Apparently this is what democracy looks like in America

Apparently this is what democracy looks like in America

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We aren't a democracy you fucking leaf.

The United States is not a direct democracy.

What is a constitutional republic

SAGE

They can't grasp this fact, or just choose to ignore it. We are a nation of STATES.
We are a REPUBLIC.
State Charters agree to EC as it gives the individual states equality.

We are not a mob ruled democracy.

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kill yourself

Go back to fucking a moose you goddamn leaf

States are a relic of British colonialism. There is no reason to have state boundaries or 50 state governments. It is literally a bunch useless bureaucracy.

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Enjoy your beaners with maple syrup, moosenigger

how did the vote for Trudeau go?
really I actually, truely have no idea how you elect the prime minister in canada, please explain your democratic system to me

you underlined the irrelevant numbers

If we had the electoral college, why the fuck would any small state want to be part of the union? The large states will dominate the vote every time, and the smaller states will constantly be ignored.

Yes we are

democracy by proxy (republic) is still democracy

shitlibs are just buttblasted about the EC blocking kommiefornia from running everything

I remember when brexit happened, SJW were crying how majority should not be allowed to rule. I guess when it comes to left, democratic system doesnt matter, its more important they get what they want.

Kill yourself. Many absentee ballots are not counted because the state has been won by a margin greater than the number of absentee ballots. Absentee ballots go heavily R. Trump likely won that, too.

No, a constitutional republic faggot

The majority of people tend to be wrong in most cases, thats why we have checks and balances

America's state system is wonderful. States are loosely connected via the federation, and localities are governed mostly by themselves. Don't like the policies or government of where you were born? Move to another state. If you get rid of borders, you will be forced to move to another country which is a whole new headache in itself.

Exactly, it's either their way or the highway.

FUCKING

It's a republic you stupid cunt

The simplest way to explain: The rules are the way they are (each state is worth a certain amount of points) so we don't have two states deciding what's good for the rest of the country.

We are a Republic. Not a democracy.
Fuck off leaf. Day of the rake is coming.

Incorrect. As a historical matter, they are sovereigns and allow people choice in governance. The law fit for NYC may not be fit for a small suburb.

>Afuckingleaf

You better get ready, we're coming for you leafs next. The Day of The Rake is coming and we will annex you.

That's why there are different local laws between NYC and small suburbs in New York State. There is no need for state governments however. A bunch of local city councils makes sense. 50 departments of commerce, agriculture, etc do not.

A republic is not a democracy by definition, it is just a system where you are ruled by leaders that aren't a monarch.

Just because we have parts of our process where we elect certain person via voting doesn't mean we are democratic nation as a whole. The presidency is not won by democratic (aka the popular vote) means but by a multifaceted process where each state elect representatives that go and THEY vote for the president as their state wants them to. Its checks and balances against actual democratic institutions.

I don't give a god damn about your supposed "republic". She got more votes. She deserves the job.

/thread

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this is about fair representation for states, so the high pop urban centers don't run rough shot over farmers

i think we should do away with the whole electoral college vote though and give each state one or two votes in the college

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MAPLE

>Day of the rake

Actually, she doesn't, because that's not how our presidential elections work. Sorry about your mental retardation.

1. we are a democratic republic
2. all the votes werent counted in that pic michigan was just counted he won the pop vote
3. your president is litteraly an autistic faggot

If this election was based on popular vote, Canada, New York and maybe Massachusetts would be the only states electing the president. Votes from states like Idaho, Montana and Louisiana would be worth even less than with the electoral college.

Hence the UNITED STATES of America.

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I need more information about the superior Canadian democracy

>I don't give a god damn about your supposed "republic". She got more votes. She deserves the job.
She didn't play for most votes. She played for POTUS position. In large parts of California there is nearly no incentive for Republicans to vote.

what source says they counted MI? I can't find it

One of the most politically illiterate arguments coming from the regressive camp that gets spread in their echo chambers.
Trump supporters in deep blue states stayed at home because they knew they had no chance. The very existence of the electoral college changes voting behavior. If the US were a one state democracy, the votes would have looked different.

So: Hillary did NOT win the popular vote because a legitimate popular election did not take place and the people recognized that beforehand.

>Caring what a leaf says about our country

Kek

Canada uses the first pas the post electoral college system too, these leafs are either proxies or shills desu

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_electoral_system

Or...

Do like Maine... divide state into districts, each elector votes the way of his district

Both area and population would be used to determine a fair system of dispersion.

Just a thought I have had, dunno if it would be practical or not.

Then votes would be like:(just random figures here)
California 35 Clinton 20 Trump
Florida: 20 Trump 9 Clinton
Wisconsin 6 Trump 4 Clinton

>Canada, New York and maybe Massachusetts


>canada

Trump unilaterally annexing Canada as the 51st state, yes fuck yes.

>Massachusetts
MAbro here, our population is like 15th in the country and we voted 60-40 for Hillary, I don't think the split is THAT bad.

>democracy

No, dumb communist leaf. That is what a constitutional republic looks like.

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>wordpress

fake and gay

>A republic is not a democracy by definition

But that's wrong.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic
>A republic (from Latin: res publica) is a sovereign state or country[1] which is organized with a form of government in which power resides in elected individuals representing the citizen body[2][3] and government leaders exercise power according to the rule of law.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy
>Democracy (Greek: δημοkρατία, Dēmokratia literally "rule of the commoners"), in modern usage, is a system of government in which the citizens exercise power directly or elect representatives from among themselves to form a governing body, such as a parliament.[1]


Saying "we're not a democracy, we're a republic!" is like saying "That's not a Ford, it's a Taurus!".

One is a subclass of the other. Democracy is a non-specific term that applies to a system so long as people have the right to vote and are the root of the power. How many layers of bureaucracy exist between the citizen and the lawmakers is not particularly relevant to the definition.

It would be correct to say "we are not a DIRECT democracy, we are a republic", as that's like saying "that's not a Bronco, it's a Taurus".

Awww OP what's the matter, butthurt much?


Go cry in a corner by yourself, pathetic sack of donkey manure

If it were the other way around you wouldn't be here complaining about a measely 300k more votes, no, you would be rubbing it in everyone's faces, so how about you go swallow daddy's dick some more, and while you're at it, choke and die a painful death you ridiculously overweight virgin neckbeard shitlord

We gotta change the voting system way before that happens because that just opens things up for gerrymandering.

>47.3

This kills the Clinton

No, thats what a federal republic looks like.

We're a republic :)

Back in the day, americans used to vote for electors. The reason we did that is because americans in general were dumb asses and they voted for people who were smart enough to decide who our president would be. The electoral college is an antiquated system left over from a primitive society and the only reason anybody would be happy about it is if their guy won because of it.

How is this so? Is this because Clinton is only liked in the places with stupidly huge populations?

I'd like a recount of the popular vote

They have no better arguments, it's LITERALLY the only thing they have left now.

Boo fucking hoo, she had 300k votes more, this is so unfair wah wah wah

If it were the other way around, OP faggot retard would be mocking everyone who voted Trump, but of course, hypocrisy is their middle name, so now crying and throwing a tamper tantrum is all they're capable of


Show your real face OP, take off that mask and show how much of a pathetic bitch you really are. Cry, cry cry cry, your tears are delicious. Hang yourself

Yep, it's actually the very foundation of our government.

You will notice we have representation based on both population and each state.

A bicameral legislature, divided into the house and the senate is proof of this.

Number of House "representatives" being based on population, and Senate "senators" being fair for each state.

This means us rural folk aren't completely and totally fucked out of our vote by the cities. It's a wonderful system, you Europoors should try it sometime.

Yes it is. The national "popular vote" is irrelevant. We don't even technically need to keep track of it. What Trump did was win the popular vote in more states than Hillary, thus garnering him more electoral votes, which is what actually matters. That's how our system works and has always worked.

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LEAF

>I don't give a shit about your election system, you must adapt to mine!
>a fucking leaf

gr8 compromise m8

>democracy
It's time for a permanent Leaf ban.
When their troll attempts have fallen to obvious b8 with no effort anymore, then what is the point?

>"Muh District of Columbia ordinances are equally applicable in rural Montana"

Fucking Idiot!

SOMEONE COMPLAINS ABOUT POPULAR VOTE?

>The popular vote doesn't matter because we use an electoral college system. The candidates use tactics built to win the electoral vote, not the popular vote. Trump wasn't trying to win the popular vote, he wanted the electoral vote.
>If we used a popular vote system, then the results would be entirely different. There is literally no evidence suggesting that Trump would lose the popular vote if we had a popular vote system. Democrats in republican states and republicans and democrat states have poor turnout in the electoral college because they don't think their votes matter.
>Complaining about Trump winning without the popular vote is like telling the two candidates to play chess, Trump checkmates his opponent, then you complain about the rules of tic-tac-toe.

bonus:
>If you cut out the illegal immigrants that voted, people that voted multiple times, and bring back the thousands of ballots that were destroyed in Broward county, Trump probably won the popular vote.

>I'd like a recount of the popular vote
The popular vote isn't even fully counted in some states in the first place, once it's clear one of them wins some ballots remain uncounted if their number is too low to swing the election the other way.

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This, and it took like 8 fucking weeks for news to cross the country.

Build the wall in the North 10 feet higher!

>ordinances

These aren't done by state governments. See

It means she has a lot more illegals, felons and dead people voting for her.

So you support BREXIT and believe that young people shouldn't be the only ones that get a vote in the country's future? Or are you going to pussy out like a little bitch and ignore the majority?

you conveniently left out this part in the Republic article:

>In modern times, the definition of a republic is commonly referred to a government which excludes a monarch. Currently, 147 of the world's 206 sovereign states use the word "republic" as part of their official names; not all of these are republics in the sense of having elected governments, nor do all nations with elected governments use the word "republic" in their names.

Being elected via popular vote is not required to be a republic.

(630877 / 121331359)
*100
= 0.52%

So, just over half of a percent difference in total.

Now consider the millions of niggers and spics and middle class white guilt cunts and suddenly registered felons and people paid by Soros to vote Hillary.

This is not a populist vote, chaps, nor is it a failure of the system to represent the will of the people.

That happened in the UK, when 4.3million voters (12% of the electorate) turned out for Ukip at the General, and we received 1 MP who wasn't even on our side!

>98289983
>what is a democratic republic
I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
>and to the Republic
>and to the Republic
>and to the Republic
>and to the Republic

Canada is the same way with FPTP you dumb fag

A) America is not a democracy and never was intended to be a democracy.
B) Read Article 2 Section 1 of the US Constitution, and you'll find that there is no requirement to hold a popular vote. The electors are to be chosen by the states in whatever fashion the state legislatures individually deem best for their own states. By custom, this has been through a popular vote in each state, but that is neither necessary nor guaranteed: it is only a custom that the state legislatures grant to the citizens.

yeah nobody could have guessed that this would happen when you let illegals vote without ID

and they didn't even vote in states that mattered. wow i wonder why the countries they're fleeing are shitholes, could it be that they're retarded subhumans?

Well, she should've had those illegals, felons, and dead people vote in areas that mattered.

>this same post every day

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>The House of Representatives shall be composed of Members chosen every second Year by the People of the several States

GET REKT CITY SHITTER
youtube.com/watch?v=HD2N0WRMsKc

looks glorious tbhqh

>The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each State, elected by the people thereof, for six years;

WHAT IS A REPUBLIC FOR 500 ALEX

Direct democracy doesn't work on a national scale.

Hillary knew she was trying to win over the states on a winner-takes-all basis, and she fucked up.

This whole electoral college thing isn't new.

That's Article 1 on the legislative branch of government. Article 2 defines the executive branch. The House of Representatives is the only body or official directly elected under the original constitution (Senators are now directly elected thanks to the 17th amendment, but originally their choice was up to the state legislatures). There is no requirement for a popular vote for President in the Constitution.

>muh it's about the farmland
>muh nation of states
>muh this is how we've always done it

And now we're gonna do things a little differently - hold on to your butts trumpftards, there about to get hurt

the president can largely only govern through laws written by the legislative. The legislative is democratically elected

Lol and the Democrats know this! They have every chance to court the votes they need in the states that matter. They start with a huge lead. They lost and lost hard

>here's my source
>some random from twitter

Really mate?

We aren't a democracy either you stupid fucking leaf.

In 1896, 1926, 1957, and 1979, the party who won the election lost the popular vote.

In 2015, the Liberals got 39% of the vote and 54% of the seats.

It's almost like we're not actually a democracy and you're actually just fucking retarded and ignorant of your own political system.

Apparently you still do not understand what a republic is.

>But we are a representative democracy, which is a form of democracy.

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That doesn't change the fact that there is no requirement for a popular vote for the President.