Where do we go from here Bernbros?

Is progressive politics dead in this country ? How are you Bernbros coping right now ?

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>Is progressive politics dead in this country ?

sure seems like it.

Yeah, we're fucked.
I'm going to try and fuck around with r/Political_revolution, their slack channel, contact the local DNC, and see how Lefty Pol is doing on infinity place but we're fucked.

The media is going to continue fucking things up post election and instigating race riots, Soros is being a fuckhead and isn't in jail, and the PizzaParty will destroy the backend machine of the Democratic party and make it toxic for decades.

Also, if Trump ends up doing what we hope he might, he may get axed, but also the 2020 election would be a Republican sweep.

On the one hand, fixes to tons of things...
On the other hand, automation is going to buttrape us all without a basic income.

hope identity politics isn't the driving platform of the next election and that actual liberals and not neo liberals gain control of the party. Hillary was practically a neo-con

I wish he was younger so he could run again in 2020

Progressive politics is not dead but Hillary Clinton, her dumb ass Anti Trump Protestors, and sjws are putting on a great demonstration as to who is not worth listening to.

I couldnt be happier the way things turned out.
the Libertarian Party got a good Turn out, hopefully they hit 5% next time.
Green Party support Tripled, and I'll be supporting them next time to get them to 5%.

I didnt pay much attention to Gary Johnson's message, but I know Jill Stein and Bernie Sanders were the only 2 progressives that included working class white people in their message. which is one of many reasons Trump did well. Clinton called them all racists, and trump correctly identified that Trade deals raped them and the bailout never reached them... after the collapse destroyed their retirement funds and kicked them out of their homes....

O.o before we can move forward we gotta put the Protestors inline towards something productive.

The fact that they have the smugness to name themselves progressives is reason enough for me to enjoy their tears

Tear down the DNC

Crashing the DNC...

with no survivors

...

>Is progressive politics dead

Progressivism never dies. I wish it would. But it never does.

>O.o before we can move forward we gotta put the Protestors inline towards something productive.

Yeah, the rope. Fuck them, fuck their whinging, fuck their Soros paycheck, and fuck their entitlement.

I kind of miss the Bernie people. Bernie was comfy, even though I don't agree with him on anything.

I was a Bernbro, but I'm happy Trump won simply because Hillary did malicious things against Bernie to get the nomination.

Me too. I would love to see Bernie lose

dis

He's a liar, and a battered girlfriend to his abusive husband, Hillary and the DNC.

All those garbage people, "protesting" for Hillary,

"HIT ME ONE MORE TIME!"

I swore an oath against the dnc and watched them dig their own grave.

Progressive politics worldwide is fucked, social justice bull shit is being mixed in with real issues and is fucking ruining everything. Why fuck off SJW cunts

There is a glimmer of hope bros!! Ron Paul is the answer! We have a petion going right now on change. Org to get him into secretary of treasury. This is our chance to say enough! Fuck you corporate assholes!

>dead in this country

more like dead in the world.

I guess you could still try your luck in some African or south American shithole?

You wait for the electoral reform.
If trump keeps what he preached about loving LGBTQIJKLMNOPQRSTUVW people, and he keeps some form of universal healthcare, instead of just abolishing the shitty one we have, reelect him, because reelections are easier, and he's guaranteed to be anti-establishment.
If he isn't, or alternatively in 2024, you go and vote for Jill Stein, or another good democrat candidate like Bernie, except this time for someone who doesn't sell out and lick his archenemy's ass until the last moment.

The electoral system needs reform so you can elect more outsiders.
Trump will do this.
Whether he will have exhausted his usefulness with that remains to be seen.

Don't lose hope.
There are still some actual rational progressives not dominated by identity politics and corporate interests out there.

Ron Paul is the COMPLETE OPPOSITE of a progressive. You can't be a progressive and a strict Constitutionalist.

True.
Saved.

Stein and Sanders are TO THE LEFT of the Social Democrats in Europe. They're more like the anti capitalist democratic socialists.

It's so funny . Strict constitutionalism is so fucking outdated for the modern world and no way compatible with modern society

You don't wish to have someone to finally stand up for you? well, keep your pride but I wish for change. Ron Paul is the first step to equality and bringing these assholes down

HAHAHAHAH
what?
Are you retarded?
No one in american politics is actually left.
You have ridiculously far right, and not so ridiculously far right, slightly to the right, center, and slightly to the left.

libertarians, republicans, democrats, bernie, jill in this order.

>the Social Democrats in Europe

this statement makes no sense. Europe is incredible diverse and Social Democrats vary a lot depending on which part of Europe you are looking at.

For instance: Social Democrats in Denmark are anti immigrating, assimilation not multiculturalism, in favor of the monarchy, supports the state church and the list goes on. They are still ofc very pro workers rights, supports heavy welfare and so on but they do have very conservative ideals.

The people who control the purse strings will never let a progressive/socialist become their candidate, as it is guaranteed money loss for them.

Make your own party or wreck the DNC from within.

Let me reiterate:
It is inconceivable for even a right wing party to want exclusively private healthcare over here, as that shows a ridiculous and callous disregard towards the value of human lives, favoring corporations instead.

t. born again conservative

Kill yourselves

I didn't say that, I mean Paul and Sanders are on two different worlds.

>Bernie
>living past 2018

AHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAAAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAH
AHAHAHHAHAAA
AHAHAHHAHAHAHHAH

Google Virg Bernero

yeah not true. We got large parties in Denmark who have that as their basic policy.

You cant generalize an entire continent that is as different as Europe. We do not speak the same languages, we do not share the same culture and we have vastly different societies.

That's why we can amend it.

do you faggots realize he took all your money and gave it to clinton, the epitome of establishment corrupt big bank politicians

like do you just ignore facts or something, or do you have an actual reason why that's okay, or

That's a meme, and false. For example, our "center right" party had softer stances on immigration under Bush than places like Denmark.

We can live in two different political worlds, but we can still come together and agree, that we have had enough of the elite enslaving us with debt can't we?

Oh wow based Denmark

They are not anti immigrant. That is laughable.

Would a Hillary/Bernie ticket have defeated Trump?

Except progressives don't like federalism, so NO.

>Is progressive politics dead in this country ? How are you Bernbros coping right now ?

Bernie in the USA with progressive governments all over latin america was the only solution to all of our problems
but
The kirchner failed
Evo Morales failed to get approval for eternal re-election (just think about it, he's the only guy that bolivia needs from now on)
Venezuela is about to fall
Dilma was impeached
Bernie has failed

Soon Correa will follow suit and I don't see the bern spark going through this term
Socialism in the Americas is dead

It's over,
I propose we all commit mass suicide, it needs to be explosive and dramatic so it can inspire and ignite the spark in the next generation, the far right has won with its traditional racist, capitalist values
who is with me?

Not Hillary never. Bernie had a good chance though

YOU ALL KNOW WHAT TO DO

Switzerland does, and your framing is pathetic.
Have your tax agents put guns to the head of hard working average people who would rather choose to spend money as they see fit.

They're not stupid people who are irresponsible in spending money.

I need to do some research but these are something things I want them to wake up to and sign petitions for.

>Give the Federal Election Commission (FEC) some teeth.
As far as im aware they have their hands tied by political gridlock within the Commission, preventing them from responding to shady political behavior and there not being strong enough regulations for them to matter in the first place.

>Restore the Protections granted under the Voting Rights Act.
When it was thrown out in 2013 both parties did nothing to bring it back. It let states close down polling locations and start putting voter id laws in place, which only serves to kick people out of the system... and off Voter Rolls like in Brooklyn. That would have needed to be approved when the Voting rights act was in effect.

>Push for Ranked Choice Voting so we are free to vote our interests.
Maine just pushed this through. Ranked Choice voting lets you pick candidates you actually Agree with and prevents any candidate from actually being a "spoiler." If your first pick doesnt win, then it uses your second pick and so on until one of your candidates gets Majority support.

>Push for Getting money out of politics by Amending the Constitution, through a Constitutional Convention of the States.
Go state by state until the Constitution is Amended, since Congress will never do anything about money in politics or campaign finance reform. To prevent Corporate candidates getting ahead simply because they have 2 billion dollars of monopoly money.

>Setup an Independent Commission on Presidential Debate, that allows any person on enough ballots to win the presidency, into the Debate.
Because people are dumb and dont google who is actually running, so to reach a mass audience 3rd parties need to be on the debate stage. the current Commission on Presidential Debates is run by the Republican and Democratic Party and actively prevent 3rd parties from being heard.

That is so black and white. Chile and Uruguay are doing well, one center right and the other center left, but both largely pro market.

Whats there to cope with? Im ecstatic. In march I wanted Bernie to control the democratic party and the dem establishment to be BTFO.

I voted for hillary of course but now that shes dead, obama gone. Theres no one left. Warren and bernie will run the party and in 2020 destroy trump. Trump gave bernie full control of the democrats and now we will win in 4 years. Also no obamacare excuse to not pass universal healthcare.

So long as it's married to identity politics, yes.

If the alt-left were to ever develop (sans SJWs), then they'd still have a legit shot.

Back to painting your nails and making up genders.

>Chile
Chile couldn't make Allende happen. Allende shot himself in the face
As we all should
come on socialists of the americas, let's do it.

Anti market democratic socialism is a failure.

>They are not anti immigrant.

and you base that on what?

They supported all the strict laws we have passed since the migrant crisis. They openly support pushing legislation that quote "borders on a violation of the UN code". They have even claimed it an issue that human rights gets in the way of good governance. There three guiding principles towards immigration:

>Only few
>If you come here you MUST work or get out
>No dumping of danish wages

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not quite. I am on the other end of the spectrum and completely right wing in danish politics. However my point was that you cant take American politics and apply it to another nation. Our left and right are very different from yours.

>Where do we go from here Bernbros?
Free helicopter rides.

This. Hopefully this whole shitshow is the wake-up call liberals need. They now see most Americans don't give a shit about identity politics, and that we have more important matters to attend to.
Best case scenario, this is like the Bush years, and libs are actually united with a common goal rather than tearing themselves apart with petty bullshit.

hes winning in 2020
and winning big

Unfettered free market capitalism is incompatible with the modern world

>doing well

working 12 hours a day 6 days a week isn't doing well scrub
having a massive debt because of sickness isn't doing well faggot
getting your money and hard work stolen by the same dudes who killed entire families and then being poor as fuck when you're old isn't doing well, stupid cunt

so no
fuck you

Bernie is dead to me he's a fake never again. I'm with Trump now.

Worst case, Green Party.

A job fair...

Too little, too late, "Fortress Europe" is a failure. This is why the EU is splintering and Putin is laughing.

>do you faggots realize he took all your money and gave it to clinton
He didn't actually

He put it into his Our Revolution movement, which is why it's still functioning even though nothing else in the DNC is

>hope identity politics isn't the driving platform of the next election

Keep dreaming. Nigs and spics are only going to get louder and more demanding.

Chile WTF man?!

Dunno man, I'm having my wife fuck my in the ass with the biggest strap-on she could find, but it isn't helping one bit!

Seems like our progressive way is truly lost on this country.

Who cares what you think? You are probably a criminal who uses socialism as a cover.

I am PRO-MARKET, NOT "pro-business."
I come from families of betrayed central american "socialists."

fuck you too.

NO WAR BUT CLASS WAR MY DUDE

Berniebro here who gladly voted Trump. All I wanted was revenge against HRC and the DNC for stabbing our boy in the back. Going forward though, I am totally down for Bern in 2020 even though he'll be 80yo.

No one is saying that. That's simply a strawman, the "fear word" is "unfettered." When you have property rights, a legal system, a legislature, a Constitution, it's not "unfettered."

The left is still salty about Pinochet

What? Did he say publicly that he wants to sue Hillary and have her arrested?

>We got large parties in Denmark who have that as their basic policy.
What.
How.
No one in Germany, Hungary, France, and as far as i know Austria, or Poland, or Slovakia wants that.

He didn't give the money away. He just used it up himself.
Still not OK tho.

Wow denmark is *really* right apparently.
Also republicans are not "center" right in any way shape or form.

Also comparing individual policies doesn't do any party justice, you have to see the whole picture.

Not all democrats are against the death penalty.
Being pro death penalty in europe is unthinkable.

Banning abortions under all circumstances is unthinkable.

Having ridiculously loose gun-laws like the US is unthinkable.

Hatespeech and libel being allowed in the name of "freedom of speech" is unthinkable.

The list goes on.

>They're not stupid people who are irresponsible in spending money.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHH
ahAHHAhAAhAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHH
This is gold.
Holy shit, over half your voters voted in Hillary "what's confidential mean" Clinton
Over half of your voters voted for continuing the oligarchy that is the US electoral system as it is, instead of voting for the anti establishment candidate.
Because the media made them feel feels.

People are utter fucking morons, sometimes even the most intelligent ones.

Also switzerland has universal healthcare, and almost got universal basic income.

Trump is going to be like 76 so big fucking deal

Also if Bernie gets a good VP pick

They're worse than the national socialists, because they always jizz about their "underdog" status and them become full on murderous fascists when in power.

>salty

we're thirsting for blood
we're thirsting to kill all of them

>Too little, too late

kek you do know we have been the "racists of the north" sine the 90s right? Its not a new phenomenon in danish politics. Neither on the left or the right.

>"Fortress Europe" is a failure.
if you say so. However I personally do not give a shit about "Europe" as do many of my tribesmen. I care about Denmark and fortress Denmark have proven to be very effective. We now have a net minus in immigrants coming here.

>This is why the EU is splintering and Putin is laughing.

again the left wing is the most anti EU in Denmark. I have voted on literal commies and send them to parliament on the promise that they would fuck up the EU. And wow did they deliver!

The right is the pro EU and anti Putin in Denmark. Not the left.

Away.

>progressive politics

You mean spending tax payer money on the lazy and weak?

I don't think self defense counts as murderous

Pinochet was a monster

Dem establishment has zero credibility right now, their progressive base are going to force through a transexual muslim polykin nu-obama as the nominee and trumps inevitable landslide 400-55 is going to be hilarious.

>I voted for hillary of course
....
[mildly triggered]

I have a suggestion

They'll grow out of it.

Focus on state and local elections. Those affect your everyday life way more than presidential election ever will.

The fires of the revolution grow larger by the day. After a year the workers will demand freedom from the bourgeoisie swine who have infected every branch of our government. Our voices will grow to loud to be muzzled by the tyranny of the electoral college. They will try to suppress us, but it will only stoke the fires hotter and hotter. A wave of rebellion and revolution will sweep through the people and the military as we take up arms to truly free ourselves from the wages we slave for.

What I mean is that compulsory benefits really got started under Bismarck, because many old Conservatives thought that workers were to irresponsible to save for healthcare etc.

AGAIN, it's not FREE, and the socialistic framing of "muh people over profits" doesn't hold water.

Why not socialize food? It's more important than health care.

Back to fucking Reddit that's where

>No one in Germany, Hungary, France, and as far as i know Austria, or Poland, or Slovakia wants that.

so it somehow comes as a surprise that eastern European and central European nations are different from northern European nations? Who would have thought?

In Denmark we got a party call "Liberal Alliance" who fights to lower taxes to the extreme and privatize every single government project. They got about 20% of all the votes last election and is the second most popular party among the danish youth.

Europe is a diverse place. Just accept that and stop being so sure you hold all the facts.

Compared to who? Stalin? Mao?

This is an offensive stereotype. I demand an apology and that you address me with my chosen pronoun "cunt".

He's the epitome of the regressive left
>dude free college lmao
>dude $15 minimum wage lmao
>bread lines are ok
>white people have never experienced poverty

It's no wonder the SJWs and gibs were crying over him during the primaries. He's just another pawn of ((((them)))) along with Shillary.

Glad there's some other people around here who want actual progressive politics, rather than identity politics and neocon shit.

Honestly Trump gave us our best chance to overturn the corporatist Dems that've taken over the party, and there's finally a lot of momentum for the party to actually move left economically.

Unfortunately, a lot of establishment Dems (and right wingers) are rationalizing the trouncing of the Democrats as an indicator of them being "too far left," which is so retarded it kills me.

You should all fuck off to Canada.

Governments funding art and feminist degrees needs to stop.

Scholarships for STEM fields is all that should be allowed and focus on giving these to poor schooling districts the most. The rest can be doomed to debt or working in the industries we need to be worked in, like making me a burger for my lunch break.

Trump winning was more progressive than any other win in history for USA.

Drop the socialism. Accept distributism. Accept Christ as your Lord and savior. Go to a conservative traditional church and find a nice virgin. Marry her. Have lots of kids and raise them in the family business with your distributist economy.

Just wait unti Trump try's to instill Trumponomics and more poor and middle class people get fucked by skyrocketing inflation and healthcare costs