“We want to make Poland a truly sovereign nation...

“We want to make Poland a truly sovereign nation, whose actions -- taken in its own interest -- are are accepted by others,” Kaczynski said in Warsaw. “For years this wasn’t the case, but now we must fight this tough battle and we will, against our partners in the EU and other partners, such as in NATO, as well as domestic ones who still think in old-fashioned and harmful ways.”

>leave EU
>leave NATO
>keep offending and angering russia
>get rekt in 3 days
>oy vey how could it happen germany pls help

who /total retard government/ here? i just want off this train.

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>leave EU
>bad

says czech republic, the country that actually has more money than it knows what to do with

we absolutely need to hang at EU's tit or we become mexico of europe

I hate this fucking country so much

Sounds like they want to go "Poland strong" like 1920-1939 and go full retard again pissing off their neighbors. I can't blame them though, EU is cancer.

If they get support from Britain again I start laughing my ass off.

frankly, united europe would be goat, but not the bureaucratic pc overlord EU now is

pretty much this, sure there are immigrants and what not, but overall this country improved. tons of money and such. of course POLAND STRONK retards keep dishing some shitty infographics showing that we actually pay EU more than we get...

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I just wish we could stop licking USA butt and restore relationships with Russia instead of portraying them as supreme evil, that's all.

stop trolling fag, nothing wrong with leaving EU, nobodys talking of leaving NATo.. litrally people dont listen or feed this faggit

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youre not here, you dont know what is happening.
so much changed in last year that leaving eu and nato, then starting war with russia (yes, our shitty military bravely starting the offense) doesnt sound impossible at all

You can have literally all the benefits of the EU including a combined military without having the free movement of people which destroys the nation states/races long term.

Just create an alliance of the sovereign nations, only bind them by the most relevant treaties (trade, military and Europe's borders) and be done with it. Give the people a chance to make their own country great and instill in them the idea that one nation might work towards strengthening another ally. Right now people just don't give a fuck about anything and are just like "yeah ok tax me shit don't even know why"... people lack purpose, lack political and geopolitical knowledge and definately lack propaganda... they only know pro US military propaganda thanks to hollywood and thats it.

>sure there are immigrants
What immigrants does Poland have now?

we dont have many, what i meant was
>being ""forced"" to take immigrants is one of the cons
that is one of biggest reasons why our shitty ass catholic-retard government was elected, because they strongly opposed it, saying it would cost too much etc., at the same time they turned our country into socialist shithole. they bought votes with 500+ which is 500 PLN per month for child if youre poor and unemployed. what happened is all the uneducated people dropped their shitty tier jobs because they can earn more sitting at home and producing more retarded kids. at the same time all educated people with good job are getting taxed into hell to afford that. people from fields like IT are leaving the country, ill do the same as soon as i can. most people in IT are going to lose 20-30% of their salary since PIS wants to increase tax on people working B2B (literally everyone in IT) by 100%.

Theres like two million ukraininans here, but they just come over the border to go to free unis, get a job for a while and then they fuck off.
I dont think they are that big of a problem but then again I live in Poland A.

stop reading wyborcza hurr durr Jaro will attack Moscow to avenge jhis brothers de3ath xddd

>t. butthurt braindead polack washing dishes in UK

t. braindead polack virgin fuckboi from a comie family with a fag daddy believing in leftie propaganda. fuck you Warsaw cuck

hurr durr yh sure all million of Poles in the Uk all work on zmywaks xddddd suck jew cock more

judging from your writing style you are unfit of anything else. back to wykop you idiot.

>“We want to make Poland a truly sovereign nation
>keep offending and angering russia

Over 1 million Ukrainian s went there since Russia 'peacefully' occupied their land.

how is situation in russian media? how do they portray our current government?

back to sucking jew cock ! shekels wont be earned by themselves :)))

When will the fucking political left and these cucks as OP die out?

independent means not being afraid of russkies.. you have your Dugin and Zhyrinovski right? talking about how primitve Central Slavs are etc.. well fuck you :) We can say same shit about you and all you can do is cry in your govt vontrolled media

when we open up death camps for them bruh :))

I am personally cosidering making a Polish News thread on Sup Forums sooner or later desu no cucks allowed

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Nothing special. Muh russophobia as usual.

>someone uses rational arguments that abolish your utopian views
>guess I just call him a cuck

Neck yourself.

What did we get out of invasion of Iraq?
What did we get ouf of Aghanistan?
What did we get out of sitting in balkan shitholes?
What did we get out of EU, other than pointless fucking regulations?
Nothing.

>how is situation in russian media?
Every one is still hangovered from Trump winning.
> how do they portray our current government?
No how, nobody cares about Poland anyway.

Elaborate, i am not stupid as you are.

When did Kaczynski actually say he want's to leave the EU. The Kaczynski's signed the Lisbon treaty handing over Polish sovereignty to the euro-bureaucrats.

stop responding to the uk guy, hes obviously not very intelligent

what are we gonna get from leaving it all and having hostile relationship with every single neighboring country?

We are going to regain independence and freedom to have our own fucking relationships with countries instead of EU and NATO imposed ones.
Here you go, a guide for you.

yeah, freedom to get assraped by russia when the time comes. thats a wonderful choice isnt it?
i doubt NATO would go all out in case of attack on us, but still, that is better than nothing. right now we have tons of NATO forces on our eastern borders.

Sounds like something our late president would say before he got Hagued.

Why cant you have both? We now have Trump/Putin. There is room here for a global 'national' of the radical right

>MUH RUSSIA MUH RUSSIA
WHAT DOES RUSSIA GET OUT OF INVADING POLAND YOU STUPID FUCKING CUNT?

They have FOUR TIMES AS MUCH natural resources AND IN SOME CASES 8 TO FUCKING GORILLION TIMES more.

Why the FUCK would they invade some irrelevent state that would fight back extremely hard and would be virtually impossible to hold?

Seems in general Poland is much more concerned about Russia than Russians are about Poland. Kind of a disconnect.

Even Alexander Dugin, who is very much a Russian imperialist, does not include Poland in the 'Russkiy Mir' which needs to be reclaimed. Also, Poland would gain from Ukraine breaking apart. They can get Lwow back!

poland has one of the most strategically important locations in europe you dipshit.
its the same reason they took part of ukraine, to get better strategic position and access to other parts of the world.

Russia would rather be allies with both Poland and Hungary, against the remaining cuck countries, of which the US just removed itself from

We don't want Lwów, it's full of Ukrainians.

>become

>the most strategically important locations
aka. We're a fucking buffer nation.

Now if ONLY we could act as a proper buffer between NATO and Russia and dissolve all tensions forever because no Russian or NATO troop could step into our borders...

Stop watching TV.

to be honest id like some kind of alliance with russia, thing is it would most likely end in their iron rule which is not cool at all.
although something like union of V4 countries so we are not little, then this union cooperating with russia, that would be nice i think. of course russia not dictating anything to us and same other way.

>go full retard again pissing off their neighbors
It wasn't us who went full-retard, though...

Should've flied that plane :^)

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I bet you are some retarded cuckhole trying to mimic polyak.

too many ukrainians, the city is ruined now

we are not important enough economically (like Switzerland) to be truly safe being neutral, nobody cares about us when we are alone.

Yeah, thats really best for all. I mean, eastern europeans have similar values to each other, so it makes sense.

Poland being key allies of fucking Sweden, thats like being an ally with Saudi Arabia in terms of cultural differences.

I think Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, Czechs (maybe Austrians even, if they elect Hofer) should exit EU and form their own customs union. This bloc can being rapprochement with Russia, and maybe get some goodies when Ukraine is snaffled

>we absolutely need to hang at EU's tit
Kill yourself you fucking traitor.

You EU shills WANT to make us dependent on EU so we literally WILL BE Mexico and then Germany can build a wall on our border.

Kill yourself or we will do it for you, as everyone selling our country to foreign interests will be a tree decoration soon.

Poland has good agriculture. Better than Ukraine in many ways. Apples!

Remember what EU did to Greece. Poland does not need humiliation of paying debnts

yh lets become an unimportant shithole like Finland hurr durr neutrality xdd better just stop rebuilding our army because it could provoke Putin xddd

just kill yourself faggot

thats it im making a Polish news thread.

we are absolutely unable to found any friendly relationships with russia as long as we have the current government though.
>muh smolensk
>muh crashing plane with no survivors set up by russia

>germany
>ever extending a hand with help
Literally the only reason they ever help anyone is when they act in their own self-interest; see the definition of "reich" and how it relates to EU.

fuck off russkie sympathiser jesus i hope you are just a russkie from UFA with a polish vpn

>Not knowing Poland is the greatest parasite of the EU
Kek, you should actually read about politics before commenting stupid shit like that you muppet

i think not having russia right at their border is part of their self-interests

yeah, i think desu Jaroslaw is clutching at straws there. It was an accident. I know he was very close to his brother and misses him, but these things happen. Remember Munich disaster. It wasnt a conspiracy by Liverpool.

Time heals. But in the meantime, Poland must make sure that the cucks dont get back into power. Civic platform are CANCER

Fuck Poland and fuck Polish people.

so why are they in ukraine then?

they have 8 fucking gorillion times more resources than fucking luhansk, but still they're there

Who the fuck is Dugin?

This desu senpai

>t. Polaczek w jukej
Walizy spakowane?

Why Belarus? Why?

> Being Russki
> Not watching Tsargrad TV for breaking geopolitical analysis.
> topkek Ivan

Mostly memes

>so why are they in ukraine then?
Because Crimea had a shitton of Russians in the first place and it's a leftover from USSR's retarded internal bordering.

Yes Crimea was in Ukraine's borders, but it was filled with fucking ruskies.

And I KNOW Putin sent in the green men, but this doesn't change the facts.

>what EU did to greece

yeah greeks are degenerates who cant even form a society better than the one they had 2500 years ago but its the EUs fault. sure

greece is literally worse than turkey

> Tsargrad TV
What is this? Are you making this shit up or something?

It doesn't have to invade anything nowadays, they just need to install a puppet government (eg. PiS) and exploit us just like in the good ol' times

All the countries are getting cool right wing parties and we stuck with these commies or liberals. FML.

What for Poland must leave EU? They feel good desu.

Crimea is also strategic for Russia, Ukraine previously had special agreement to let Russian navy operate in peninsula, and the junta threatened that. Would be like if Cyprus suddenly told UK to get the fuck out of Ekrhetori and Dhekelia

>leave EU
>leave NATO
the fuck are you rambing about you cretin, The Jarosław is very pro EU and pro nato. hell, he would shake hands with baelzebub himself had he promised to support Poland against russia. russia is the eternal enemy and The Jarosław knows that.

That was Lech, not Jaro

Also, people's opinions change over time. He's definitely acting in Russias interest right now, whether due to being a useful idiot with massive lust for power or by actually being on Kremlin's paycheck

> not watching political mudshark mental gymnastitcs
Fuck off, anglo.

just like Poland

fastest growing TV network in Russia desu. here is their youtube

youtube.com/user/tsargradtv

many people here unironically believe we are paying more to EU than they pay us.

So you're saying PO was in Poland's interest?

It's both ways. Greeks had an uncompetitive economy with lots of corruption and tax-evasion with a deficit and debt that was meme-worthy. However the EUs tyrannical approach to austerity and privatisation ripped apart the Greek state. Initially they aimed at upper- and middle class but now its mostly the lower- and middle class feeling the pain while aristocratic families don't give a single fuck.

Greeks should just get rid of their 25(?) aristocratic families

>countries act in their own interest
holy shit you might be onto something here

they couldn't defend themself and the gain - lose ratio suggested putin to take it. and he took it for almost free. (sanctions were a big raught from what I know tho). the thing is: this can't be repeated with poland, poland can defend itself reletively well and even if they conquer poland the local population simply won't cooperate and you would see terrorist attacks etc. There is simply almost nothing to gain from attacking poland, it would only be throwing money out of the window.

implying the real solution isnt to elect based Golden Dawn

What about him?

greece needs to restart their entire society. if no one pays tax why would you start? but no they protest constantly. no one talks about how the EU fucked up the baltic states, because when they had economic trouble they shut up and dealt with it. greece is just a whiny nation thats dragging the rest of the EU down

they were certainly better at foreign policy

but they're also conservative cucks at catholic church's mercy so i'd never vote for them either

>50k subs
>not even a single video above 2k views on first page
This is the most irrelevant channel I've ever saw. How did you even find that?

voting for Ozjasz Godlberg.. get out jew

I don't think that PiS is a russian puppet gov, they are acting well too dumb for such.

all PO did was reversable, 500+ is irreversable. PiS is worse than PO, but that doesn't mean I vote PO fyi. Its about facts, because the myth that PiS is better / the same is simply false.

Tell me, mah niga, nahuya vi nam nuzhny?

This. The anti-Russian shilling is getting kida pathetic.

kek, get out faggot, this fag supports PO- a party funded by Soros whos leader is now the President of EU for his governance of the Polish district of the EUSSR just FUCK YOU!

You wanted an empire from berlin to moscow. Definition of full retard.

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It's as if he's suggesting our self-interest lies in helping Germany's self-interests.

>When your country is getting fucked on 3 fronts by same countries over and over again and you keep being a pet to one of them like a battered wife

If you see a Pole making pro-russian statements - he's not a real Pole