The Simpsons should have aged the characters up every few years

The Simpsons should have aged the characters up every few years.

>new story opportunities
>plots make more sense for Bart and Lisa's ages

Prove me wrong

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they should've just ended it

>Maggie turns into a second Lisa
What did they mean by this?

Maggie could have been what modern Lisa is (whit a few tweaks here and there).

Classic Lisa its not even as close to being what modern Lisa is.

How old is this copypaste again?

Actually, Maggie grows into a punk phase before becoming a rock star in one of the gag intros. You don't have to worry about her becoming a faux-feminist neoliberal like Lisa.

Why do you think they've been doing more and more "SIMPSON'S IN THE FUTURE" episodes, user? They're fucking tired of the status quo.

Not only that, but fucking weird stuff like Bart, a 10-year-old child, going to visit an ex-girlfriend who has a job.

It means that they would also need to change the show's aesthetic. Aging the character is okay, but take them away from the 80S

Or the time Bart thought he got a girl pregnant.

Ir the time he competed with Skinner for a grown woman because chemicals in his milk put him into puberty.

There's no way for them to have known they would go on for so long. By the time it was clear they were never getting canceled, everyone had been the same age for so long it would have been such a change in direction that it wasn't worth it.

Dividing the show into eras can work, Season 9 will be the intro to Era 2, 3 Years Ahead of Era 1, Season 18 brings us to Era 3 which begets 17 year old Bart voiced by Billy West and 15 year old Lisa voiced by Tara Strong. Season 23 has Era 4 which allows for 14-year-old Maggie to click with Lady Gaga.

>Have an arc where Bart tries to stop himself from becoming like his father

Can you name one cartoon that actually ages their characters in real time?

Adventure Time?

Any anime

>any anime
They also have sliding timescales until they choose to do a timeskip

I think As Told By Ginger did that, but don't quote me on that.

Yes? They look exactly the same.

just watched the 'lisa in the future at college' episode... how in the fuck is this show still running? It's not even new storiees, they just rehash old shit again cause it's been so long ago that half of the viewers fogot there was an episode like that already.... It has no redeeming value anymore, let it finally come to rest.

they did, Ginger starts middle school in the first season and is in high school in the last season, with her brother entering middle school

Sort of. The first few years were in real time, but by the time Finn turned 16, time slowed down (since the show went on longer than anyone expected it to).

Punk girls are usually really far left, though.

Young Justice and Star Vs, but neither of them did it in real time.

>Bart has an existential crisis because at 10 years old he never had a long lasting relationship
>they make Mary look like this even though she’s 10
>now she works as a writer for SNL and lives all alone in NYC
>her and Bart weren’t even romantic in her debut episode

the writers never wanted bart doing dumb stuff as a teen, cause then it becomes really irresponsible. A child doing it is one thing, a young adult is another.

It wasn't a gag intro, it was part of the episode. There was a couch gag showing them getting older, but that was years before this episode.

Exactly. Punk Maggie is smart enough to recognize and avoid liberalism.

based commie poster

Venture bros

>Lisa being an irresponsible whore
>gets older and settles down with Milhouse

Does The Replacements count? The kids were a year older in the second season.

King of the Hill. Okay, maybe it wasn't in "real time", but it showed events happening and people ageing (Joseph being the most prominent example) over the course of the series.

Why does Bart have to always have a shit future?

It is a conundrum. I choose to headcanon the good future from the end of the recent Bartman miniseries as canon. Tops even the Chief Justice future for him.

because women are awesome and men suck, shitlord

fpbp

This

Characters like Skinner, Mr. Burns, Abe, Edna Krabappel, Krusty, all of classmates? They get written out of the show or the writing gets increasingly contrived to keep them around and people die and get replaced with less memorable or funny characters.

Not to mention Homer hitting retirement age

I'd love to see the Simpsons do a season where everyone is aged up
Not even a permanent change just one season
They've had 24 of the same thing let's just shake things up a little

>24

user...

2001

why can't the writers just give Maggie a voice like Marge's or her families?
I really will miss the Marge family voice.

Dude, Julie's been voicing the Bouvier women for 30 years. She's lucky she still has a throat.

I like the future where he became a supreme judge. New Simpsons forget that Bart is a trouble maker not a dumb kid. You need to be pretty smart to pull half to the pranks he pulled.

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It didn’t count for much though. Season 2 Bobby was mad his parents wouldn’t let him stay at home without a babysitter. Season 8 he practically begged his parents to give him a babysitter and then freaked out, crawled into his parents’ bed and called them home from their date because of a scary movie.

He turned 13 in season 5.

For the thousandth time, the Simpsons would have still sucked eventually even if they did age the characters. The show in its best years had talented writers who worked hard on packing each scene with precisely designed jokes. The key writers left over time and the scripts started to get lazy and that's why the show started to suck. I doubt they would have stayed and kept up the work if they were allowed to put Bart and Lisa in high school.

Poor Milhouse, he’s not the greatest but he really deserves better than a naggy holier-than-thou used up whore.

only example I can think of is that the members of Gorillaz age in real time

that'd actually be a good way to segue him into becoming a Supreme Court Justice

This and when Bart shows so much as an small form of talent or skill that could lead to a bright career he has to sacrifice it because Lisa or some other thing.

At least he's got chemistry now.

Jazzy and the Pussycats was 12 years ago user get over it.

>Flanders now has two dead wives
This show needs to die.

>The Simpsons should have aged the characters up every few years.
I wouldn't be opposed to them doing a serialized/connected story for a season like South Park did. It's different enough that it could actually be interesting.

I think the Turtles from TMNT 2k3 started off being 15 and ended the series as 19 year olds.

They kinda did age up Bart in season 2 but fucked it up

>First episode of season 2 Bart passes the 3rd grade test and he can go to 4th grade
>Could have had Bart go into 4th grade in the rest of season 2
>Bart never moved up in grades and has stayed in 3rd grade for almost 30 years

Even South Park aged up the kids even though that was almost 20 years ago

well he's got a crappy mid game with his end being on the Supreme Court is still in play.

>The Simpsons should have aged the characters up every few years.
NO

Did Lisa become a lesbian?

She had an experimental phase. Stole Bart's Wife as well.

At the very least Bart should be in his early teens tbqh.

>Homer had wavy brown hair
>Marge did too
>both Marge's parents and sisters had blue or purple hair
>Homer's mom has the same hair as him, Abe had reddish-brown hair
>the only one out of all of them that had spiky hair was Abe
>all the Simpsons kids are spiky blondes

Stupid

...Bart is in the 4th grade and always has been, user. Except in that one episode where Lisa got moved up a grade and he got moved down.

Any promise of a bright future is overshadowed by Bart being a colossal fuckup incapable of maturity of discipline. To be a supreme court justice would mean that Bart stopped fucking around and hit the books just as hard as Lisa and stay out of trouble. Two needs who do their homework. Not a funny show now is it?

I agree, the show can't get any worse so they might as well experiment. Would stop the writers from using the "all the good ideas have already been done" excuse.

Remember when Bart became interested in the police and pretty much single handedly brought order to the whole school?

Hell, at least show Bart working a steady job in demolitions.

This is the first Simpson thread I've seen in a long time that isn't overrun by Sneed and Steamed Hams. Nice!

maggie dates a black kid as a story line

She's a wealthy rock star, do you really think she'd be a legit socialist or any sort of conservative?

Because he can't be bothered to make a good one for himself.

Diverge the Simpsons into two variant shows:

Variant 1) Eternal 1989. Cast never ages. Keep the humour about the fundamental interactions, as well as things that don't change much with time.

Variant 2) Time passes. Episodes can take place at any point in history and today, with cast aged appropriately. Use the Simpsons family birthdays as a guiding point for occurs when:

Homer and Marge: 1955
Bart: 1979
Lisa: 1981
Maggie: 1988

So for example, in an episode set in 1975, Homer and Marge would both be 20 and have no kids. In an episode set in 2018, Homer and Marge are 63, Bart is 39, Lisa is 37 and Maggie 30. Grandpa's probably dead. Introduce children and grandchildren as need's fit. (this last part would need the most skill to get right)

>Maggie is 2nd Lisa
Eerie

Need a webm of this

Steven Universe

If she lets the fame get to her head and radically change her music to be as appealing to the majority as possible, then yes, she won't be a legit socialist and will be a social democrat at best.

Either this should have happened of they should have just ended it. Now we're in this weird situation in 2018 where Abe is still a WWII veteran.

Friendly reminder that this is the only canon future

Mixed with Homer being in a grunge band...

It's a very small thing, but I miss how in seasons 1 and 2 Springfield was mainly portrayed as a dump, with exceptions in the wealthy areas. It's too clean and sterile now

>Because he can't be bothered to make a good one for himself.
>Bart has tons of hidden talents and opportunities
>have to give them all up because he doesnt want Lisa to feel inferior
Yeah no fuck off

>nu-simpsons

It wan't just Seasons 1 and 2, it was all during the Golden Age (hallowed be it forever). They constantly made jokes about how Springfield is a shithole (e.g., that was the reason why they had the film festival with the Critic in Season 6).

Like said, they've already drastically altered the timeline. They'll probably make Abe a Vietnam vet someday and Skinner a 2000s Iraq vet.

No, it's not. They made the future where Lisa marries Milhouse and Bart marries (and divorces) Jenda canon in Season 23.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holidays_of_Future_Passed

This, Bart is obviously creative and motivated when it comes to his pranks and any time he's genuinely interested in something he typically excels in it. Bart got interested in the police force once and brought the school into more order than it's ever been in before (until he gave it all up because Lisa was starting shit).
All they have to do is show the logical continuation of that. they pointed out for example in that episode with the Iranian family that demolitions requires a lot of math and calculations to safely bring down a building, and it's easy to see Bart getting into demolitions just so he can break stuff.

Bart legitimately has ADD or some other similar disorder. If he could get the help he needs, which his family probably can't afford, he'd be fine.

One big problem in talking about Bart's potential is that (unsurprisingly) the show has directly contradicted itself:

In "Lisa the Simpson", we learn that the Simpson men are genetically doomed to be stupid losers, but in "HOMR" we are told that Homer's stupidity is due to a crayon lodged in his brain.

Which is it? Bart's future hangs on that answer.

Yeah, it'd work at least if they acknowledged it more. Like Marge always calls Bart her 'special little guy' but it's pretty clear she only says that because he's her son and she can't think of real traits. It'd be nice if she were still a bit delusional but actually saw Bart's strong points like "Well he failed a test sure but can you believe he managed to egg the teacher's house from a whole block away?" sort of thing.

I mean at the same time Uncle Herb was a highly successful business man until he got distracted with being around family and threw his company out the window. And with the England episode they go the other way and show Abe has a daughter that's as stupid as Homer. Yeah they just don't care about that.

Homer's genetics made him dumb enough to get that crayon in his brain in the first place.

Yeah, but that would just be a crayon in his brain, it's not what made him dumb. It's explicitly established in that episode that all Simpson men have a gene that makes them idiot losers, and we see the entire extended family to prove it. They even directly say Bart's doomed to be an idiot at the end.

Like really the Simpsons Gene isn't a thing, it's just there because they're way more likely to write stupid men than they are women because that's just the stereotype. Even when you have dumber women like Wiggum's wife, she's not as dumb as her husband. It's just lazy writing.

All the futures are real. Simpsons are cursed with stupidity to a certain point in their life. Homer and Herb had enough of their mothers genes that they were okay as kids (or would have been in Homer's case).

>Homer dies and is repeatedly replaced by clones
>Marge considers leaving Homer for his drinking problem. But Ned helps Homer get over it
>Marge separates from Homer for losing all their money
>Bart and Lisa graduate. Jenda breaks up with Bart for giving Lisa his Yale scholarship
>Lisa goes to Harvard, making Bart's gesture useless
>Bart opens his bike shop and is successful for a while
>Homer and Marge reconcile
>Lisa goes to Yale and starts dating Hugh
>Lisa agrees to marry Hugh, and Bart has two short lasting marriages and gets involved in building demolition. He plans on going to law school
>Bart drops out of school
>Bart marries Jenda
>Lisa marries Milhouse
>Homer runs out of clone bodies
>Maggie becomes a rockstar
>Bart has two kids, divorces from Jenda, Lisa works for a zombie charity, Bart gets over Jenda, Maggie has Maggie Jr
>Homer gets one last body
>Lisa becomes president. Thanks to Bart's help with the national debt, she helps him go to law school, Maggie is seen as an astronaut for a music video
>Bart becomes a Supreme Court Justice

The only chance to age them was in the last few years with Fox not giving a shit anyway & letting creators go wild & make R rated blockbusters

Disney will keep them the same forever for marketing & merchandise purposes, so NEVER EVER

Will someone please humanely euthanize the Simpsons now? I can't stand to see them suffering anymore...

No, the dead wives must flow.

Actually she doesn't, but...

Why are the future episodes so fucking bad? This is almost as terrible as Simpspin's fanfics except he's not actually being paid to write them.

>>>/gfg/

They'd be better if they didn't do all those forced, cringy Futurama gags.