Could a gauranted red state split of california happen under a president trump and republican congress

could a gauranted red state split of california happen under a president trump and republican congress

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It would be nice, but I doubt it.

No, no land is allowed to leave the union.
California is ours, its only being occupied by faggots and Mexicans.

They will be dealt with in time.

its up to the state, not the federal government

Even suggesting a split is bordering on treason. Pedros are already starting to leave anyway, many more will leave once the riots die down

hes not talking about california forming its own nation. hes asking if it could split like the dakotas or carolinas

The division of California into separate norther and southern states would inevitably lead to an attempt at secession. Southern California has millions and millions of illegals along with millennial anchor babies, and mixed race traitors from a generation prior. They have overwhelming support for the La Raza movement.

Splitting California is nothing but a soft step towards the spics trying to leave the Union.
Its rightfully our land, and we can't grant them any victory no matter how small.

mexico could never get california back, their gov is just too shit. thats the whole reason we got most of the southwest from mexico without firing a shot

So we are supposed to keep sitting around and watching our rights get whittled away by the ass hats in the south?

No thanks. Even before the south was as flooded woth illegals we were getting fucked over by the enviromentalists in San Fran and Sac who were gutting the lumber industry, one of the two major industries on Jefferson.They take our water and while our own rice farms are resivours are short changed.

We would be a garunteed Red state with five electoral college votes and two senators. redding.com/opinion/speak-your-piece/election-shows-need-for-state-of-jefferson-40e53d66-7141-0990-e053-0100007fcfe7-400624911.html

>So we are supposed to keep sitting around and watching our rights get whittled away by the ass hats in the south?

No, of course not. You fight for your land. Now we have an opportunity to take back ground in this culture war. Keep pressure up on Trump's admin and the GOP to ensure his plans get put into action.

Defund sanctuary cities.
Enforce our existing immigration laws.
Get the wall built.
Immediately deport illegals caught committing crimes.
End all financial incentives for illegal immigrants.
Further more:
Push for VoterID laws to get passed
Push for Mexico encouraging illegal immigration into the US to be a hostile, and subversive act which is to be dealt with diplomatically, putting a freeze on all their financial aid.

We have to keep pushing for all these things, keep the pressure up. We can't let the establishment GOP cuck. They want Mexicans and central Americans because they think it will keep the cost of labor down. The reality is that all these immigrants come from Socialist countries, and they want Socialist governments. They want welfare and that will never change. The Republicans need to be confronted with this fact. They cannot turn the masses of these people into little imitation white Conservatives.
California can be taken back. Trump's election is just the first step on a long path.

The important thing here, as if it wasn't already obvious enough, is the demographic impact on voting patterns.
If Democrats didn't have this guaranteed rent seeking voter base they wouldn't be able to get so many Democrat candidates elected.

California could have their gun rights restored by simply enacting these measures.

SoJ51 for the win. Southern Oregon can join to.

all of those things would require the Southern Californians to behave rationally. They will not.

>Defund sanctuary cities.
Beyond the fact that the entire state is essentially a sanctuary state thanks to legislation Brown signed in 2013, San Fran has already publicly stated that they will maintain their status as a sanctuary city. Sac will deal with being defunded by raising taxes which the idiots down south will vote for because they will vote for anything that raises taxes on people, even a stupid as fuck bullet train.
>Enforce our existing immigration laws.
Again Brown has already made is so that local law enforcement won't cooperate with the Fed.
>Get the wall built.
Brown is vowing to oppose it.
>Immediately deport illegals caught committing crimes.
Brown and the Southerners will push against it.
>End all financial incentives for illegal immigrants.
Brown's already extended Obamacare to them, he isn't going to step back from it.
>Push for VoterID laws to get passed
Jefferson wants that, Cali won't allow it.

all your suggestions are great, but they are not achievable in a united California because of the white leftists, the legalized Mexican, and the Blacks. The Best option is the fracturing of California into several smaller and more manageable states, not just Jefferson and SoCal.

If the current Governor hinders ICE or Border Patrol from doing their jobs he'll get slapped down instantly. The only reason why Border Patrol is so neutered now is because of this administration's Department of Homeland Security. Obama's admin made these decisions to be pro illegal, it can easily be reversed.

The deportation policy is set and enforced at the federal level. If the state of California in any way attempted to release criminals back into the public after the federal government slated them for deportation there would be hell to pay. Your Governor would be arrested.

The Governor can't stop construction on the wall either, its entirely out of his control.

VoterID laws, establishing the vote to only be for legal citizens, would come as a constitutional amendment. Its not something that individual states could override.

These aren't impossible measures, hope is within our grasp. All we have to do is keep up the pressure on Republicans. All of the Jeb, Rubio, and Cruz types need to be dragged out into daylight and shamed for their antiAmerican stances on immigration.
America for Americans, not south of the border Socialists.

Brown is already being very vocal about opposing Trump.
>latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-updates-gov-jerry-brown-says-californians-1478821311-htmlstory.html
Brown is part of a political dynasty that has tremendous weight in California and has developed a kind of cult of personality that makes the left fanatically loyal to him. He will oppose Trumps immigration policies and if Trump moves against him then California will burn and it will only stoke more support for this stupid Calexit bullshit that people keep talking about.

Getting 2/3rd of the states to support a Voter ID amendment sounds like a fantasy to me. The Left won't do it and given how Ryan was dragging his feet on even talking about the possibility of a wall on the southern border many corporate own Republicans won't support it either.

The dialog we see regarding these issues in the public sphere is half the issue. Speaker Paul Ryan can go on TV or interview with some MSM outlet and cuck on the immigration issue because its the norm. Republican accept it. They keep trying to push the idea that Mexicans will come to America and become Republicans. The whole "family values don't stop at the border" rhetoric. Those lies have to be called out, they can't be allowed to push that narrative free from dissent.

The Republican party will fold and fall in line if enough of them get exposed and called out for not being real conservatives. Its not impossible, just an uphill battle. Trump's victory in the election shows that we can push back against the establishment and MSM. We don't rest now, this is the point where the fight really starts.

bumping cause this is interesting stuff. Northern California is begging for more representation and meme'ing a 51st red state into existence would be a worthwhile goal.

san diego in, we can't even raise taxes to pay for fucking roads. the libs here like to have gubmint programs and free shit but they fucking hate to pay for it

You guys aren't half as bad as San Fran or LA, but please tell me how the hell we got that ridiculous bullet train? Who voted for it? Why did they vote for it?

I don't remember ever seeing anything about a bullet train actually being put into motion. Is this recent?

latimes.com/local/california/la-me-bullet-train-warning-20160518-snap-story.html
People voted for it in the last presidential election.

Well, to answer your older question, here's how it works. The denizens of LA and SF see that countries in Europe and Asia have nice quick bullet trains to take them between cities that are anywhere from 50-200 miles apart. Then these guys notice they don't have the nice snazzy infrastructure they do (not that we fucking need it). So they cry until they can pay for it and then use it at best once every 4 years.

This is something I could actually see being useful from DC to Boston though, lots of high density cities not too far apart, useful for for people who want to head to a different city for a short vacation, visit some family, watch football.

But in California? Dredging through 500 miles of jack shit to connect 2 cities that are supposed to hate each other? How fucking dumb are those cities?

And I even forgot to mention they want to build this shit along probably the most dangerous earthquake zone in the country.

>How fucking dumb are those cities?
very, they are very dumb.

San Fran's environmentalism devastated the lumber based economy of my part of the state and they don't seem to understand why we want to be our own state after having our economy gutted. They scream, "You'll be poor if you leave." and seem to forget that we are already poor because we are still here. If it weren't for San Fran and LA I doubt anyone in the North State would even entertain the notion of being our own state.

Don't forget Northern Jefferson.

Here I am bitching about the dipshits in San Fran and LA talking about Calexit, but the Northern Jeffersonians have to deal with the idiots in Portland destroying the city.

>without firing a shot
boi

>fought the Mexican-American war without a single shot

how do we make this happen?

Egg on Cascadia & California to secede, then just like 1936 - well not just like. But we'll grab our guns and secede and re join the glorious union.

Idk Desu the 49 star flag looks pretty neat.

trump said he will purge the illegal spics

they should concede the east half too, so Jefferson would be an upside down idaho looking thing with the population of Illinois