“We want to make Poland a truly sovereign nation, whose actions -- taken in its own interest -- are are accepted by others,” Kaczynski said in Warsaw. “For years this wasn’t the case, but now we must fight this tough battle and we will, against our partners in the EU and other partners, such as in NATO, as well as domestic ones who still think in old-fashioned and harmful ways.”
>leave EU >leave NATO >keep offending and angering russia >get rekt in 3 days >oy vey how could it happen germany pls help
who /total retard government/ here? i just want off this train.
says czech republic, the country that actually has more money than it knows what to do with
we absolutely need to hang at EU's tit or we become mexico of europe
I hate this fucking country so much
Asher Scott
Sounds like they want to go "Poland strong" like 1920-1939 and go full retard again pissing off their neighbors. I can't blame them though, EU is cancer.
If they get support from Britain again I start laughing my ass off.
Easton Stewart
frankly, united europe would be goat, but not the bureaucratic pc overlord EU now is
Isaac Hill
pretty much this, sure there are immigrants and what not, but overall this country improved. tons of money and such. of course POLAND STRONK retards keep dishing some shitty infographics showing that we actually pay EU more than we get...
Logan Brooks
this
Levi Barnes
I just wish we could stop licking USA butt and restore relationships with Russia instead of portraying them as supreme evil, that's all.
Charles Phillips
stop trolling fag, nothing wrong with leaving EU, nobodys talking of leaving NATo.. litrally people dont listen or feed this faggit
Ayden Hall
...
Evan Murphy
youre not here, you dont know what is happening. so much changed in last year that leaving eu and nato, then starting war with russia (yes, our shitty military bravely starting the offense) doesnt sound impossible at all
Dominic Watson
You can have literally all the benefits of the EU including a combined military without having the free movement of people which destroys the nation states/races long term.
Just create an alliance of the sovereign nations, only bind them by the most relevant treaties (trade, military and Europe's borders) and be done with it. Give the people a chance to make their own country great and instill in them the idea that one nation might work towards strengthening another ally. Right now people just don't give a fuck about anything and are just like "yeah ok tax me shit don't even know why"... people lack purpose, lack political and geopolitical knowledge and definately lack propaganda... they only know pro US military propaganda thanks to hollywood and thats it.
Lucas Hughes
>sure there are immigrants What immigrants does Poland have now?
Colton Rodriguez
we dont have many, what i meant was >being ""forced"" to take immigrants is one of the cons that is one of biggest reasons why our shitty ass catholic-retard government was elected, because they strongly opposed it, saying it would cost too much etc., at the same time they turned our country into socialist shithole. they bought votes with 500+ which is 500 PLN per month for child if youre poor and unemployed. what happened is all the uneducated people dropped their shitty tier jobs because they can earn more sitting at home and producing more retarded kids. at the same time all educated people with good job are getting taxed into hell to afford that. people from fields like IT are leaving the country, ill do the same as soon as i can. most people in IT are going to lose 20-30% of their salary since PIS wants to increase tax on people working B2B (literally everyone in IT) by 100%.
Jacob Morgan
Theres like two million ukraininans here, but they just come over the border to go to free unis, get a job for a while and then they fuck off. I dont think they are that big of a problem but then again I live in Poland A.
Chase Powell
stop reading wyborcza hurr durr Jaro will attack Moscow to avenge jhis brothers de3ath xddd
William Wright
>t. butthurt braindead polack washing dishes in UK
Andrew Foster
t. braindead polack virgin fuckboi from a comie family with a fag daddy believing in leftie propaganda. fuck you Warsaw cuck
hurr durr yh sure all million of Poles in the Uk all work on zmywaks xddddd suck jew cock more
Levi Russell
judging from your writing style you are unfit of anything else. back to wykop you idiot.
Mason Brown
>“We want to make Poland a truly sovereign nation >keep offending and angering russia
Justin Reed
Over 1 million Ukrainian s went there since Russia 'peacefully' occupied their land.
Thomas Brown
how is situation in russian media? how do they portray our current government?
Joshua White
back to sucking jew cock ! shekels wont be earned by themselves :)))
Brayden Kelly
When will the fucking political left and these cucks as OP die out?
Austin Rogers
independent means not being afraid of russkies.. you have your Dugin and Zhyrinovski right? talking about how primitve Central Slavs are etc.. well fuck you :) We can say same shit about you and all you can do is cry in your govt vontrolled media
Zachary Collins
when we open up death camps for them bruh :))
I am personally cosidering making a Polish News thread on Sup Forums sooner or later desu no cucks allowed
Jacob Gutierrez
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Parker Garcia
Nothing special. Muh russophobia as usual.
Alexander Sullivan
>someone uses rational arguments that abolish your utopian views >guess I just call him a cuck
Matthew Long
Neck yourself.
What did we get out of invasion of Iraq? What did we get ouf of Aghanistan? What did we get out of sitting in balkan shitholes? What did we get out of EU, other than pointless fucking regulations? Nothing.
Josiah Peterson
>how is situation in russian media? Every one is still hangovered from Trump winning. > how do they portray our current government? No how, nobody cares about Poland anyway.
Elaborate, i am not stupid as you are.
Wyatt Lee
When did Kaczynski actually say he want's to leave the EU. The Kaczynski's signed the Lisbon treaty handing over Polish sovereignty to the euro-bureaucrats.
Robert Morris
stop responding to the uk guy, hes obviously not very intelligent
what are we gonna get from leaving it all and having hostile relationship with every single neighboring country?
Jayden Lewis
We are going to regain independence and freedom to have our own fucking relationships with countries instead of EU and NATO imposed ones. Here you go, a guide for you.
Asher Richardson
yeah, freedom to get assraped by russia when the time comes. thats a wonderful choice isnt it? i doubt NATO would go all out in case of attack on us, but still, that is better than nothing. right now we have tons of NATO forces on our eastern borders.
Jason Anderson
Sounds like something our late president would say before he got Hagued.
Grayson Reyes
Why cant you have both? We now have Trump/Putin. There is room here for a global 'national' of the radical right
Anthony Watson
>MUH RUSSIA MUH RUSSIA WHAT DOES RUSSIA GET OUT OF INVADING POLAND YOU STUPID FUCKING CUNT?
They have FOUR TIMES AS MUCH natural resources AND IN SOME CASES 8 TO FUCKING GORILLION TIMES more.
Why the FUCK would they invade some irrelevent state that would fight back extremely hard and would be virtually impossible to hold?
Jace Smith
Seems in general Poland is much more concerned about Russia than Russians are about Poland. Kind of a disconnect.
Even Alexander Dugin, who is very much a Russian imperialist, does not include Poland in the 'Russkiy Mir' which needs to be reclaimed. Also, Poland would gain from Ukraine breaking apart. They can get Lwow back!
Brody Jackson
poland has one of the most strategically important locations in europe you dipshit. its the same reason they took part of ukraine, to get better strategic position and access to other parts of the world.
Charles Rogers
Russia would rather be allies with both Poland and Hungary, against the remaining cuck countries, of which the US just removed itself from
Julian Brown
We don't want Lwów, it's full of Ukrainians.
Tyler Evans
>become
Jayden James
>the most strategically important locations aka. We're a fucking buffer nation.
Now if ONLY we could act as a proper buffer between NATO and Russia and dissolve all tensions forever because no Russian or NATO troop could step into our borders...
Stop watching TV.
Ryder Mitchell
to be honest id like some kind of alliance with russia, thing is it would most likely end in their iron rule which is not cool at all. although something like union of V4 countries so we are not little, then this union cooperating with russia, that would be nice i think. of course russia not dictating anything to us and same other way.
Julian Stewart
>go full retard again pissing off their neighbors It wasn't us who went full-retard, though...
Joshua Sanchez
Should've flied that plane :^)
Xavier Davis
this
Daniel Jenkins
I bet you are some retarded cuckhole trying to mimic polyak.
Justin Perez
too many ukrainians, the city is ruined now
we are not important enough economically (like Switzerland) to be truly safe being neutral, nobody cares about us when we are alone.
Parker James
Yeah, thats really best for all. I mean, eastern europeans have similar values to each other, so it makes sense.
Poland being key allies of fucking Sweden, thats like being an ally with Saudi Arabia in terms of cultural differences.
I think Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, Czechs (maybe Austrians even, if they elect Hofer) should exit EU and form their own customs union. This bloc can being rapprochement with Russia, and maybe get some goodies when Ukraine is snaffled
Anthony Clark
>we absolutely need to hang at EU's tit Kill yourself you fucking traitor.
You EU shills WANT to make us dependent on EU so we literally WILL BE Mexico and then Germany can build a wall on our border.
Kill yourself or we will do it for you, as everyone selling our country to foreign interests will be a tree decoration soon.
Carson Ross
Poland has good agriculture. Better than Ukraine in many ways. Apples!
Mason Baker
Remember what EU did to Greece. Poland does not need humiliation of paying debnts
Sebastian Lopez
yh lets become an unimportant shithole like Finland hurr durr neutrality xdd better just stop rebuilding our army because it could provoke Putin xddd
just kill yourself faggot
thats it im making a Polish news thread.
Brayden Clark
we are absolutely unable to found any friendly relationships with russia as long as we have the current government though. >muh smolensk >muh crashing plane with no survivors set up by russia
Noah Harris
>germany >ever extending a hand with help Literally the only reason they ever help anyone is when they act in their own self-interest; see the definition of "reich" and how it relates to EU.
William Martinez
fuck off russkie sympathiser jesus i hope you are just a russkie from UFA with a polish vpn
Elijah Jones
>Not knowing Poland is the greatest parasite of the EU Kek, you should actually read about politics before commenting stupid shit like that you muppet
Blake Cooper
i think not having russia right at their border is part of their self-interests
Parker Edwards
yeah, i think desu Jaroslaw is clutching at straws there. It was an accident. I know he was very close to his brother and misses him, but these things happen. Remember Munich disaster. It wasnt a conspiracy by Liverpool.
Time heals. But in the meantime, Poland must make sure that the cucks dont get back into power. Civic platform are CANCER
Logan Davis
Fuck Poland and fuck Polish people.
Dylan Hughes
so why are they in ukraine then?
they have 8 fucking gorillion times more resources than fucking luhansk, but still they're there
Christopher Kelly
Who the fuck is Dugin?
Kayden Myers
This desu senpai
Jayden Perry
>t. Polaczek w jukej Walizy spakowane?
Adam Jenkins
Why Belarus? Why?
Connor Davis
> Being Russki > Not watching Tsargrad TV for breaking geopolitical analysis. > topkek Ivan
Landon Fisher
Mostly memes
Parker Mitchell
>so why are they in ukraine then? Because Crimea had a shitton of Russians in the first place and it's a leftover from USSR's retarded internal bordering.
Yes Crimea was in Ukraine's borders, but it was filled with fucking ruskies.
And I KNOW Putin sent in the green men, but this doesn't change the facts.
Jacob Stewart
>what EU did to greece
yeah greeks are degenerates who cant even form a society better than the one they had 2500 years ago but its the EUs fault. sure
greece is literally worse than turkey
Jacob Brown
> Tsargrad TV What is this? Are you making this shit up or something?
Cooper Martin
It doesn't have to invade anything nowadays, they just need to install a puppet government (eg. PiS) and exploit us just like in the good ol' times
Samuel Green
All the countries are getting cool right wing parties and we stuck with these commies or liberals. FML.
Anthony Myers
What for Poland must leave EU? They feel good desu.
Logan Cook
Crimea is also strategic for Russia, Ukraine previously had special agreement to let Russian navy operate in peninsula, and the junta threatened that. Would be like if Cyprus suddenly told UK to get the fuck out of Ekrhetori and Dhekelia
Jeremiah Green
>leave EU >leave NATO the fuck are you rambing about you cretin, The Jarosław is very pro EU and pro nato. hell, he would shake hands with baelzebub himself had he promised to support Poland against russia. russia is the eternal enemy and The Jarosław knows that.
Nolan Hill
That was Lech, not Jaro
Also, people's opinions change over time. He's definitely acting in Russias interest right now, whether due to being a useful idiot with massive lust for power or by actually being on Kremlin's paycheck
Angel Hill
> not watching political mudshark mental gymnastitcs Fuck off, anglo.
Andrew Jackson
just like Poland
Christopher Diaz
fastest growing TV network in Russia desu. here is their youtube
many people here unironically believe we are paying more to EU than they pay us.
Christian Lewis
So you're saying PO was in Poland's interest?
Jeremiah Gonzalez
It's both ways. Greeks had an uncompetitive economy with lots of corruption and tax-evasion with a deficit and debt that was meme-worthy. However the EUs tyrannical approach to austerity and privatisation ripped apart the Greek state. Initially they aimed at upper- and middle class but now its mostly the lower- and middle class feeling the pain while aristocratic families don't give a single fuck.
Greeks should just get rid of their 25(?) aristocratic families
Jeremiah Nguyen
>countries act in their own interest holy shit you might be onto something here
Owen Barnes
they couldn't defend themself and the gain - lose ratio suggested putin to take it. and he took it for almost free. (sanctions were a big raught from what I know tho). the thing is: this can't be repeated with poland, poland can defend itself reletively well and even if they conquer poland the local population simply won't cooperate and you would see terrorist attacks etc. There is simply almost nothing to gain from attacking poland, it would only be throwing money out of the window.
Elijah Butler
implying the real solution isnt to elect based Golden Dawn
John Richardson
What about him?
Anthony Edwards
greece needs to restart their entire society. if no one pays tax why would you start? but no they protest constantly. no one talks about how the EU fucked up the baltic states, because when they had economic trouble they shut up and dealt with it. greece is just a whiny nation thats dragging the rest of the EU down
Luis Kelly
they were certainly better at foreign policy
but they're also conservative cucks at catholic church's mercy so i'd never vote for them either
Jaxon Moore
>50k subs >not even a single video above 2k views on first page This is the most irrelevant channel I've ever saw. How did you even find that?
Benjamin Carter
voting for Ozjasz Godlberg.. get out jew
Joshua Peterson
I don't think that PiS is a russian puppet gov, they are acting well too dumb for such.
all PO did was reversable, 500+ is irreversable. PiS is worse than PO, but that doesn't mean I vote PO fyi. Its about facts, because the myth that PiS is better / the same is simply false.
Ethan Jones
Tell me, mah niga, nahuya vi nam nuzhny?
Jace Phillips
This. The anti-Russian shilling is getting kida pathetic.
Zachary Cooper
kek, get out faggot, this fag supports PO- a party funded by Soros whos leader is now the President of EU for his governance of the Polish district of the EUSSR just FUCK YOU!
Ryder Davis
You wanted an empire from berlin to moscow. Definition of full retard.
Henry Ramirez
4,76
Dominic Powell
It's as if he's suggesting our self-interest lies in helping Germany's self-interests.
>When your country is getting fucked on 3 fronts by same countries over and over again and you keep being a pet to one of them like a battered wife
Liam Ortiz
If you see a Pole making pro-russian statements - he's not a real Pole