Why Clark and Diana can't work together as a couple?
Why Clark and Diana can't work together as a couple?
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Because its fucking boring, they have no chemistry, faggots only pair them because "they're both walking gods", and it does nothing for Wonder Woman's character
Ain't no good country boy like Clark gonna go for a girl he can't eventually settle down with.
Literally no one has ever said that
In New 52 it's because it was rushed for geek news headlines. The majority of the angle was spent with the characters trying to justify it, so even DC had an inkling that it wasn't working.
>Because its fucking boring, they have no chemistry
sounds like Clark/Lois
At least it's better than Wonder Woman and Batman.
They're already too similar in personality as it is, and that makes the whole thing dull. Plus, writer autism demands that Diana become a megalomaniacal turbo bitch the instant they hook up.
They're both better off with their own classical love interests. Because occupying a shared universe does not mean characters should be chained to each other and disallowed from existing on their own terms.
>and it does nothing for Wonder Woman's character
WRONG
Clark and Diana ships always end up changing Diana for the worse. She either becomes a spineless cheerleader or, usually, becomes a giant bitch.
You'd be surprised
Probably should have specified, "Does nothing good for Diana's character"
Because Jon wouldn't exist.
I see Benes hasn't lost his touch, neat
I liked them, but I understand some of the points people made about the coupling.
For me, they're cake and ice cream. They're both sweet and delicious so why not have two sweet things together.
The two core points I've seen people make against are
1. Superman and WW are superhuman characters so their small day to day life stuff should feel grounded. Having them in a relationship with more normal people like Lois or Steve work better cause that's what those characters do, ground the superhumans.
2. Most writers suck at doing WW justice, and nearly all the times WW and Supes are together WW looks a lot more raging or reckless next to Big Blue Boyscout
They absolutely can, it just hasn't been done well yet outside of a few elseworlds.
What wrong with his EYYYYYYES?!!!!
Because they work better with their usual partners.
People only ship them because first superhero/ first heroine sheningans.
Waste of trips. Superman needs a better son than that hydrocephalic crybaby
Becuase writers play the
>gods among mortals
angle instead of the poor farmboy dork x princess/ambassador one.
The farmboy and princess would be so poetic and comfy. Instead, they have Diana go full on "PITIFUL MORTALS QUAKE BEFORE OUR MIGHT!!" whenever they're shipped. It's not the best side of her.
Where's this from?
The central issue of the ship is that in the end, Wonder Woman always winds up drawing the short straw. If it were played up like says, it could potentially be interesting, but instead they always treat Diana as either Clark's trophy girlfriend, or a negative influence on him who constantly needles him in to giving up his 'silly mortal' identity.
The only time this pairing was pulled off really well was in Kingdom Come, and Mark Waid is such a die-hard Lois/Clark fan that he acknowledged that the only way Diana/Clark works is if Lois is dead.
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>They're already too similar in personality as it is, and that makes the whole thing dull
this summarize it up the best. They have no real synergy and have the overall same strengths and weakness in their personality, nothing about either of them is foreign to the other.
>Superman needs a better son than that hydrocephalic crybaby
Why yes, I'm certain that the kid capable of standing against the power of a universe-breaking cosmic horror and is willing to step-up to the task when his home needs him, doesn't count as a good son for Supes. And I'm absolutely certain that you'd make for a "better son", Prime. Or perhaps whatever bastard Diana would give him. Who knows?
Diana gets the short end of the stick because whenever they are paired together it's supposed to be dystopian in nature. Frank Miller made Superman a corporate stooge and Wonder Woman a man hater. The Injustice crew made Superman an evil dictator and Wonder Woman his evil advisor. Kingdom Come worked because they was more sympathetic because they stopped liking each other when they both started to slip into despotism instead of the reverse.
Even the New 52 had them get together when both were out of character relative to Post-Crisis.
No wonder they don't work together. The only times that they ARE together is when they aren't themselves.
Some faggot is having a breakdown and spamming this pasta everywhere.
>Why Clark and Diana can't work together as a couple?
They totally would, but people don't want to read about shit that works. So they have to drama it up so that means making one of them look bad.
Literature has taught people that "chemistry" means friction which is frigging weird. If we used the same standards by which we judged ships in our real relationships we'd all be pretty fucking miserable. "Man, I don't know. Me and this chick get along pretty well, are in to the same things, spend all sorts of time together, get along great and help each other out all the time. I'm not feeling any chemistry."
"Is she ugly?"
"Nah man, we're both practically super-models, but we just never get into fights."
"Oh, well, it just can't happen."
First. Powerset. Their move set overlaps and it became very uninteresting to watch them wok together.
Second. Their dynamics is bland and unapealing. Their personalities are too similar and the only aspect they can go with that they can't with their other Love interests is the god complex which is also stale and unapealing. There is no dynamic or contrast. Making writers usually have to write one or BOTH OOC to add something interesting to this boring dynamic as an duo. Which making using them pointless amd could easily use someone else. Like in injustice Diana could have been easily Maxima and it would made 1000 times more sense.
Lastly, because they have tried over half a dozen times and like most of the points I have already listed, it's dumpster fire.
>t. newfag
Diana and Bruce > Diana and Clark
BORING!!!!!!
Its the plain white bread of couples
because superman was siegel's fantasy in which he's clark who gets lois (a shiksa out of his league, later his wife joanne)
It hasnt been done well in elseworlds either
too vanilla, Wonder Woman might as well be a R63 Superman
Because of nostalgiafags who cant see what's best for both of the characters when its stripping itself in front of them
nailed it
SO TRUE
An adorable light-hearted series about a foreign Princess and a good-hearted country bumpkin trying to find time to develop a relationship while saving the world could be a fun read.
The New 52 comic about them was too obsessed with making it "how many old villains can we have them fight every other week"
they get along to well, so there's no real conflict in the relationship. This leads to writers making one or both widely ooc. Shits too vanilla to exist for the masses.
It can work as long as the writer knows how to write a healthy relationship between two individual characters that are also compelling on their own.
But that's like 3 things happening at once. Sounds like effort.
>batman
>An adorable light-hearted series about a foreign Princess and a good-hearted country bumpkin trying to find time to develop a relationship while saving the world could be a fun read.
It was, god damn it! And I still tear up thinking about it! (Though Kelda wasn't a princess, being an asgardian means she may as well have been)
its never been done well
Because the only reason you ship them is because they're the most famous superhero and superheroine. It's the most basic bitch ship of all time.
the patrician choice
just like wonderwoman and batman, amirite?
Well, yeah
It'll trigger the Batman x Wonder woman fags.
Don't ever reply to me Spoiler.
I love when you faggots act all superior when that is just as bad if not worse.
>being this assmad
learn to ctrl+s dumbass
>Not Bruce and Clark
Explain
Hard to make them interesting together but not impossible.
Also shippers are autistic and certain couples trigger them, just see Batcat's and Wonderbat's effect on them.
This, they just fucking went together to what they thought was their death in metal while Diana got bitchslapped by the Batman who lols.
Also Diana geta used as a tempting slut for Bruce and Clark and no one bothers to build up a relationship between them and her that is not sexual. Meanwhile Bruce and Clark, even if it's platonic, just ooze chemistry and work well together.
Ask yourselves why S/B comics tend to be fun but Trinity comics tend to be dull, Diana is the third wheel.
I meant the tripfag idiot
>"they're both walking gods",
Except unlike Clark, Diana has no weaknesses because #feminism.
How does cheering Kal on make her spineless?
>Except unlike Clark, Diana has no weaknesses
Getting shot is a pretty big weakness.
The main issue is that it doesn't work with Superman's general set up. Diana is completely divorced form the Daily Planet and Superman's supporting cast, so their relationship often would be ignored, or Superman's own supporting cast would be sidelined.
It can work for elseworlds and done in one stories, but it's not a good direction for the main books.
Although Diana has a less consistent supporting cast, making Superman her lover just minimizes even more her interactions with normal humans, which can bring a sense of lack of humanity. Yet again, in an elseworlds, you can bring situations where their secret identities disappear and "heroes" aren't inhabiting a different world from people, like at the end of Kingdom Come, but that's not going to be the main status quo.
Why did they break up in N52? Was it just to return to status quo or was there a convincing reason?
>poor farmboy dork x princess/ambassador
I want this so much.
>no princess will come for you ;_;
Bruce and Clark and Diana > Diana and Bruce > Diana and Clark
When his identity ended up revealed, the government started capturing some people close to Clark in order to get information about Superman, and Diana helped them by using her lasso to make sure they were telling the truth. She asked for permission while doing it, but it was still a pretty low blow done behind Clark's back.
He's rich and talented in every aspect imaginable and fucks every female character in his radius already.
And people want to wank this fucker more by also giving him Wonderwoman.
Literally why
Touche.
>Timmfags
Can you imagine the sex between those two? Superman not having to hold back and just smash that pussy raw would be so satisfying.
Also if they had a kid, how much of an OP mary sue would it be?
Because DC use Diana to make lesbian bait.
Farmboy/princess is just a variation on the farmboy/big city girl trope that's far more appealing accessible for both sexes, not to mention more realistic.
You answered both those questions already Frank. Senility much?
Then quote right the right person dumbass
How age-less are these two anyway? How many years can they go on compared to humans?
Because the only real way I see such a pairing work is in the twilight stretch of their mutual existences, by that I mean them outliving the lovers and friends that they've taken on in their own lives and just eventually gravitating towards one another while their humanity erodes away with time and heartbreak.
The cartoon was just that good man, it sold me on wonder/bats and I just can't imagine anything else. He gave up his pride to sing a sensitive emotional song just to save her life. Plus kid diana crushing on kid Bruce and treating him like a dainty damsel was too cute
It's not really consistent. He generally has slower aging, but it can go from him being middle aged already 50 years into the future like in the DCAU to him living, even if as a very old man, up to the Legion of Super Heroes' time, like in the epilogue to Thy Kingdom Come, then you have Morrison's All Star/DC One Million version where he's functionally immortal.
Diana generally has slower aging, but usually it's closer to DCAU Superman's level. We haven't gotten many future stories after her origin changed to being Zeus' daughter though. This version might be immortal too.