Where did the idea of, "If you draw porn, you need to hide it or else you won't get hired in the industry" come from? Most of the artists openly admit to drawing pin-ups, lewds, and erotic art and have admitted it for decades.
Even Disney doesn't give a shit as demonstrated by hiring Chris Sanders.
Has anyone actually been blacklisted for drawing NSFW stuff?
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>Has anyone actually been blacklisted for drawing NSFW stuff?
Probably a few people who drew really fucked up stuff but I have never heard of any tamer artists having problems.
If Im not mistaken American Dragon got canned over porn, mightve been the nature of the content though and that it involved characters from the show itself. Also several creators on steven universe openly draw porn, including underage content, people kicked up about it but nothing came of it.
Everyone that can draw reasonably well has drawn nudity and explicit material more than once.
No idea.
>Has anyone actually been blacklisted for drawing NSFW stuff
not exactly blacklist but rabid autists will try to use their porn past to bring down stuff they don't like but ignore those who they do like.
Well back when Walt was alive a couple of guys who were up to no good animated a porno of mickey and mini mouse and showed it at Walt's birthday party and were fired on the spot
Walt fired them because micky and mini arent the type of thing he gets off to.
>pin-ups, lewds, and erotic art
None of those are porn.
You know, people always post this story to showcase hints of Walt being a pedo, but I always interpreted it as Walt accusing Ollie as being a pedo himself because he finds it suspicious Ollie would put so much work into giving a child love interest bedroom eyes and a sexy walk.
I figure he was just saying "good work this attractive character will bring in viewers"
Link to scene in question?
That story never existed before 1994 where it first appeared in a completely discredited book.
She's "cute" in the same way most characters Ollie Johnston animated seem to look: just "cute" in general.
That's how I saw it too, because that girl does not act like a girl, she acts like a seductive woman.
When I saw that as an adult I coudldn't help but notice how sexual that girl was acting and it seems Walt made the same observation, to point out how blatant it was.
Yeah I just assumed you could call a character "sexy" back then without it meaning anything too serious. Not really sure why I assumed that though, also the story could just be bullshit
>"If you draw porn, you need to hide it or else you won't get hired in the industry"
I think you may be misconstruing the commonly given advise "don't put porn in your portfolio because it would send the wrong impression" which seems pretty obvious to me..
If its a girl "its cool, own that sexuality!"
If its a dude "guys a creep. blacklist him."
Gender war is here.
This. Sanders doesn't draw porn.
That makes a lot more sense yeah.
This is like the one situation where that double standard doesn't exist.
>If Im not mistaken American Dragon got canned over porn
Where did you get that? The show had a proper ending, the only reason they switched art styles from season 1 was because of budget issues.
>Where did the idea of, "If you draw porn, you need to hide it or else you won't get hired in the industry" come from?
From people who got blasted for drawing grotesque content (scatology, gore, IRL, etc.) whining and lying about how innocent they are to young artists, making them scared to think even vanilla isn't safe. Anyone with any considerable art experience will tell you that drawing naked bodies is a normal part of studying anatomy. Whether vanilla porn comes of it or not is not a big deal.
TBF majority of the time the reason why employers fire over it is because the artist didn't cover their tracks and it ended up becoming a PR issue, not because they're ashamed of the porn. The autist is generally a shittier person than the artist, and in some cases indulges in fan content more disgusting than what they gave the artist hell for.
Its all based off early Furry fandom legends of a furfag who used his,ah, private portfolio when applying for a job at Disney.
He didn't get it.
Was it really budget issues? From what I heard, the season 2 style was actually the original style, but Disney forced the team to change the style to make it more "Disney-esque".
Are you talkin' about Schwartz? I thought the legend was that he -chose- not to because they didn't use Amigas. Though I guess your version sounds more realistic...
>Where did the idea of, "If you draw porn, you need to hide it or else you won't get hired in the industry" come from?
People who don't actually work in a creative medium. So most likely here.
probably because the amount of snowflakes in the social media are easily offended and keep harrassing and calling people out for the problematic content
I heard they changed the style cause the main designer for season 1 died
Given the context of the story, that girl is likely fairly close to standard breeding age. Same with the boy. They're more like teenagers.
>Also several creators on steven universe openly draw porn
No they don't. Stop this meme.
Rebecca deleted all of her slash art for a reason.
It just seems logical, but that doesn't make it true.
As if with most things, it depends on your position in the pecking order. If you're some grunt on the line drawing futa Elsas, you're probably gonna get canned. A guy like Chris Sanders is too big of a fish to make anything of his more erotic work.
Retards have to hide their porn from their parents, so they think that applies to grown ups with their own lives.
>Even Disney doesn't give a shit as demonstrated by hiring Chris Sanders.
Disney is the biggest bitch about porn. they just learnend to ignore it as soon artist uses alias to keep porn business from his real life work and portofolio.
also americans are fucking insane shitheads what comes about sex. they make gay propaganda comics with lesbans doing hardcore porno sex in a comic for 6 years old calling it "innocent kiss and hugging" when refusing boy and girl holding hands because "its child porn".
That sounds correct. Reads like pedos are trying to push a different narrative like "l-look, i-it's ok, even Disney liked it! Amirite?"
Maybe people were just more innocent back then and pedophilia wasn't in their minds 24/7 so they could say something like that with no hidden meaning.
I emailed Schwartz once about that. He said he did the job and that was it. No controversy or anything, it just didn't go anywhere. He also had some animatics for a show pitched to WB called geoforce. Really from my correspondence his career is wholely controversy free, it's disappointing.
Personally I think furries pressure artists into believing that they can't go legit so they stay in their bubble, making smut. Lots of groups do this if you want to look like a racist.
It might just be me, but I have no idea what comic you're talking about. But with that description you've piqued my interest. Please give the source and elaborate more.
Except it does.
erotic art and pin ups doesn't qualify as "porn", at least not to me. Most artists i can think of have some pin up coffee table book released.
Now there are a few artist who are pretty popular now and some of their first paying work was for Penthouse Comix. But that's seriously pushing the limit and the ones that broke through are pretty great in terms of talent.
I think for companies it's a risk reward decision, will the content of this artist previous work cause more trouble than their current ability is worth. It's simply a popularity.
Sensible adults know to hide the real nasty shit they like so it doesn't ruin their reputation with the people they know.
>for a reason.
Her show attracted an sjw fanbase and then when the quality started to decline they were the only ones left willinh to watch it.
Probably yeah.
>At least I assume they do, not being an actual adult myself.
>I think furries pressure artists into believing that they can't go legit so they stay in their bubble, making smut
An interesting theory.
Have you considered that maybe the girl is supposed to be sexy, because that's her whole point for existing? She lures Mowgli out of the jungle?
Pretty obvious really, if you're not retarded.
And your source never existed at all
It's probably a hold over from the live action film and television industries. Usually when someone goes into porn first they're not going to get hired for anything else. There are exceptions of course but there are exceptions for everything.
t. Pedophile
I wasn't aware 8-year olds were so sexually charged they could be lusted away by bedroom eyes.
The idea is don't draw porn of trademarked characters that you're not paid to draw porn of because then people bitch it's canon in a world that wants nothing to do with it.
In a pedophiles eyes they are. Pedos hyper sexualized All children
I've only ever heard the Amiga version of the story. But if what you say is true I have to wonder where and how the story got started and how it got attached to him of all people.
>Personally I think furries pressure artists into believing that they can't go legit so they stay in their bubble, making smut. Lots of groups do this if you want to look like a racist.
That actually seems reasonable. Some assholes do put their kinks over other people's lives.
Professionalism
sugar pls
From puritanical weirdos
In five years it'll be harder to find working artists who haven't publicly drawn porn
What did you think the entire point of that scene was?
I mean I know that autists are incapable of recognizing human emotions in others, but they practically sell it out for you.
Yes, the whole point of Shanti is to lure Mowgli out of the jungle just after Baloo and Bagheera or whoever it was agreed that Mowgli would be a part of the jungle forever. That was the entire joke.
This
>greetings new hire. This is the area you'll be working in and here is the new project we are halfway into.
Great! Can't wait to draw porn of it and let it leak like all my past works!
>uhhh,what was that?
I draw porn of all the characters I work on and "somehow" the drawings get out!
>this project is Boss Baby 2
So scat porn? Gotcha!
So you're saying you want Shadman to work on the next cartoon show you like?
I'd rather have somebody who understood anatomy. The porn is never an issue.
I think you're so wrapped up in thinking your pedophilia is normal you're completely missing that people were pointing out why did the little girl lure him out by being sexy rather than being, you know, another human being who is singing a beautiful song he's never heard before.
Baloo sings a song then the girl sings a song, and he could've been interested in the song rather than her fluttering eyelashes and zoom in to her sexy face.
If it were any person singing, it wouldn't have been a little girl his age making bedroom eyes at him, and there wouldn't have been any joke.
You've got a stick shoved so far up your ass you've given yourself brain damage.
I don't think you know what a "joke" is because her acting sexy was not crucial to the punchline. The punchline was, "You will never leave!" (He Leaves).
I think you're just really adamant in admitting you have a thing for little girls and view this as normal.
Yeah if you are drawing smut of something you are working on that's the point you have gone full retard.
You're right in that there's no hidden meaning.
He blatantly said the little girl was sexy. Back then pedophilia was just as prevalent, if not more prevalent than today - it's just that nobody did anything about it. You could say comments like that and face no repercussions because why would you? This was far before the time where any connotations behind a statement like that would be considered 'problematic', because deeming statements like that in regards to fictional characters to be 'problematic' just wasn't a thing.
you didn't know me when i was 8.
thanks for playing
Because sexuality is a bigger part of the human expirence than music. Sure it's maybe at little odd at his age but I'm willing to overlook that for the sake of the story.
found the retarded one
breaking news: same age voluntary encounters are legit
oh please.
nala and simba were way more obvious. fuck you and your witch hunts, puritan
Also all this and no one is going to tell the fucking boss and founder, "Don't ever say that again, that's a troubling thing to say".
They're just going to avoid him.
>Comparing animals to children
>Missing the entire scene where Simba goes, "Ew gross!" when he's a kid to the idea of marrying Nala
You're really bad at this.
Because that's what girls do, user especially in the context of an Indian village in some ancient time. If you even pay attention to her song she's basically singing about her feminine duties to her village. It's all just a "He's all grown up now!" scene. And when boys grow up, they meet girls get married and stop having fun adventures with their animal friends.
They aren't but it works better for the story if we pretend they are.
>Where did the idea come from?
Americans, big shock.
No I mean she deleted all of her old porn and her dA right before Steven Universe aired
Really? I'd argue music is as big. Not as important biologically but as big a part of people's lives.
But then again, I have sex on the regular so I can see why it'd seem like a huge deal if you don't.
We are talking about the people who chop their baby boy's dicks up because a breakfast cereal producer told them it'd promote sexual purity.
>implying sexy pictures = porn
Are roman statues and other nude artworks porn too?
How old was mogli? I know I liked titties and asses at 11.
>Are roman statues and other nude artworks porn too?
This. It's like those old postcards with kissing kids, it's not meant to be seen as sexy or seductive to adults, it's just an act, a play and it all happens between kids of the same age. We see the story about a guy being lured by a girl, enacted by kids, and it was considered fine back then.
That's just some shitty "artist" looking for attention.
Yeah well it's one thing if you draw pinup and tasteful nudity, and another thing if you draw girls with dicks being raped by tentacle monsters.
Probably from Disney firing Ellison for jokingly suggesting Disney porn.
Kek, based Walt
>and proceeded to act out the parts while imitating the voices of several animated Disney characters
He was probably fired for being a cringelord.
>the season 2 style was actually the original style
It's true. Jake's conceptual art is drawn really close to that style.
Are you a troll or do you not know who Harlan Ellison is?
He's the guy who invited the scooby gang to Miskatonic, prompting the events of the first scooby doo show, right? Beyond that, no idea.
Depends.
If you're drawing lolicon, people might take issue. A lot of other stuff is fine.
The fuck are you talking about
Yep. Also, just keep your stuff in the privacy of your own home, don't talk about it at work and just go on from there.
This, people are just putting too much thought into it. It's a joke.
Dude did that on his first day in... I'd have him out on his ass too.
IIRC Chris Savino got into trouble because of some autistic retard thought he's up to no good (hello there fresh prince) and called the cops because of him drawing lewd (possibly loli?) stuff.
Honestly he didn't deserve any of the bullshit he's been through. There are (or at least were) sicker people that get away easily with this. (e.g Shadman and Gara.)
I should note that Shad only got once in trouble but not on such a scale as Chris, and he continued to do loli porn until he went into meme crap at which point he stopped doing porn. Garabatoz does still make loli porn though, and the authorities don't even give a flying fuck.
but this is outraging the majority of the artist community user.
>The punchline was, "You will never leave!" (He Leaves).
That by itself isn't funny, or at least not as funny. It's the fact that a boy who has never even seen another human before immediately abandons his former way of life upon meeting a pretty girl. It's the same kind of joke as the "Twitterpated" scene in Bambi: falling so completely and suddenly for a girl is funny.
Shad had to change countries twice (and was registered as a sex offender in his homeland due to his art) so I wouldn't say he got away easily.
[citation needed]
It's way far from having your kids taken away, and all of your possesions, which is Savino's case.