Is there a chance that the FN could get elected on the first turn? Yeah no. There is no scenario for that.
Or perhaps, if after an attentat killing 1k people, Marine is going out and using the disaster to gain votes. Even so, it can royally backfire.
Jaxon Baker
This video was posted on the last thread by a French user and I think that Pierre Yves Rougeyron is right on this one.
We need to dig up everything against Juppé concerning Rwanda and Libya and meme it to normies.
Absolutely, more than anyone, he is the French equivalent of Hillary.
Mason Perry
Would it be possible to rig the polls of the UMP primaries in order to discredit Juppé and push Sarkozy to be an independent candidate, in order to further divide the party? Is that an option?
David Miller
Rougeyron also said that members of Juppé staff were involved in Yugoslavia wars
Brandon Ortiz
The question is, is any of them willing to take the responsibility of giving the presidency to Marine.
I watched the Zemmour & Naulleau of this week and Minc said it was unlikely that Sarkozy wouldn't accept Juppé being nominated.
Jack Baker
Then vote for Sarkozy. DO YOUR PART
Andrew Garcia
Nice but he is kind of useless, at least many of his voters will vote for the FN at the second part of the election
Jaxon Gonzalez
I guess, but we have to try to discredit Juppé as much as possible. I suppose we don't have the technical means to rig the primaries themselves, so the polls is the next best thing in order to give Sarkozy an edge
Jeremiah Thomas
Holy fuck. You got any sauce? We need to dig up that shit.
Here's a quote of Juppé I found that could be memed about the war in Libya: >Quand on m'interroge sur le coût de l'opération - le ministère de la Défense parle de 1 million d'euros par jour - je fais remarquer que c'est aussi un investissement sur l'avenir
Zachary Watson
No. Rigging elections/polls are next to impossible in france. You might laugh, be we are in democracy still.
Considering your scenario, the outcome will just be Juppé being a stronger candidate without contestation on the right.
Zachary Barnes
>Rigging elections/polls are next to impossible in france Aren't online polls within our means, at least?
I don't see how we can prevent Juppé getting elected without Sarkozy presenting himself as an independent candidate.
Andrew Morgan
I've stopped following French politics during the US election but did that quote from Juppé >Je ne veux pas l'Intérieur, je n'aime pas les flics. Pas la Justice. Je déteste les juges made a scandal or was it swept under the rug quickly?
It sounds like a major turn off for the right voters. Especially at this time.
John Watson
I don't know.
You say he's a "nice version of MLP" but AFAIK, he doesn't really like her
During the Régionales, he had more than 800K votes, right? Hope his voters don't hate Marine...
Dominic Parker
Our people are smarter than that.
1. Online polls arent that valued. 2. If there is a change that is not within the margin of error, it will be considered as an error and be voided.
Anyway, beside paying the UMP 2€ to vote, and a sign a "i will be loyal to the party decision paper", you can only hope that Juppé shits on himself on the next debate, while Sarkozy destroy him. Tho after seeing the 2 first debate, Juppé isnt going to fall in any bait.
Zachary Lee
I'm certainly going to vote Sarkozy for the primaries, but it honestly seems that we're fucked. Juppé isn't stupid enough to fall in any trap, and Sarkozy isn't doing well.
Ayden Watson
To the FSB agents in this thread:
if you think you can co opt us you are wrong. we are actually using you as a bargaining chip with our own ruling class to get what we want.
good luck with your secret mission. just know that we anons know what's up.
Another thing, if we consider that Macron is candidate, does not fuck up too much, while the PS is having a shit candidate, and Sarkozy is the candidate. Then the 2nd round will be LePen-Macron. Macron winning.
Ethan Ortiz
Macron probably won't be a candidate though, he doesn't have any backing or anything.
Christian Campbell
"GENERAL IDEAS SO FAR: >capitalize on Hillary's #ImWithHer, both in the US and abroad in France to try to stir support for Le Pen (and try to soften her image) >#LesFemmesAvecLePen >#UneFemmeALaPresidence >#MadameLaPresidente"
This is a bad idea, won't help with the French, it definitely didn't work for Hillary.
Jeremiah Miller
Arnaud Danjean? The Kouchner scandal in Yougoslavia is hard to work with. It's sadly considered conspiratard-tier by most French.
Isaac Campbell
Not my own idea but I don't think it's that bad. Hillary didn't win much from the 1st women president meme because the people that could affected by it were already gained to her cause. Not the case in France with MLP.
Liam Reyes
You're the first people i see that say that Macron is not going to be candidate.
Aiden Williams
I find it hard to imagine that a guy as young and inexperienced as he is could receive the necessary backing in order to become a serious candidate. Most (((journalists))) say that he's being too impatient.
Aaron Gomez
152 LR députés launched a motion to destitute hollande.
I think it was Rougeyron that said that Macron was just a strawman of Hollande to prevent Valls to run for this election. In the vid posted in this post See @ 1:24:00
Ryder Sullivan
He's still having better polling than about anyone excluding Juppé/Sarko/Lepen.
>Most (((journalists))) say that he's being too impatient. That's why he didn't officialize shit yet. Even his wife wanna him to candidate lol.
Jaxon Davis
Montebourg may win socialist primaries and steal some votes from Mélenchon
Brandon Roberts
What's the point?
Adam Reed
>unveil state secrets Justice for high treason ?
Michael Lopez
But would it be enough. I like wha t says about how to get a reaction from feminists. Is feminism as widespread in France as in Anglo world? Is it as disgusting?
pic unrelated. General Jean de Lattre de Tassigny "le Roi Jean". Cool dude.
Didn't Sarkozy took away the possibility of judging politicians for treason or something like this?
Liam Bailey
No feminism isn't as widespread as it is in the anglo word(yet),but the SJW cancer is spreading slowly
Alexander Price
It's mostly say that Macron somewhat "betrayed" Hollande and Valls isn't going to do the same, and thus is waiting to know if Hollande is candidate or not. Valls is say to be the #1 Hollande Dog.
Joseph Ross
>Is feminism as widespread in France as in Anglo world? Is it as disgusting? Probably not as much, but lots of leftist women are pro-feminist and pro islam at the same time.
Oliver Rivera
Will electing Le Pen be harder than electing Trump?
Jason Wood
>Is feminism as widespread in France as in Anglo world? Is it as disgusting? In the population, I don't really know but in the media yes. The media helped a lot the Femen movement to gain coverage.
Brayden Flores
Yes, because she isn't a meme generator and don't try to be politically incorrect
Angel Harris
In the current state of things, today, it's easier to elect Bernie Sanders in a Clinton/Trump election than to elect Lepen.
Dominic Green
Don't think so. Trump came out of nowhere, Marine is already at 30% (so on top) in almost every polls. You just have to make people understand that they're not LITURELAY HITLAR.
Lincoln Gray
No, @ 1:25:45 he says that Macron is a decoy against the candidates of the center right and Montebourg a decoy against the candidates of the far left.
Luis Richardson
FN is a meme party that was propped up by Pharaoh Mitterrand to fuck up the Right
I don't really see it taking power, as its role is to play boogeyman, and Marine is sold to homos and freemasons
But maybe that anything can happen in this timeline...
I'd rather have François Asselineau, but he's got no popular support. Figures, he's the only one telling the truth and not playing on fears or hopes.
Pic related: bonhomme solide
Luke Flores
I talk about the overall opinion, not about that guy. Didn't read video, not subtitled.
Jeremiah Wilson
The homo thing is not really bad, though. Gets fags on her side.
If she can have the women and gays vote, it's a great thing. We should really play on the vagina card like Hillary.
Blake Cruz
The point is not who we'd want to have for President. I like Poisson for instance but it's not like he has a snowball chance in hell and neither Asselineau has (who has the Charisma of an oyster).
We need a major political habbening for the moment.
Blake Gonzalez
UPR is a meme party
"muh 6000 members"
Brandon Robinson
>didn't read video, not subtitled Sorry, I thought you were French. Still, I don't worry about Macron, he's a meme candidate, nothing else.
He's shilled by the Media because he's young, anti-racist and liberal on economics and social matters. But the Media never picks the right candidate in France.
Brayden Ramirez
Guys, if Macron is elected, it's a big fuck you to the whole party system.
He's not affiliated to anything, he's 38 yo, so not old enough to be a 40+ year political moron in his 70's like basically everyone else. Oh well ...
Austin Bailey
Je le suis, mais je suis aussi sourd, donc sans sous-titres, je vais comprendre quedalle.
Christopher Harris
And?
Luis Sanchez
Do you really want this gipsy as president again?
Jaxson Hernandez
>Our people are smarter than that
Andrew Carter
I don't think he has any chances, to be honest. NOBODY would want to vote for the left in these time, and that's why Juppé is the biggest danger ; he's on the "right" side for his campain, even though is a leftist, and more people with agree with his leftists view, while they'll say they vote for someone on the right. He's right, vote Sarko for the first round. If he's in the second round, he'll get fucked by Marine. If Juppé passes, it'll be far harder for her.
Mason Lopez
So you want to completely destroy the "racist and xenophobic" side of the party?
Sup Forums dafug :DDDDD
Landon Brown
If Sarko wins the primaries Le Pen may win the elections
But if Juppé wins...we're fucked
Colton Garcia
Then they probably won't have such a gross mindset as they do in Anglolands. They'll be more reasonable, malleable to the FN cause if we can push the proofs of Islamization and such.
The working class can be drawn if we can show how bad mass immigration would be for them, driving down their wages and such. Uncontrolled mass immigration being the problem, keeping the numbers in reasonable range should sate the pro immigration leftists.
Nathan Campbell
But Marine never said something racist in public. That was Jean-Marie's times. Of course there'll be racists in the party, but that's who the people will vote for. Same thing for Donald, never said something racist publicly, but people attacked him for being racist.
Brody Bailey
Yep.
btw I'd rather have Sarko as my president than Ali Juifppé
Christopher Hughes
Ah ok.
Jose Rivera
Our country is so fucked that even fr Sup Forumsacks are leftist holy shit
Dominic Hernandez
As long they have the same blood, what Marine actually said or not, does not matter.
Christian Morales
I want to destroy this party.
I think we MUST create a new party, without all the "muh racist" scandals.
We need a party like AfD
Evan Rogers
So who are we meming to victorie France, who is the base mutha fucker that will kick the mussos out and make France again a country which reflects the lyrics of its national anthem?
Easton Phillips
>pastebin.com/ZKGyMv7v Great. Thanks. How many Muslims and how many Blacks support (or vote) for the NF? I'm assuming very low? Do these minorities make up a large percentage of France, or not? Merci.
