Why is the Left horrible and the Right great and why is the Right horrible and the Left great Sup Forums?

Why is the Left horrible and the Right great and why is the Right horrible and the Left great Sup Forums?

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Because the right doesn't need safe spaces if someone calls them a name or doesn't take them seriously for being a demi-sexual transfaggot

I don't see how any left wing ideology can be right, be it communism or national *socialism*

Anarchists are often left wingers because anarchy creates a void that can be filled with authoritarian rule.

> the right doesn't need safe spaces
> MUH WAR ON CHRISTMAS every goddamn year

user, you are the dumb

Ultimately it comes down to two ideologies.

The Left believes in self-preservation.
The Right believes in self-determination.

The Left demands that Government fix the problems of the nation. The Right demands the people fix the problems of the nation.

The Left demands Government provide them security. The Right demands security from the Government.

The Left demand the people pay for others. The Right demands people pay for themselves.

The Left demands the Government lead public opinion. The Right demands the Government follow public opinion.

The Left demands forced opportunity. The Right demands merited opportunity.

The Left demands control.

The Right demands Freedom.

Don't pick on Christmas ;-;

This pic is wrong. Anyone who's takes any poli-sci classes know this. Fascism is a far right ideology. Anarchy is also on the left side of the spectrum.

but why?

That's us being against anti-religion safe spaces. Also no riots.

>ideologies as a line

every time

>nazism
>left politics
you dumb fuck.
>anarchism
>right politics
needle points out of the tachometer

>The Left believes in self-preservation.

>The Left demands that Government fix the problems of the nation.

>The Left demands Government provide them security.

O really? Is it the left that just voted in a guy who promised to ban Muslims and deport illegals. The guy who also wants to take away people's rights to marry. The left voted that guy in?
Oh no, that's right, it wasn't them. Right wingers love and crave authoritarian government control, that's why the vote in people who enact things like the patriot act.
God you don't understand politics at all. You right wingers can be dumb as shit sometimes. Probably the lack of college education

I didn't make the picture friendo.

this is why the left is distressed and crying they're children

Political Science is a bullshit Marxist course, the Nazis were leftist scum just like the Socialists of today, look at their policies and it'll be obvious to you.

>>nazism
>>left politics
>you dumb fuck.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Program

Tell me which of these policies aren't left wing you uneducated fuckwit. Nazis as "right wing" is a psyop by leftists to make the left look more credible.

>The guy who also wants to take away people's rights to marry.
People don't have a "right to marry." Fags can always get married, but they're asking for others to acknowledge their sodomy.

I don't believe the government should be involved in marriage at all.

This is stupid.

Left and right are outdated terms from the French Revolution. Leftists wanted a republic, rightists wanted to preserve a absolute monarchy, moderates wanted a constitutional monarchy.

The main schism today is local vs global

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Program
>Wikipedia

see ya

No, it was the Right who voted in a President who promises to ban migration from countries particularly vulnerable to terrorism, until there is a better vetting system in place, so you don't get fucking beheaded in the streets like we do, or shot dead in a restaurant in a gun-free zone, or shot dead in a barracks, or shot dead in a concert, or blown up in a hotel.

A guy who wants to remove the LGBT communities influence over the Christian religion, and allow Churches to enforce the rules stated in their Holy Scripture, just as Muslim Mosques and Jewish Synagogues do. This would stop the political games and allow the LGBT community to create their own marraige system, one where they aren't married in the eyes of God, because if you're a Christian, you can't marry the same Gender, I don't care if you're as fluid as water and I certainly don't give a flying fuck what Milo says. You're not an anti-semite or Islamophobe, are you?

Right Wingers love and crave Bipartisan Government Oversight, thats why they vote in people who enact things like The Constitution, Magne Carte and Democracy (Mob Rule).

God, you don't understand politics at all. You Left wingers can be Fascist as Hitler sometimes. Probably the lack of humility.

Nice bait though, you got me good.

>butthurt leftie
this is starting to be annoying

>Slide thread
Kay why ess.

Thomas Sowell put in one way that I found was interesting:

The Left believes fundamentally that "man is born free and is everywhere in chains" that it is not the fault of the individual for the problems of the individual it is always the fault of the system. And the only way to change humanity for the better is to change the system in his favor.

The right believes that all people are flawed from the beginning and because of that there can be no perfect system; there are no full solutions there are only trade-offs.

This. That chart completely ignores fascist right-wing regimes, theocracy, anarcho-socialism, anarcho-communism, etc.

>People don't have a "right to marry." Fags can always get married, but they're asking for others to acknowledge their sodomy.

>I don't believe the government should be involved in marriage at all.

Wow, what a dumb redneck you must be.
People DO have a right to marry you dumb shit. Marriage is an institution of the state. That's why you have to file paperwork with the state. No one cares about you having to acknowledge their sodomy. How bout you just mind your own fucking business fucking Fascist piece of shit.

>implying National Socialism is bad
Wew lad

they arent and are both at the same time. one isnt better than the other, its baout how it is executed and embraced. left and right are also no enemies but potential allies. imagine if everyone had the same mindset. there would never be a discussion that leads to new point of views, exchange of informations, solution oneself might not have thought about, problems one oversaw etc. all that is because of differenent mindsets which lead to different political views if you hate either side you are just fallbuting for (((their))) divide and conquer meme and proof it to be effective.
The current liberals in power are a disgrace to humanity, i am saying that as a libtard myself. but its not the left itself that is at fault. the followers where just misguided and molded into the degenerates.

There is no such thing as merited opportunity in today's society. Things like good looks, social class, inherited wealth, background, and even luck are mistaken for merit.

>How bout you just mind your own fucking business fucking Fascist piece of shit.

>Marriage is an institution of the state.
it's actually religious act dumb ass

Marraige is not an institution. The Church grants marraige, that's why you had to force the Government to step in when Gays and Lesbians couldn't get married.

The paperwork you complete in cooperation with Government legislation is all to do with Censury, Taxation and Management. You do not need Government permission to get married. Well, atleast not if you're straight.

Don't dismiss his argument because it offends you, he's correct in what he says. You're just too emotionally involved in your opinion, maybe because you suck dick or rub cunt, I don't know.

All I know at this moment about you, is you sre shitposting.

Except it was originally intended as a tool for the consolidation of wealth and power between royal families. Religion hi-jacked it later.

I agree with you in some sense, it can come down to who you know and where you live in a lot of circumstances, yet I still believe that opportunity is always granted to those who excel.

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>No, it was the Right who voted in a President who promises to ban migration from countries particularly vulnerable to terrorism, until there is a better vetting system in place, so you don't get fucking beheaded in the streets like we do, or shot dead in a restaurant in a gun-free zone, or shot dead in a barracks, or shot dead in a concert, or blown up in a hotel.

Guess what retard, all that shit can happen regardless of "muh vetting". All I see in your post is fear. Right wing faggots are helpless cucks who can't protect themselves so they vote in people out of fear. Know who else used terrorism and a scare tactic then promised to rid his glorious nation of the Jews by extreme vetting and nationalism? You get one guess

>A guy who wants to remove the LGBT communities influence over the Christian religion,

No one gives a fuck about who churches marry. Gay couples get married through the state, not the church. Why does the church care who the state marries. They need to mind their own business.

>and allow Churches to enforce the rules stated in their Holy Scripture, just as Muslim Mosques and Jewish Synagogues do. This would stop the political games and allow the LGBT community to create their own marraige system, one where they aren't married in the eyes of God, because if you're a Christian, you can't marry the same Gender, I don't care if you're as fluid as water and I certainly don't give a flying fuck what Milo says. You're not an anti-semite or Islamophobe, are you?

No one gives a shit what Christians do. Yall can rape all the alter boys you want, still don't have the right to invade others liberty

>Right Wingers love and crave Bipartisan Government Oversight, thats why they vote in people who enact things like The Constitution, Magne Carte and Democracy (Mob Rule).

So your saying it was just right wingers who enacted the constitution? You're dumb as shit kid. Go back to school.

marriage IS religionrelated. it got a few components from the state to it, but still its something based on the religion and so should practicing church decide who to marry and who not.

however gay couples definitely should get the same rights, and even if they cant get married they should be able to reach a status with the same priviligous regarding the own right, taxes and whatever.

Ideologically, the modern left is about imposing fairness upon nature. The right about treating people justly, implicitly accepting that nature is not fair but man should be. The left, instead abandoning justice in their denial of nature. Fairness vs nature is the biggest irreconcilable ideological schism between blocks.

stay mad faggot

The whole purpose of marriage before religion wasn't about money and power entirely.

Not just the rich and esteemed did it, it was popular among the masses, too. It was a way of showing loyalty and monogamy toward your partner, to solidify the devotion and love for eachother. Now it's tainted by politics, prenups, anulments, divorces and alimony.

>All this WRONG in one thread
Let me learn you something good.
The left believes hierarchy is bad and unnatural.
The right believes hierarchy is good and natural.
All left/right policies follow from this basic worldview premise.

The makeup of your statements makes me question your intention. I will take it as b8.

>Guess what retard, all that shit can happen regardless of "muh vetting".

>Don't try to reduce the chances or avoid whats happening in Europe. You won't stop it 100% so why even aim for 90-95%.

/leftypol/ is always hilarious.

Ah fuck, meant to say fairness vs justice.

The point still remains, but thank you for the clarification.

It takes an authoritarian government to impose marriage as a right in any way.

Islam is athoritarian. Islam and Muslims cannot tolerate a free society as it is not Islamic.

As for the Patriot Act, that's the Uniparty (Dems and RINOs/GOPe) growing government. They are all progressives and proud of it.

This. This is why the good guys won in the last election, and will win soon in other parts of the world.

The right are the good guys.

Trump is the good guy.

But OP your pic is not accurate. At their extremes the right and the left are indistinguishable so they are both equally bad.

Also there's nothing wrong with classical liberalism and libertarians, they are the best ideologies. You don't want government in every aspect of your life they should exist only to assure that every citizen respects and doesn't violate the rights of their fellow man.

>alt-right are talking about white genocide, immigration and jobbloss

>somehow not self preservation

i appriciate the attempt, but it would be safer to group them in control vs freedom
but then again it wouldnt fit the definition of left and right
as anarchy is considered a left wing in most of the world, with americas special brand of neo-feudalism (anarcho capitalism) being the odd man out

freedom is a much greater concept then most political values however, while the two sides mostly focus on whos in charge, rather then freedom

The pic is just the first thing I saw on google images that was vaguely related to the post, I didn't check for accuracy.

Have you ever read about John Adams' belief that meritocracy was a bad idea? Pretty interesting stuff.

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This. No one is stopping fags from buying rings and sayibg vows. They just want the tax perks that go with it.

Socialist is the far-left totalitarian state you are thinking of. Communism and Trotskyism are far right according to your image.

>classical liberalism and libertarians, they are the best ideologies
This.

Left ppl say 'we know that our ideal may not be possible but we will try to get the closest' but, when libertarians/classical liberals do so, they just say 'lolbertarians'. It's just weird how left ppl often have such a double standard while they claim that they have no such thing

naw man you are wrong. Tell me, what was the real difference between Stalin's russia and hitler's germany? They're both totalitarian systems of government and essentially the same.

>It takes an authoritarian government to impose marriage as a right in any way.

Governments can't "impose rights" dumb dumb, they can only recognize them or not recognize them. its like you righties don't know what rights are. You think you're guaranteed rights because youre born somewhere?
People are given rights when governments respect the sovereignty of the individual and recognize a set of values that are considered basic for everyone. This is basic political theory guise. Rights aren't intrinsic or given by a god, without government, there are no rights.

>Islam is athoritarian. Islam and Muslims cannot tolerate a free society as it is not Islamic.
Islam is a religion. It can't be authoritarian because the label of authoritarianism is applied to governing bodies. You could say that Sharia law is authoritarian but Islam is not, unless you willing to say Christianity is authoritarian too.

>As for the Patriot Act, that's the Uniparty (Dems and RINOs/GOPe) growing government. They are all progressives and proud of it.

I assumed you weren't paying attention during the Bush Admin

because its not your or the governments business what I do
the constutution tries to ensure a few things

do what you want

don't hurt, steal, kill other people in any way

no one can hurt you, steal your possesions, or kill you

thats basically it and thats all it should be

Sounds like you're the one who needs a safe space, senpai