Tell me about Russia Sup Forums I know little about them and my friend keeps telling me that Russia is a terrible place that has continued to do KGB tactics to silence people and that Putin controls the media massively. I know little about Russia though.
Do any of you have a bit of a crash course about the current events of Russia?
It's a worse place to live than first world countries, but better place to live than third world countries.
That's pretty much it.
Luke Young
\тpeд.
Luke Bell
We hit their plane and cucksuckers do nothing, we are stronger than them
Jose Taylor
Siberia is empty as fuck and most of them live in the european part of Russia
Also they have a history of getting assraped by their leaders
Connor Morales
Russia is better at taking down planes, so shut up.
Matthew Moore
Friend's been there for a while (5 years plus), KGB stuff is nonsense but their propaganda flood is as bad as the US's, but as Russian is a smaller language it becomes a bit more painful to try to believe that it's the truth. Ultimately language is an easy means to bypass the propaganda in either camp.
Grayson Moore
At least you're free to speak your mind publicly.
Jackson Fisher
Can you live on the swamp?
Landon Rivera
The KGB does not exist anymore. Russia is a terrible place, but thats part of its charm. Russia being such a shithole is why people like you and me can become russiaboos. We can safely observe their suffering from a distance. Russians are cynical about everything and their entire lives are suffering, this is what makes them cute.
Its not possible for life to get any worse for the average russian, so all the media propaganda about how bad putin is or whatever is largely lies.
Dominic Jenkins
We are not cuck as yourself like europe, we ll take down any plane violate our lands unlike your cuck country You should learn some manners from real man cuck
Isaac Gray
This.
Kevin Hughes
It's literally an evil empire and should not be allowed to exist. It needs to be broken up and the western half given to Finland and the Eastern half given to Mongolia. Japan can have the East coast. Moscow will be turned into a lake.
Christian Evans
Until they sanctioned you and Erdogan said he was sorry.
Grayson Perry
>anime picture >delusional scenario
Post discarded.
Oliver Perry
Any reasons why? I see the danger of russia but rarely hear or see any facts
Alexander Martin
Surprisingly, not that worse. Moved from Moscow to Paris, now missing my comfy life in Mother Russia. Back in the day when job market was better, there were many international enterprises hiring and exchange rate was good, leaving Moscow would have been outright stupid, but in this new reality I was struggling with finding something decent.
Ho дa, /тpeд.
Ayden Gutierrez
>as Russian is a smaller language it becomes a bit more painful to try to believe that it's the truth. What.
Brandon Young
NATO was created to fend off Soviet Union, then in the 00s their paranoia made the most US-friendly country in the world into an evil empire again. I remember the times when russians considered US as a some kind of a friendly rival that we aspired to catch up to by trade and doing business. (((They))) were more interested in having a bogeyman instead.
Dylan Brown
What if I told you that what the western MSM did to Trump after he became a candidate they were doing to Russia and Putin for years? What if I told you that Ukraine shot down MH17 on purpose in order to form a consensus in EU and impose sanctions on Russian banks (which was done within a week after the incident) and that the Dutch are covering it all up because of geopolitics (e.g., at the request from the US)? And since Trump has won, the truth about MH17 might come out very soon.
John Gutierrez
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Luke Young
it all makes sense now
Michael Cook
why can't people accept the idea that Russia isn't the biggest evil place on the planet
James Stewart
...
Ethan Nelson
Bunch of latent commies a.k.a nation who always needs masters dick in slaves butt. Matter of fact, about 60% wants to remake soviet union.
Jack Perez
"pls help wi sorry russi plis gib turist moneys"
Mason Taylor
Regarding the media, did the practically all control of the US MSM help Clinton? Many people can see through propaganda. Russia has many alternative news that practically show the same bs they show in the west (Dozhd, Vedomosti, RBK, Lenta, Novaya Gazeta, etc.), not to mention an incredible number of news sources in the west that are targeted at Russian audience (Russian BBC, Russian Euronews, DW, Hartiya97, Meduza, Delfi, Radio Liberty/Svoboda, Ukrainian sources). None of them are blocked in Russia. The problem for the west is that the truth is not their side on a number of important issues (MH17, Ukraine, Syria)...
Just like in other countries (e.g., UK, Germany), there is state run media. I can only imagine the chaos that the rich outsiders could create in Russia by controlling all of the Russian media... So having a state-run media is much more important for Russia when you consider the resources of the enemies that she is facing.
Most of the problems in Russia have to do with much lower salaries in comparison to western EU or US (especially now thanks to falling oil prices and sanctions), rather than freedom of speech or any other issues (except maybe climate)...
James Garcia
You should really stop spewing this crap, people here aren't that naive anymore.
1)Nobody cared about Putin until 2014, he brought this on himself.
Its also unbelievable how gullible and dumb the Russian people are, defending a chekist who has put his cronies in every position and embezzles billions from the state, making Russia the most unequal country in the world. Pic related
2)The investigation is completed. They even know the names of Russian Armed Forces personnel who fired the missile, but its kept quiet because the cucks in charge of NATO are pussies.
Russian propaganda on the otherhand has changed its story multiple times. So what was it then? Ukrainian BUK? Ukrainian Su-25? Rossiya 1 even recently put out a story the plane exploded because of a bomb.
Russia previously has shot down planes and unsuccessfully attempted to cover it up, using fancy press conferences and fake evidence, same as MH17. The resplendence with what happened to Korean Airlines is remarkable.
You could at least man up, admit it and pay to the victims families, like the US did with Iranian Airlines.
Brayden Gomez
It's easier to analyze the Russian geopolitical situation if you turn the map upside down.
Henry Clark
what is this flag? Anyone knows?
Luis Cook
Fuck you lativa worse than niggers
Charles Torres
Russia is a great place and they will be a strong ally of the US. President Trump will easily be able to bend Putin to his will.
Jackson Brown
>literally the world's biggest potato sluts, more than Irish and every other slav combined
Gavin Lee
It's a corrupt authoritan state that's hard pressed to beat Nigeria economically. Citizens are bluepilled cucks, Pootin is giving away billions to muslim Checnya and permitting immigration of mexican-tier tajiks and uzbeks.
Everyone who questions this is called a neonazi or a liberal. Or both.
Colton Wright
Not anymore. "Subversive" posts on social networks are a criminal offence, so Pepe posting can send you to prison.
Easton Barnes
> Eastern half given to Mongolia Hoho, I smell a Fingolian plot. How's your day Timür?
Kayden Myers
Good. A true citizen shouldn't criticise their state anyway, especially not with a ruler as based as Putin.
Ian Myers
Armenian genocide. Not quite european and not quite asian (no identity). Contributions to the world... nothing. As Hillary would say, "Can't we just drone them."
Jace Ortiz
t. literal nigger
Zachary Garcia
1). Even before I started to follow politics (2013), there was Litvinenko case, Georgia 2008, daily news of Pussy Riot on CNN, anti LGBT propaganda law targeted at minors (there was a show on CNN with Obama where they asked him: "Suddenly, it's illegal to be gay in Russia, what do you think Mr. President?" — which is a complete bullshit). It all began way before 2014, because Russia had its own interests (e.g., regarding Syria, etc.). The problem with Russia and Putin for the west is its independence, self-interest, and the west's inability to destroy Russia with military force.
You realize that most of the oligarchs became rich because of privatization in the 90s? Yeltsin has sold state enterprises for pennies.
2). Let's talk about MH17.
> The investigation is completed.
First, what part of "the Dutch are covering it up because of geopolitics" did you not understand? Second, the technical investigation is completed, not the criminal one. The latter was extended up until 2018.
> Russian propaganda on the otherhand has changed its story multiple times.
What story? Russia never officially stated that it was shot down by either Buk or the plane at any point. They showed what data they have and that's it. Everything else what you saw is "special interpretation" of the western (and your local) media.
> So what was it then? Ukrainian BUK? Ukrainian Su-25?
Like I said, Russia officially has not said what the weapon was used or who was responsible. It can't, because they are not part of the investigation and do not have access (at least official) to the shrapnel from the missile to conduct a metallurgical analysis.
There was a leak in 2015. According to the anonymous leak, it was Su-25KM equipped with Python 4 or 5 missiles. It also stated that it was impossible to know this for sure without having access to the shrapnel (which Russia officially does not) and the technical documentation of all foreign missiles.
Ian Sanchez
It's not a good place to be poor in. It's an authoritarian state and corrupt. However, I've been there a few times and enjoyed it. The girls are fun and they start young. Don't marry them though.
John Perry
IKR, and all these faggots here continue defending that (((ex)))-commie fuck, who's doing a better job at perpetrating White Genocide than fucking Merkel
P.S. pic related, it's Russian capital in 2015 during Ramadan
Benjamin Bailey
I've visited the US and Germany a few times and compared to their women our girls seem fucking perfect >inb4 all russki girls are sloots and gold diggers
Luke Robinson
Hey, at least the vast majority of us hate them
Logan Powell
Let me guess, your friend has never been to Russia in his enitre life and all of his knowledge comes from a HuffingtonPost article
> Russia previously has shot down planes and unsuccessfully attempted to cover it up, using fancy press conferences and fake evidence, same as MH17. The resplendence with what happened to Korean Airlines is remarkable.
You realize these accidents have little in common? There was no denial from the USSR that they shot it down. The Korean plane flew through Russian territory, was intercepted and did not answer to any communication. The USSR thought it was a spy plane and the pilot was ordered to shoot it down from the command center as the military plane was running out of fuel. It was not the pilot's initiative.
Probably a closer incident would be with the one that happened around 15 years ago, where a Russian jet was shot down by accident with S-200. MH17, however, was shot down on purpose because of this big geopolitical game (someone needed all EU countries to impose sanctions on Russian banks).
David Price
i get it when you start posting Cuckalny my kosher friend
Angel Scott
Ah yes, one video that will completely alter my views on all of our men
Ryan Edwards
> the country with the most natural resources of all countries > shit economy > average russian poor as fuck > should fragment for the sake of human kind
Sebastian Morris
Thats why we get mail order brides, Ruski.
Benjamin Young
not as /badguys/ as MSM says, not as /goodguys/ as they think of themselves. like in any big countries, sometimes they do dickish things, some planned, some by acidents. on personal level Russians are bros, with the exeption of kids playing CSGO of course,
Josiah Martinez
Moscow and St Petersburg are ok. All other cities are literally dying out: heroine, poverty, alcoholism, aids. Noone even cares
KGB pressure is much much lighter then in times of USSR.
Overall main problem: is that whole country works for Moscow.
Logan Martinez
> flight MH17 you fucking russians did this out of stupidity and now you come with some fucked up conspiration theory .
Austin Myers
siberian oil niggers as Tumen are ok imo
Elijah Lee
just prove it in court then
Liam Lewis
at least we r not ruled by Jews like Poroshenko-Valzman and Groisman, goyim
Dylan Rivera
I can't understand why anybody would want to have anything to do with them U basically agree to marry/date a girl that's only interested in you because of your country, there's literally no love involved
Jose Turner
Yes, yes they are.
Adam Phillips
lol çomar much?
Brayden Walker
...
Isaiah Fisher
it will be proven in court too. it's obvious for everyone. Occam's Razor, Ivan.
I loved those games when I was a kid. Scuba divers and the giant octopus was the best.
Caleb Baker
Ben senin anneni siktim
Tyler Allen
This idiot here believes that: - the Russian military has sent a lonely Buk launcher on the day of the crash (it has other support vehicles; according to JIT), - it was moved to city of Donetsk without being seen by anyone - Russian military forgot to erase the serial numbers (according to Bellingcat) - Russian military shot down MH17 on accident - then instead of moving it back to Russia stealthy during the same night and covering the missiles, they made a ridiculous route and showed the Buk without a missile in a major city of Luhansk (Luhansk video) in the next morning.
Here are facts: - there were no photos or videos of a Russian Buk in Ukraine on the internet before MH17. - dozens of planes were shot down before and after MH17 in Ukraine, no proof that either of them with Buk. MANPADs were enough against any Ukrainian bomber or heli. - all known photos and videos appeared after MH17. Most are anonymous and low quality. None of them is evidence that the Buk was actually there, because as shown here ( energia.su/mh17/en/article/1/ ) they can easily be forged.
Chase Kelly
This
Christian Mitchell
>it's obvious for everyone
Yay social media posts! Photos made by noone knows who and when! Not EVEN one alive witness!
Kevin Murphy
Nonsense chart
Elijah Rogers
are you working for rt.com , Ivan ? fuck off with your lies and bullshit that you call "facts" .
the Russian military shot the the civilian plane out of incompetence. Of course they did other mistakes after that while trying to cover up . Most likely too much vodka, Ivan.
Aaron Carter
you're friend are right and that is the most important thing
Christopher Morales
nice arguments you got there, you really proved him wrong
Angel Watson
fuckin lol'd
agree
Ryan Price
Moscow is not Russia.
Dominic Perry
>it's obvious for everyone >we lied about this so many times, do you really need a proof at this point? >come on, it's current year, you KGB thug keep on going mate
Adam Gray
Essentially we are fucked both by Putin and his vatnik shills and by the west with it's liberast shills. Whoever wins in this cold war we are going to be fucked anyway. Trump may only slow it down or make it go faster, who knows.
Jonathan Bailey
this Minsk is Russia
Elijah Adams
>Moscow is Russia Oh, fuck off.
Zachary Edwards
I've read a lot of shit about this program and it even has become a meme on the internets, but people don't seem to understand that the anchor talks and explains things in a manner of Bill O'reilly of Fox News - a mascot, frontman and flagman of the channel.
Anyway the butthurt is mainly caused by the people he supports - eurosceptics, far-righters, trumpeters of all sorts... It's all like "LOL YOU SUPPORT WRONG PEOPLE WHY DON'T YOU SUPPORT WE WERE TOLD TO SUPPORT". He does everything on purpose and he's not a retard.
Elijah Lopez
It could have been, had Lukashenko become Yeltsin's successor. Alas, I shall live in Bulbostan for the rest of my bulba life.
Cameron Rogers
Could be worse, but still kinda shitty. Also I really want to strangle every westerner who calls putin "based" but refuses to actually move here and feel the full extent of this "based"ness on his own worthless skin. Also, ethnic minorities are priviliged in Russia. Many of them are muslims. If you hurt one, you get convicted for "inciting international and interreligious hatred". If you post something offensive against them on social network, you also might get convicted. If a minority cuts or kills you, he either gets charged with hooliganism or if not, gets bails out by his clan. That's the reality of putin's Russia.
Austin Howard
I have friends who were jailed because of 282 article. Fuck wessies for licking Putin`s boots.
Daniel Gonzalez
>And since Trump has won, the truth about MH17 might come out very soon. Indeed. And """people""" like you aren't going to like it.
Parker Hall
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA LOL YOU'RE AWESOME
Srsly, would I have to be here on Sup Forums if I could speak my mind publicly home?
Brayden Smith
>I have friends who were jailed because of 282 article. Me too. And all the while Putin pretends to support Hungarian and French right-wingers (still calling them "fsacists" for internal media) - the hypocrisy of this regime is off the charts.
Connor Bennett
Occam's Razor , shithead. Russian army has a long history of fuck-ups. and this idiot here even bragged about the downing on VKontacte (your kikebook) : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_Strelkov_(officer)
Nobody is asking why the fuck MH17 flew over a fucking WAR ZONE.
Normally any area of conflict has a flight prohibition zone that is relayed to all airlines. There are many no-go commercial flight zones on the planet like Syria. Any plane in a war zone is a obvious and legitimate target; it could be a bomber, drone, AWAC or gunship.
There is something screwy about the situation. Was the plane deliberately sacrificed as an anti-Russia propaganda opportunity? Or is it just an inexplicable accident?
Ryder Adams
tovarisch major LYORND INGLISH
Ryder Walker
Damn, the KGB propaganda machine hijacked this thread
Dylan Stewart
I left that shithole called Vorkuta while being pregnant in muh mother
Nathan Thompson
Still can't get why not a single white terrorist killed those churkas when they are gathered?
Jayden Perez
You can speak your butthurt on /po/rasha with other faggots.
Luke Bell
What have they done? I have a neo-nazi friend who was shitposting in vkontakte groups defending nationalistic ideas for years and he still seem to be free.
John Hill
Probably were shilling on Sup Forums.
Connor Reed
A country being a bigger kike puppet than the US and that says a lot. First living out century long Communist kikery and eventually became a kike Oligarch haven thanks to the kike-IMF infused "shock therapy".
Also home of billion Putin trolls who think their country is fighting "muh west".