How do you fix the electoral collage?
Can it be abolished?
or is the population still too concentrated in several areas that would result in the under representation of the rest of the nation?
is it still fair that major cities like NYC, Chicago, etc get to dictate to the rest of the state how to live?
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Republican votes in California would actually mean something if the electoral college was abolished.
If that happened, the next time Democrats won an election, they'd open the floodgates and we'd be Brazil 2.0 in less than a year.
eh,
only the super blue border states and cities would try that resulting in massive lawsuits
though its likely to speed up actual secession talk and real progress.
The electoral college is fine.
you could always make california worth 200 votes and new york worth 71 points for fair elections
>The electoral collage
electoral college is fine, people are just crybabies
The electoral college has been turned into a method to funnel landslide victories to the left.
They fucked up this time. They lost PA, and they lost FL. They then lost MI.
The left relies on grabbing all the most left leaning states in the nation, which also happen to offer the most electorates: NY, PA, CA, FL, IL. Their only mistake was TX, which will never go for their bullshit.
Then they'll turn around and bitch about the system, the system that they created to steal elections, when it backfires.
>How do you fix the electoral collage?
give each state one vote
And republican votes in every solid red state would be absolutely meaningless. Great post really made me think.
this, also a nation-wide anti faithless elector law
>How do you fix the electoral collage?
You don't. In fact I would recommend discouraging states from choosing their electors by popular vote.
We're a federal republic, not a democracy.
This is a start. Maybe also push secession for Northwest New Jersey. Make New York and Chicago city-states, or at least break their congressional districts off from the rest of the state like Maine and Nebraska. Sell Hawaii to Japan.
That, and
>"""fixing""" something which is performing exactly as it's supposed to
>The electoral college has been turned into a method to funnel landslide victories to the left.
in 2000 Bush won because of the electoral college vote.
>Then they'll turn around and bitch about the system, the system that they created to steal elections, when it backfires.
Hillary herself talked about eliminating the electoral college. So did Trump, until he was elected because of it.
>sell a state to a foreign government
Yeah nah cunt I'd literally start killing people and I don't even like Hawaii.
The electoral college is fine
The problem is, explaining to lefties that America is made up of a diverse group of states with widely varying demographics and interests is useless, because they always assume two things:
>everybody thinks like them
>everybody's needs are just like their needs (or the needs of whatever the current oppressed group they identify with are)
What you end up with is a political approach that refuses to acknowledge America's diversity in the same breath that it touts it so voraciously. In their "America", everybody lives side-by-side and somehow shares the exact same opinions while retaining complete diversity. As though difference of opinion wouldn't make people seek out different lifestyles or something.
So they don't understand why the electoral college could possibly be a good thing.
Why not? Most of the population is already Japanese, the rest are largely worthless subhumans. We already have a military presence in Australia and Japan. The French sold us Louisiana. The Russians sold us Alaska.
We don't lose anything in Hawaii except a virulent anti-White state, some kike billionaire vacation homes, and a place to park spicnigger sailors who shouldn't even be in this county in the first place.
Monarchy
This.
There's nothing in the constitution that requires our president be elected by any kind of vote by the people. The president is elected by the states themselves, the fact that each state holds a popular vote is merely a kind gesture of sorts.
A federal popular vote doesn't make sense in principle.
I think the electoral college isn't great. It would be better to go by the actually popular vote.
That being said, the majority of people are easily influenced, and the(((media))) has done that bigly, and not in a good way. So this time around, thank God the college exists.
If we could crack down on this lugenpresse, then we could go by popular vote, when votes aren't indirectly bought by you know who.
>How do you fix the electoral college?
What's wrong with it? I don't have to worry about the fraudulent votes from Chicago cancelling out mine, as long as I don't live in Illinois. If we abandon the EC, every deceased Chicago voter voting dem directly cancels out my vote.
>how do we make it so liberals always win?
Ftfy u cheating scum
> just split the country into a gorillion parts
> just sell it off
> in fact why don't we get rid of all countries and start over where ever single household goes to whichever new country it politically aligns with
what if instead of all the electoral votes going to one candidate, the electoral votes were split proportionally like in Nebraska and Maine?
Also this. Initially each state was supposed to get a vote, but then compromised by giving States with more people more delegates.
liberals want to fix it so they always win, god we need to start killing them
Don't fix what's not broke.
Our founding fathers were fucking brilliant with the entire system. The electoral college is essential to the preservation of our free Federal Republic.
>what if instead of all the electoral votes going to one candidate, the electoral votes were split proportionally like in Nebraska and Maine?
How is that functionally different from the popular vote?
The number of delegates doesn't accurately represent the populations, so smaller states would still have some influence?
Jefferson is an idea and movement that predates World War II. It is born from the distance of the rural farming communities in Northern California and Southern Oregon to the respective state capitols of Sacramento and Salem. There have been multiple secession and partition movements in the USA. New Jersey was originally split into east and west colonies.
It's about breaking up the Democratic advantage in the EC they created by flooding key states with shitskins and vote rigging in their stronghold cities.
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>modoc
man I love fallout 2
Make the electors bound by congressional district.
And for the two senate seats: which ever candidate wins the popular vote statewide takes those two.
That would literally make my republican vote meaningless because I live in a blue congressional district. I fucking hate Sup Forums and it's stupid ideas.
And I live in a blue state: it's not perfect but it'd work better. More people would be represented overall. And, it'd split up the guaranteed 55 electoral votes for democrats, too.
Take a bit off of the big states (NY, California, Texas) and add them to the states that have tiny numbers like 3 electoral votes. The big states should stay big, they have much more people at the end of the day, but it should be balanced so that Democrats can't count on winning just a fourth of the country + California to win.
It is necessary to mitigate damage done by voter fraud. You can't have California claiming to have 690 billion votes for Hillary to tip the election. One state cannot tilt the balance too heavily through questionable voting numbers.
they should throw everyone's vote in a spinny thing and spin it around and around and then reach in and pick a random vote and that's the president
Just split California into multiple states.
No. States have rights.
Yeah, and by this metric Trump still defeats Clinton
If you split it into too many states, you send too many liberal senators to Washington.
as he should
Give the republican side of Cali two states and the libtard side one state.
I would like this. I'm scared that faithless electors will elect Hillary or Mickey Mouse or Jeb
Right I agree. I'm just restating that the outcome would be the same, even though he popular vote favored Clinton
>The electoral college is fine
Splitting New York City off from the rest of the state should go a long way to fixing it.
Hillary talks about it to pander. Trump does the same. Every candidate plans to abuse it and relies on it.
The left will throw massive fits when the right wins due to it, and call for reform, but notice that it's never a landslide sweep for the right, yet it's a massive sweep for the left.
It's all about the narrative, and seeing a few liberal cities rake in 400 electorates for the left causes the majority of America to believe that they are outsiders in their own nation.
yeah, votes in ANY county would count, which would make it 100x easier to steal, and would make illegal votes everywhere equal.
Anyway, fuck you. The President is representative of the states, not the people.
So abolish it if it favors the left so much. It has favored the more conservative candidate in every instance where it's differed from the popular vote, but I'm sure it's going to come up blue any day now.
Don't abolish it because otherwise NYC, Chicago and LA would decide every election
I'm fine with it but there should be some kind of an electoral limit. 55 EV for Commiefornia is way too much-- either split the state or give it to Mexico altogether.
And introduce gerrymandering into our presidential election as well? Sounds lovely.
Electoral college needs to operate on a representational basis per state.
For example California has 55 electoral votes. Clinton won ~62% which should give her 34 electoral votes. Trump won ~33% which gives 18 electoral votes. Johnson ~3%=2, stein 1.7%=1. I did some judicious rounding bit you get the idea, every state would apportion their electoral votes the same way.
It's definitely flawed and needs to be fixed but how would we fix it? People complain about the disproportion of electors per state based on population but not about the fact that each state gets two senators (the house corresponds with electors though).
You simply cannot forget that we are a union of states. States that USED to be like sovereign nation states until the federal government was established after the civil war making the entire country into a single sovereign nation state. But the states still have individual power and their own laws and cultures and shit.
Dems pretend to care so much about diversity (for the votes) and ironically the electoral college helps minorities get better represented versus a pure popular vote which would be majority rule. Maybe that's why they want us to be a minority in our own country? Either way that's not going to happen now and the uncucking has begun. Many illegals will be deported and federal laws will block non-citizens from voting. We will be fine for a while
The EC is comprised of a number of EVs equal to the combined Senate & House delegations afforded to each state + DC.
The Senate is already non-proportional by design when both Idaho & Wyoming get the same number of Senators.
The House is also non-proportional, not buy intention until the Reapportionment Act of 1929 which capped the size of the House at 435 where previously it increased every several years when the Census was taken to guage population growth so as not to dilute representation.
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If you wanted to reform the EC without just abolishing it I would repeal the cap on the size of each state's House representation so that it can be adjusted to a size that are 30,000 voters/district.
I would also give every state 12 Senators regardless of size and have 2 of them come up for re-election in rotation every 2 years (6-year terms) like Representatives'.
Barring that I would just implement a National Popular Vote.
Also friendly reminder that the EC has always been a clusterfuck but probably never as bad as it's gotten recently since the ratio of population variance between the states has grown so unbalanced.
We're probably going to see more splits from now on if nothing is done.
We lose absolute authority over an invaluable military strategic position dumbass
This could also solve it.
>collage
fucking idiot
>burgers in charge of counting the states
The US doesn't have 55 states dumbfucks
>How do you fix the electoral collage?
Every state gets exactly three votes to be allocated by relative support in the state's popular vote.
Chicago
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Elvis and Jimmy Hoffa voted 3000 times
LaLa City
More Mexicans here than Mexico
This strategy offers the chance of a viable 3rd party to gain recognition and stop this hateful propagation of "us vs them"
Make them all proportional instead of winner takes all like Maine and Nebraska
Yes! This exactly
Fucking this. I got told I was selfish for voting for Trump by my little brother and a few friends but none of them give a shit about the poor people in the big 10 states