Muh holocaust

>The holocaust happened but the Jews deserved it
or
>The holocaust didn't happen but the Jews deserve it

Which one is it?

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A few thousand jews died, but it should have been more.

Typhus happened and the Jews blamed it on the Nazis

a bit of both

Thr holocaust happened but that shouldn't warrant special snowflake land rights and eternal victim status

The holocaust is a conspiracy theory.

Keep laughing whitey next they are coming for you.

>Sup Forums is one person

There was a plan enacted to end the Jewish threat. It was not as big or serious as the Jews claim. They lied about the extent and severity of the plan. The Jews deserve worse than what they or Hitler could even imagine

It's denial and self-hate. They know the Nazis intentionally tried to exterminate jews. They just don't want to feel like the bad guys because they want the same thing.

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I'll go with the first

>hurr durrr if you're not a nazi you're a communist!
Both were forms of socialist totalitarianism and are both flawed.

>its a "stormfag thinks everyone that isnt part of their gay LARP club of meme history is a communist" post

youre infantile "cowboys and indians" worldview is hilarious

hitler was getting ready to send them to Israel and he put a few of them in camps. When allied forces started being dicks, Germany had no way to feed the prisoners properly, same as the rest of the citizens.

>the holocaust didn't happen bit Jews and abhorrent posters deserve it

>Which one is it?

Whichever causes more liberal, kike, and leftists butthurt and triggering.

You think I fucking care whether it happened or not?

Fuck you I don't care about things that happened five minutes ago you dumb excrement.

>and he put a few of them in camps


~11 million isnt a few user. And this meme that is was somehow the allies fault is also retarded and has no basis in reality.

The holocaust happened but the Jews deserved it.

It's a hoax.
It took a little more than 12 years
That's about 4380 days, 105,120 hours, and about 6 million minutes to kill 6 million Jews and to kill a bunch of extra retards and gays. The Nazis would have had to kill a handful of a Jew or a retard or a homosexual every minute to make those death figures accurate all while hidden in some camps across Europe and somehow keeping enough of them to do labor. And my math is isn't 100% accurate either, where if I did try a bit more, it would look even more impossible.

Israel wasn't established until after ww2 you idiot.

Jews aren't real.
They were made up by the mainstream media.

The point of holocaust denial (other than the fact that it didn't happen of course) is that kikes use it to gain special privileges.

The holocaust didn't happen but I want it to happen again

>stormfronters

It probably happened but it's inflated because of war propaganda that never went away.

>everyone holds both of these views at once because they are two popular opinions on this site

Canadian Intellectuals lady and gents.

>its the bullshit math equation excuse

The point of holocaust denial is to try and clean up the image of a dead ideology in the hopes it comes back as well. Everyone knows it happened, even the deniers themselves. Its just that they dont care and want to spread the idea that it didnt to turn hatred back onto jews

Well, no. That's not the point, and you're wrong.

Here is what the official records show.
Hitler's first preference was to drive the Jews out, then to deport them, and he was open to killing them if necessary. When deportation proved impossible, it's likely many were killed intentionally. A great number also died of disease and starvation, but it's unknown how much of that was neglect.
Until serious historical investigation happens, we can't know for sure. It likely isn't going to happen until the taboo around questioning the holocaust disappears. History is rarely discovered in the moment.

Don't know. Don't care. Just shut up about it already kikes and stormniggers.

Something happened but not like how it is said to have happened.

It obviously is since holocaust denial and "Hitler dindu nuffin" type of beliefs go hand in hand. One usually doesnt believe in one without believing in the other.

War happened. The losing faction didn't have the resources to keep its prisoners healthy.

That's it.

>Until serious historical investigation happens,

The holocaust is one of the most studied subjects in recent history though. Deniers keep saying "w-we need to study more!" because their idea that it didnt happen or was greatly exaggerated isnt backed up by any real historian

>totalitarian Nzais
>privatized national companies
>free internal market
ok

>Fuck you I don't care about things that happened five minutes ago you dumb excrement.
Quit making my home country look bad on Sup Forums, you stupid croat

The idea that it only happened because they ran out of food is nonsense. People were starving long before they felt they full force of war in the warsaw ghettos, and the Einsatzgrouppen missions clearly show the government had a policy of killing them

it was greatly exaggerated. not even in 6 gorrilion sense, but ethnicity wise as well. yes, Nazis were commiting genocide. multiple in fact, not only on Jews. Polish people, Gypsies, Germans who opposed the party, even disabled people were murdered in concentration camps as well. yet you never hear about them. they make it seem like all who Nazis murdered were muh chosen people, when in fact they weren't even majority.

How many historians on either side can say they've really investigated the holocaust without any preconceived notions?

It happened but Israel is playing the victim card too much.

How about
>The Holocaust happened and you'll live to regret it

Because thats the only realistic statement you're gonna get Goy, We will avenge our forefathers we already are...

The holocaust happened but not as the government enforced narrative says it happened. 6 million didn't die, and they were not gassed or mass cremated.

The Jews didn't deserve the government enforced narrative story, nor the mass death by typhus and starvation that happened, but Jews are and were responsible for many nation destroying phenomena, including greedy and tribalistic economic strategies, and the monopolization of public opinion.

Ultimately the internment of Jews (which I believe was to avoid a second "November Revolution", and had a final goal of deportation) and subsequent mass deaths led to the best possible outcome for Germans, which I believe was Hitler's gambit all along. Following the war, Jews mostly avoided Germany for 50 years after the war, allowing them to build the strongest economy (for its size) on earth, without the detrimental affects of common Jewish banking and wealth creation strategies.

It didn't start until 1941, so that's only 4 years, and the total kill count was 11 million

>the holocaust didn't happen but the jews deserve it
I don't get it OP? Who says the holocaust happened? Only blue pilled retard normalfags who need to lurk more.

Not genocide

The groups of people in interment camps were victims of war, we were able to provide food and medical care for the japanese in our camps but the Nazi's didnt have the supplies to treat disease and famine

Basically, What Assad is doing now locking up cities and preventing aid to enter, they are victims of war

The unnecessary hatred toward all whites is going to be your undoing. You guys will have Jewed yourself, drank your own propaganda. Its funny because youre all up your own asses all the time.

>privatized national companies
That's an oxymoron, you moron.

The only companies that existed in Nazi Germany were the ones the state allowed to exist, and the states made the contracts for the companies. That's not a free market, internal or otherwise.

holocaust = the systematic genocide of kikes, typically with gas chambers and ovens in death camps

None of this happened, the holocaust didn't happen. Notice how all of the "death camps" were on the east side. in other words, death camps are communist propaganda.

>6 million didn't die, and they were not gassed or mass cremated.

Just saying it didnt happen doesnt make it so user. And the fact that Auschqitz had a bunch of crematoriums indicates that yes, people were cremated there.

The very fact that the camp had a crematorium shows that they knew a massive amount of people would have died, making the point even more that the government had plans to kill these people in droves

> but Jews are and were responsible for many nation destroying phenomena, including greedy and tribalistic economic strategies, and the monopolization of public opinion.

This is just trying to switch the role of victim and perpetrator though. Giving vague nothing points like this instead of actual specifics doesnt help either. And a jewish banker ripping someone off doesnt justify putting every jew in a concentration camp to die

Also, you should realize that the head of the Reichsbank during the Weimer Republic was a guy called Hjalmar Schacht who was also the head of it in Hitlers Germany and was an early member of the nazi party to up until Goering took over his position.

The confirmation bias is pretty clearly stronger with deniers based simply on the fact that they have a vested interest in cleaning up the image of nazism AND because most of their points are bullshit

I agree, but that's still an emotionally heated sentiment.

Second one.

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You do realize that film is based off of the Massacre of Khatyn, right? That was a real event.

and no, its not the Katyn Massacre. Khatyn was a village in Belorussia that was slaughtered by the SS under the orders of Dirlewanger

There indeed was an extermination of sorts, but it started in 1941 and ended in 1944. Since "6 millions" couldn't have been purged during that time, the number is a lie.

Don't forget the dick milker death machines.

The Holocaust happened because G-d decided to punish the Jews for marrying, and breeding with, the gentiles.

stop bragging about a heritage no one cares about.

Most people agree the holocaust started in 1942.

And just saying "its impossible for that many to die!" doesnt make it true

It happened, but it didn't finish the job. America might be able to

>"hey user, why do you deny the Holocaust? It is pretty unreasonable to believe this"
>Well the math is less reasonable. You would need to be killing several Jews a minute to get the 6 million figure accurate.
>"Wtf user?!?! You're using math and logic for your reasoning? That shouldn't be a reason or proof for some reason. Just believe the Jews user."

That makes even less possible. This guy gets it.

The number of Jewish victims of the 3rd Reich policy is obviously overstated 7-10 times

The holocaust never happened

The jews deserved to be shut down, but not like this.

There is zero evidence for extermination. Ask anyone for the name of one Jew who died in a gas chamber and they won't be able to answer you.

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Holodomor is also an exaggeration - people were dying of starvation everywhere in the southern agricultural regions at that time, not only in Ukraine. It still doesn't excuse the bolsheshits though.

The shoah never happened but the jews deserve it. That is because they are trying as hard as they can EVERY DAY to make people hate them so much until it happens.

It happened but the jews who lived through it didn't deserve it.

>american (((education)))
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Why would they send them away if they wanted to kill them all? They even send their assets with them thus being far less economical then killing them.

Why do you guys think these bullshit math equations are a good argument?

Yeah, its exaggerated by the same people who say the holocaust never happened.

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I didn't say it never happened. I say its extent and numbers are exaggerated beyond any reason.

That doesnt prove his point wrong user. the state of Israel didnt exist until after WW2, during that time it was British controlled Palestine

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>they invaded Poland to defend the germans that were getting killed in there.

they invaded Poland because Poland first wouldnt join the anti-comintern pact (which would have made them give Germany a bunch of their land and be completely defendant on Germany for resources)

Then because they wouldnt allow Germany parts of Poland to connect Germany to Danzig and invaded them under the pretext of the Gleiwitz incident, which was a false flag attack by the SS on German radio towers and then framed the Polish for it. The massacre of Germanys you speak of was "Bloody Sunday" and greatly exaggerated by the nazi government for propaganda purposes and most importantly, happened 3 days AFTER the germans had invaded Poland

>Also Hitler let the british go in a battle because he thought by showing mercy they would stop waging the jews war

The Battle you are referring to is Dunkirk, and this is completely retarded theory stormfags come up with. The Germans stopped their attack only because Rundstedt tanks got fucked up by the French and they needed time to regroup and reinforce themselves. This allowed the British and French to move back to the beaches of Dunkirk and prepare for a massive evacuation. And they werent "let go" the French fought a bloody and fierce battle against the Germans to secure the British retreat, and the only reason the Luftwaffe failed at shooting their boats was because there was a heavy overcast that day.


>muh white men

This is not at all what WW2 is about.

Thanks for illustrating just how stupid the average stormfag is and making a complete ass out of not only yourself, but everyone else in your cult. Now go back to jerking off to "le epic" nazi uniforms and stop pretending you know anything about history

Yes, lo-lo caust happened. It was always real in my mind

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The holocaust didn't happen but the jews deserve one (present tense)