ILLUMINATI COULD BE BEHIND TRUMP TO CONTROL THE OPPOSITION (US)?

Is there a 100% proof that Donald Trump is NOT a controlled opposition and (PIC RELATED) is NOT behind him to do so?

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Donald Trump could be controlled opposition, but there's also the possibility that he could be an infiltrator. Since I'm an eternal optimist and always will be, I'd like to think that he's an infiltrator.

A Billionaire, as measured in fiat shekels, would have the most to lose from anything interrupting the (((current order))).

What would be the diference between an infiltrator and controlled opposition? Infiltrator as in he made a mess that illuminati (who push liberal agendas) haven't foreseen and done goofed?

Also, it scares me, that Trump shits so much on Republicans (as in the party and it's politicians), to make himself look like a anti-establishment, Republicans shit on him, YET he was pushed by the republican party insterd of their any other candidate. Sure, probably any other candidate would not win, but since he is (supposedly) anti-democrat and anti-republican, republicans had nothing to gain from his win. How come he was actually pushed to the moon by them, nominated, and actually won the elections (since the system is rigged as fuck and if the illuminati wanted Hillary to win, thwy would make it happen)?

Not to mention, he is friends with people from trilatteral commision - the same people who shake hands with those who pushed Hilary's campaign.

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>Implying that the illuminati, masons (and any other secret societies), commies, socialists and elites are not the same thing.

Reptilians is just a stupid theory created by David Icke, who is a controlled alternative thinker to make truthers look like goofballs.

Another anti-trump reason I just recalled, he was promoted by "head alternative media", like Alex Jones, who is 100% controlled by the illuminati (look it up on youtube).

he gave a speech to aipac where he expressed his support for israel and their one state solution. his son in law is jewish. the fuck were nazis doing voting for him?

David Icke is the real deal. Daily reminder that David Icke was right about former UK Prime Minister Ted Heath being a child molester SEVENTEEN YEARS before the London Police were investigating claims that Ted Heath molested children in August of last year. If Icke was right about that (and he WAS, of course), he's right about interdimensional shapeshifting lizard-people. Truth is stranger than fiction.

If there's one thing that isn't true it's Ted Heath being a child molester - you dumb fuck.

Fuck off you retard, Ted Heath was not ONLY a child molestor but also a CHILD KILLER. You are DENYING A CRIME, YOU DISGUSTING ANIMAL. HANG YOUR HEAD IN SHAME.

>he was right about one thing so he must be right about the other

Bro, this is how controlled alternative media work. Illuminati tell them some truths that they can say publically for them to gain credibility, and in the same time, create disinformation with fake, over the top theoriesbacked up with no proofs, and over the top acting (Alex Jones). This way, the other side thinks the truthers are nut-jobs, so they automatically discredit anything they say (and thus - those few truths are regarded as fairytales).

Icke also said he is the Christ, he is a new age guy, like those who created Zeitgeist movies, he took teachings from people like Helena Blavatsky from her books. If you want a good video about Icke, which exposes him I can give you a youtube link, it's long, but worth watching.

Gee, you think?

>proving a negative

Kys

It is high potentiality wich is unconfirmed for now.
Also im interested what exactly is the quality wich means that Trump is antiestablishment, can someone elaborate?
It is truly a madness if pro-trumpsters will be trolled.
We will see if Trump implements his promises.

I was mostly thinking that if this was going to be the case, it was because the globalists split up into two groups. They disagreed along the way with something, as you see with Soros and his unpopularity on both sides and his publicity versus the others' secrecy. So maybe it's just Globalists vs Globalists v2.

Trump will be a puppet shill. He will be Bush 2.0 in that Pence will do everything for him. He has already backed out of major promises before even taking office.

Sup Forums doesn't want to believe this yet. They really are the most blue-pilled board

Literally points #1 to #second-last can be regarded just as liberal people standing behind her. The last one doesn't make sense though, indeed. But I wouldn't consider this as a 100% proof Trump is not controlled opposition. Sometimes you have to pay some price to have your agenda work and be beliveable, and this much money is nothing for those who control money...

I think the same about Hitler, that he was a banker agent. It would make sense that they would use someone to be the "Hitler" of WWIII.

I hope I'm wrong and it's obvious to support him over Clinton if for no other reason so he can buy the Overton property, demolish the old building and build a resort far to the right of where the old one stood. And to give support to the burgeoning rightist movement in Europe.

Optimism is cowardice.

They pushed any other candidate when they could. They tried to be big boys and accept him but reverted to childish career saving attempts by denouncing him after the Access Hollywood crap. Now that he's won, he's trying to keep Washington from crumbling apart entirely. I don't know about you, Pyotr, but for the most part, people don't want entire demolition of their governments. That usually leads to mass starvation.

We'll see.

But then, who would be those "globbalists v2", who favour white people and conservative ideas (definately not jews, not banksters, not satanists, not secret societies, then WHO)? What do they gain from those ideas? How do these ideas work in favour for them to achieve globalisation?

Careful with that edge, boy.

I wonder if him losing a billion dollars motivated him to get revenge...

He could damage the picture of what real anti-establishment and anti-globalisation is if he does some fucked up things as a president, and I am scared this may happen. They put him there to do some fucked up things to make us look like retards, and thus make the uproar of libaralism even stronger.

Reptilians is a metaphor, for "Jews".

You seem perturbed.

Such as what? Obamacare? He's repealing it but not the parts that are actually workable with his own Healthcare plans and keep people alive.

You're a complete retard if you think completely repealing Obamacare just stick it to that pussy is a good idea.

What other ideas has he reneged on?

Read his books, watch his videos. He unironically states all theories about reptilians as facts.

I don't mean that they have polar different ideas. More like the Globalists v2 are fucking up some plans for the main Globalists by, instead of going for the Master Plan for its original purpose, are doing things now in favor of personal gain. They have strayed from the path, if you will. But by no means do they favor conservative ideas. It's like Revan vs Malak... kind of.

Do you believe that the talking 'serpent' described in the Bible is literally a talking serpent?

dafug

But why would they do this then? What would be the point that they don't agree on so much that they divided like that? Because you yourself said they really wouldn't favor conservative ideas (globalists v2), so what would it be? I get what you are saying but looking at the bigger picture, there's not a huge ground for this theory to work on.

I guess so. In a way it doesn't make sense. But it would be the only way I would attribute Trump being a Globalist puppet. But you're right, it makes no sense.

Why not? Lucifer could and can appear as any creature, he never looks the same, why wouldn't he appear as a talking serpent? He appeared to many different people in the history as different persons, even as an "alien" (for example to Aleister Crowley).

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No, in all likelihood, these passed 4 years could have been all one big reverse psychology play by the Illuminati and it worked. Since no matter who wins they would remain in control.

If anyone was an infiltrator it had to be Bernie Sanders.

Also I would add this video: youtube.com/watch?v=JFI6m6Icav4

People that pushed this lying video are the same people pushing David Icke, and it's a simple conclusion after watching those 2 videos.

>Bernie
But then he did a 180 degree turn and started promoting Hillary right? I think the only infiltrator in recent history may have been Ron Paul.

Trump is the real deal.

Imagine how quickly things will change after the next step.

The illuminati is in for a real big treat!

Zeitgeist was obvious disinfo, mixed with truth.

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Exactly, just like Icke is.

Who are these people?

>is there a 100 percent proof against this
buddy you need to take a damn break, that's called schizo logic. maybe read some analytical philosophy or something, learn to be skeptical, that's how the red pill works. it can also stop you from getting distracted with stupid bullshit like this. consider possibilities, sure, but fuck man.

THE EYE ON THE PYRAMID IS NOTHING COMPARED TO THE EAR ON THE CUBE!

ALL HEARING EAR HEARS ALL

all presidents are controlled.
>he thinks you can vote out corruption
top kek! get a load of this retard

So, you have this 100% proof then? I was just asking, and where do you have bullshit in this consideration? What's the point on which consideration/skepticism turns into schozo logic?

no, skepticism in a nutshell mean you dont accept things WITHOUT proof. you can still consider possibilities that concern you, even take some preparations in case they turn out that way, but getting to the point where you derail all of your efforts cause of a possibility is getting irrational. if trump turns, i assume it'll be because he sells out in the future, i don't see him being a snake in the grass. also the illuminati was killed a long time ago by rosicrusians, if you bother to even read wikipedia. secret societies also don't control shit anymore, its mostly the building of pacts between businesses and politicians that the spooky shit comes from.

Let's let this thread live a little longer please ;)

Tfw we might have gotten cucked

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Donald Trump is "Good, close friends" with Lucky Larry Silverstein).

You have been had, bro.

Not being a member of the Bilderberg group, club of Rome, or UN is good enough for me.

Iche is a shifter too YouTube him

I did not. I stopped believing in Trump's good will some time before elections (or Selections as it should be called), at least since summer of this year. PIC RELATED is my thread from weeks ago actually. I made this one to be rather calmer than the previous one to have more logical conversation than it was last time.

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Nowadays it's very common to hold pessimistic views, regardless of your political beliefs. It takes courage to believe that things will get better.

Well there ya go.

The simple question to ask is not "Is he....?"

It's: "What sort of Establishment conspiracy would only bother to play one side?"

The whole point of rigging the system is that you emerge in control, no matter what the outcome.

checked and confirm

Duterte shifts everywhere he goes

Yes, but Icke is a benevolent reptilian. Just as there are benevolent humans and malevolent humans, there are also benevolent reptilians and malevolent reptilians. And benevolent reptilians can become malevolent reptilians, just like how malevolent reptilians can become benevolent reptilians.

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Fun story: I am Polish, and back in 80s we were under communism from USSR. We had our own Trump back then, Lech Wałęsa - he was on the lead of the anti-goverment, anti-communist party called Solidarność. Basically current day Trump. And as it turned out in recent history, he was just a set up agent called Bolek, who was meant to tone down all the anti-establishment movements, and to do as much damage control as possible, thus now, today, we still have post-communists in our goverment (and zionist jews too). The main alternative media was a newspaper called Gazeta Wyborcza (that would have been like today's Alex Jones), today - they spread all teh leftist, zionic, globalistic agendas, and are literally paid by G. Soros. They were all set up agents and controlled oppositions, and if you would have said this about them back then, people would laugh you off.

I used to frequent a famous club in nyc. To this day my friend and the dude we brought would swear to you they saw shapeshifters and neither knew about reptilians.

I got kicked out just before they saw them. I was close with one of them and a week later when I asked him if it looked like a lizard or a reptile he freaked and agreed profusely. I trusted that nigger more than any other person at that time in my life, he was not a liar.

Sounds like shifter talk to me
C mere for a second....
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Then the most simple explanations are

1) These organizations are so above society that their games no longer directly affect us and the people who are "in control" are literally exactly what they are at face value because the gap between us and the actual game being played has become too far apart for it to affect us as it once had

2) The game being played is so magnificently huge that not only was Trump winning a part of their plan but these riots they're forcing is a part of the plan as well in order to secure the public's trust and admiration of Trump making him a value game piece after he has rallied the majority of us

3) Both Trump and Hillary are a part of the same organization and we, Sup Forums and the general alt-right as a whole, have actually been brainwashed which is why libshits and SJWs don't make sense to us on a logical level and why we've grown contempt of them, because in a way we are a cult and don't realize it

4) Our paranoia has led us to overestimating the enemy and everything is literally at legitimate face-value, global conspiracies really are this inept and shoddy while previous schemes have gotten past through sheer dumb luck and the benefit of hiding low and letting the enemy overestimate them


I think 4 is the most likely, since Rothschild claimed the very key to power was to assume the image of power, at which point you would have all the power in the world given to you.

My 2 cents


Originally trump was only there to push millennials off of republicanism. He had no chance to win realistically, considering the tight grip hillary had over the predominantly leftist media.

But they thought up a better idea.


Since everybody expected hillary to win (rigging etc) they pulled a 180° and allowed trump to win. This will cause a disillusion between the camp. He was "crusading" against the liberals to expose the rigged system only for them to rig it in his favor.

The happenings will hit fast and hard over the next 4 years. They want to stage as much false flags to create an illusion that the republican party is no good anymore.

11/25/16 is when the next big happening will be.

remember Sup Forums has shills from all sides
the whole board is grounds for social engineering.
Seems to have worked.

There is only one 100% proof. Waiting for his first 100 days.

Trump has Jesuit ties
Jesuits are the antithesis of Nazism
I live with a Nazi and he is hypnotized by Trump and dosen t know what a Jesuit is

I came here thinking this board knew the score

Thanks for the history lesson, hopefully we don t repeat the same story

We have a guy here we all know
Back in the day one of my friends, while on mushrooms, saw this guy go reptile
Years later he s always causing trouble with everyone in alien ways, like he dosen t know how humans act. I ve been waiting for him to stab someone at a party.

I dated a girl who was allegedly kidnapped by Satanists as a baby, freemason grandfather.
I had a party, she passed out drunk early. I did some high quality Peruvian LSD.
I saw her face shifting like she was Krishna en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krishna

Freaked me right out

She couldn t act normal at all and I won t go near her anymore she was so mental

Yep, exactly my thoughts.

Well thought out.

Guys - seriously now. Trump may as well be the next Biblical "Antichrist". "Children, it is the last hour; and just as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, so now many antichrists have appeared. This is how we know it is the last hour. "

It s all fake
Both sides are owned
Voting is for the slaves

What we call 'the world' is an infinitely small frequency band. It is not solid as most people think it is, because the atoms that compose 'the world' are made of empty space. Furthermore, 'the world' as we know it does not even exist 'out there' - it exists only 'in here' and is projected by us only when we tune in to it. What we call 'ghosts' are beings that are so close to our frequency band that they can 'bleed' through like a form of broadcasting interference. A radio accurately tuned to a radio station frequency will produce a clear, sharp reception with no interference, but when the dial is slightly off-centre, another station or stations can be heard alongside the main one. What we call 'ghosts' are based on the same basic principle and reptilians are basically beings that we could think of as 'ghosts' in that they inhabit a frequency band that vibrates very closely to the one we inhabit. To us, a 'ghost' would not look solid - but to that 'ghost', we are the ones who would not look solid. There are an infinite number of frequency bands and they all share the same space usually without interfering with each other.

Doubles confirm

We're not so genetically diverse that literally every human is 100% unique, a great deal of us look fairly similar but there are massive differences when you study in detail.
Even those two guys on the bottom look different, even without shaving it's easy to distinguish between the two and if they were both shaved I'm sure it would be far easier since 40% of their face wouldn't be hidden.

20% of the time "ghosts" are hallucinations brought on by infra-sound, the majority of hunted houses are near highways, airports, or rivers.
Infra-sound can cause small vibrations in the air which affect your eyes and ears causing auditory and visual hallucinations.
The other 80% of the time is people spooking themselves to the point where they imagine shit.

Good for you bro for seeing through the controlled paradigms
I have a lot of leafs to wake up before the day of the rake comes

He and others think the British crown is reptilian in nature. Not Jews.

So you can see everything there is to see and you can hear everything there is to hear?

>hunted
Haunted*

There's no source for Samuel Fox or Wilbur Ross being a Jew except some stormfront website arbitrarily labeling them as one. Some of the others listed I can't even find in relation to Trump.
When looking at the site where this information likely came from most of the people labeled as a Jew are done so without any source to it.

The people who secretly control this world have genes that are extraterrestrial in origin. They believe that this gives them 'the divine right to rule'. I do not adhere to any religion, but here's an interesting verse from the Bible about all of this:

"There were giants in the Earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown." - Genesis 6:4

People like the Rothschilds and the royal families of Europe are related by blood. Major world-leaders and banking dynasties are related by blood. They breed only among themselves to maintain their genetics. If they breed outside their circle, then their genetics will be diluted. Pic related (it's from a MAINSTREAM magazine, if I remember correctly).

The amount of people who know "secrets" that would get them killed is staggering.

Trigger warning: I'm a progressive swedcuck.

No, he's no illuminati or an establishment plant. Why? Because they want stability. They are milking the system so they don't want it to change too much as it could easily counterswing in another way and if they aren't powerful and in control when shit like China rising to the top of geopiltical influence they could lose al ot of their hold or be in a bad place to wager for it.

This doesn't mean that I think trump is somekind of meme-excalibur vs the establishment, far from it. He'll probably fall in line and only minimally fulfill what he promiesed but what Trump's victory has done however is started and rewarded a thirst for populist anti-establishment rhetoric which could lead to a more real candidate to push it further.

So no, believe in your guy. Trump might do great things, might make a lot of toxic liberals realize the kind of division they are causing and he might rock the establishment a bit.

(((Reptiles)))

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>YET he was pushed by the republican party
Congrats on outing yourself as not having paid attention to the primary at all.

This thread is retarded

Do you have proof that I'm NOT Donald Trump and I'm NOT currently controlling your mind to making illuminati shitposts on Sup Forums? And that I'm NOT extremely gay and that I'm NOT slowly turning you gay with my mind control?

Yeah, didn't think so. Now suck my dick.

Why does David Icke look like Ric Flair in this?

Never heard of Ric Flair.

There are literally more suggestions that he may be the part of the system than there are otherwise. look at this thread, look at his connections with trilatterral comission, look up his connection with Jesuits.

Donald Trump is for Donald Trump I guess
He´s not working for someone in the background primarly

He´s not like Clinton - Soros

>3) Both Trump and Hillary are a part of the same organization and we, Sup Forums and the general alt-right as a whole, have actually been brainwashed which is why libshits and SJWs don't make sense to us on a logical level and why we've grown contempt of them, because in a way we are a cult and don't realize it

This is the one that's true.

In fact, what is worse is that alt-rights and SJW are the same - indistinguishable.

Anyone who chooses a side is basically indulging in ego drama.

When the ego dominates the psyche, it denies the existence of any form of external consciousness, as it is unknowable, and the antithesis of ego. If you have ever watched a room full of coke heads, you will have seen how they get increasingly aggressive over a subject which a sober person will see they are all actually agreeing upon, but expressing in different words.

It is the same how in the 80s, NF and Antifa adopted each other's strategies and infiltrated and became indistinguishable in attitude and approach.

It's how New Labour adopted conservative economics and became indistinguishable from Tories.

It is how Democrats championed civil rights in the 60s and took the place of the GOP and its history of emancipating the slaves.

It's the Hegelian dialectic at work: thesis, antithesis, synthesis.

alt-right will feign "shock and insult" when someone "oppresses their point of view". They think they are being witty and using the SJWs weapons against them. But they are not: they are turning into them.

SJWs and alt-right are having their egos massaged: being told by various media they are either superior independent thinkers, or superior champions of the downtrodden.

While they remain trapped in ego drama, there can be no intellectualism coming from either side, and the elitists who seek only to maintain their position steal a head start on them.

Reactionary mindsets can only make use of what is handed to them. You must create your own situations to be true independents.

Please watch hypernormalisation.

>Observe what they did in Egypt.
>Observe what Russians have figured out
>Realize Trump is a pawn to get future generations to love the system and ask to be owned by it

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>Realize Trump is a pawn to get future generations to love the system and ask to be owned by it

This sounds like something I mentioned before: >Guys - seriously now. Trump may as well be the next Biblical "Antichrist". "Children, it is the last hour; and just as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, so now many antichrists have appeared. This is how we know it is the last hour. "

Also: "Then the beast was permitted to wage war against the saints and conquer them, and it was given authority over every tribe and people and tongue and nation. And all who dwell on the earth will worship the beast — all whose names have not been written from the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who was slain."

I was not convinced by hypernormalisation. I felt it dumbed down - or didn't understand - the global geopolitics. It felt like a lot of cherry picking and shoehorning of "events" into a pre-conceived narrative.

prisonplanet.com/donald-trump-has-said-he-will-not-accept-the-400000-presidents-salary.html

I would say that this is as close as 100% proof you are going to get.