ITT Reasons why the Legend of Korra was a bad show

>series starts at an industrial era setting and somehow jumps to sci-fi technology out of nowhere
>nation of recently confederated tribals somehow produces a Death Star with legs when planes and forklifts were just developed

>Earth Nation
>tribals
What?

More like city states than tribes.

Yeah... if any country in the avatarverse could create a giant robot it is probably them.

Did you see the villages Kuvira was consolidating? Sure, the Earth kingdom has a few grand cities, but there is a lot poverty and underdeveloped areas. While Republic City has skyscrapers, the Earth kingdom is still coated with wooden huts.

Korra is a cunt.
The avatar Wan episodes.
"Killing" off the previous avatars so now the future avatars have to learn from that cunt Korra.
Trivializing metal and lighting bending.
Ignoring the previous rules of blood bending.
The villains in general. Amon could have been great but then we got that M.Nightshaylabla tweest.
Romance bullshit.

True, but Kuvira had tons of engineers and lots and lots of resources at her disposal. If she wanted to make a mech, by god she was going to make a mech.

That still doesn’t excuse the massive technological gap.

We already know that mechs exist from season 1. The earth kingdom just improved them.

korra was a mistake.

If you combine season 3 and 4 you get the plot of an MGS game.

>forklift to platinum-built mech taller than mountains armed with an energy cannon in only a couple years

Do you not think that the ability to move massive gears and bearings with the movement of your arms isn't going to change the nature of technological advancement?

A bigger plot hole is that Toph didn't alert anyone to the construction when she is has ascended-tier senses.

Megatron? Is that you?

Sure doesn’t seem that way when most of the tech the mech derived on was being developed by Republic City.

Also, we’re to believe that they developed the physics to compensate for such a mech? In only 4 years since the original forklift? And don’t forget the mech is entirely made of platinum, and metal bending can only be mastered by a few, so building something made of metal larger than mountains isn’t something feesible in a couple months.

With an army that can just...form steel however they want by sheer force of will.

>Reasons why the Legend of Korra was a bad show
because not muh avatar Aang fags

Literally no one has ever said this

they tried to justify it with earthbending, which made sense
but it was just not appropriate, nor did it fit thematically

>Basically get rid 90% of the Eastern Influence in world design by making most everything either take place in wastelands, Republic City or the Spirit World

>Reduce the Spirit World from a tangible place one can traverse into some lala land that can be distorted by a kid crying. Also reduce spirits into having GOOD and BAD forms, completely missing the point of Eastern views of Yin and Yang

>Rava and Vaatu as a concept in a whole

>Avatar Wan not being a spiritually enlightened individual, just a fucking fight monkey who constantly fucked things up

>Korra is meant to be this strong tough female character but she jobs harder than Aang ever did and almost always has to be bailed out

>The supporting cast are non-character that are basically just worse versions of the previous shows cast

>Instead of taking from actual Asian mythology for spirits, they just Miyazaki'd everything up because that's easier

>Power creep that invalidated Lighting Bending, Metal Bending and Blood Bending as forms of bending only a master could hope to master

>FUCKING PRO BENDING

>Characters lack conflicts between what they want vs what they need, making them all feel shallow

What was wrong with pro bending? Unless you mean it got too much focus but as a side plot it would've been fine.

It's a fucking waste of time. Bending itself in the original series was an extension of each natures culture. Movements designed around reflecting that peoples philosophy and style.

Pro bending strips any of the art of beauty away and turns it into a fucking cheap side show with stupid rules. It was fucking awful idea. Bending was art in the original series, Pro Bending helped transform it into JUST SHOOT WATER/ROCKS/FIRE at people

>only a master could hope to master
did this piss you off too?

>OP has never heard of Deiselpunk before

To be fair the first Avatar already had battle tanks, flying warships, and a giant excavation drill.

The robot being a giant mecha was kind of a silly design choice, but technology was always in flux.

It's MEGATRON!

>that
>diesel
you're more retarded than steampunkfags.

Yeah, because it was basically pointless in the long term

The Buu arc in itself is just full of that stuff

They wanted to show that the times have changed and both the bending and the avatar weren't what they used to be. I'd say that was a good way to show it. Not that it means the show was good but I see no problem with using pro bending to show that bending became less of a martial art and more of a celebrity thing.

Change for the sake of change isn't good. It made the product worse and more bland. It wasted time that should have been used to actually develop characters and it started the trend of Bending having shit choreography in Korra

You can say it executed the idea they wanted okay, but if the idea itself was shit and made the product inferior it's still shit

season 2 ruined the show
the biggest problem is that it has a different setting and a different villain every season so they have to create 4 entirely different stories and come up with new motivations for each character
like in season one tenzin didnt have time to train korra since he was too busy so that kicks off the plot where she runs away to republic city but by season three he is following korra everywhere and his job is being korras coach and how the fuck does that make sense?
all the villains are underdeveloped and not explored enough, azula and zuko where cool as shit

Pro Bending was cool as a concept, a means of character development, and as a plot device.
>Concept
No more war, the nations are together in Republic City, so how to they adapt to the sudden lack of violence and the sudden surplus of diversity? pro bending
>Character Development
it helps her learn airbending and she meets the brothers, and it strengthens her bond with Tenzin.
>Plot
Amon used pro bending as an example of the gluttony and entitlement of benders. He also used to tournament finals to stage his attack.

So for all these reasons, I believe that pro bending was a fun and pivotal part of korra season 1. Without it, it would have been all terrorists and Tenzin wagging his finger.

>the show ended three years ago and you people still won't let it go

all those machines didnt look out of place in atla, hell it was cool how the fire nation became a militarized nation and thats how the conquered everything
i get that was the point of kuvira as in thats what she was doing but going from having a cannon in a train to that thing is goofy as shit, as soon as that thing showed up it took all the seriousness away and i felt like i was watching the power rangers

>No more war, the nations are together in Republic City, so how to they adapt to the sudden lack of violence and the sudden surplus of diversity? pro bending

Question : Why not just have actual bending matches between the nations then? Like what we had with Toph has the blind bandit? That address and function as an outlet

Answer : Because Probending was designed so that the staff didn't have to put as much thought into actual bending competitions and fights anymore. It was dumbing you down and lowering your expectations for what a fight "between" benders is. That was all Season 1.

Consider the fact that the final fight of Season 1 was against a guy who just stopped you from moving with Blood bending and he was defeated by Korra flailing at him.You might not have noticed, but your brain did.

>it helps her learn airbending and she meets the brothers, and it strengthens her bond with Tenzin.
She had one moment of airbending understanding for one episode and then it never helps again until her LOVE OF MAKO awakens her airbending. She met two characters with no substance, who sadly unlike pro bending, didn't get the boot in season two. And the bond with Tenzin? The guy she's constantly abusing and ignoring? What a powerful bond.

>Amon used pro bending as an example of the gluttony and entitlement of benders. He also used to tournament finals to stage his attack.

You know what I would have actually liked to see as an example of gluttony and entitlement of benders? The actual supposed "oppression" that was going on in Republic City, rather than some dumb sport. And there ar plenty of setting to stage an attack

And I disagree. If Pro Bending was gone, that time could have actually been used to
1. Flesh out the cast properly
2. Flesh out the city properly
3. Show Korra actually making progress as an Airbender
4. Show us ACTUAL BENDER OPPRESSION AGAINST NON BENDERS

what petty street gangs dont exist? there are zero benders who attempt to use their bending powers to mug, harm, or otherwise be a public nuisance?
nah
pro bending was added on just to fill out the show more since the creators were expecting a 12 episode mini-series but were suddenly given 2 seasons to work with.

instead of re-writing what they had, they added filler to what plot they already had written. this is why the pacing is all over the place all thru Legend of Kora. they had too many episodes to write and not enough ideas to spread between them

What powered it?

firebenders and magic

Do you not think that maybe this had to do with the fact that martial arts ceased to be actual spiritual concepts and became sports in Asian cultures when technology advanced?

The whole thing mirrors the loss of the spiritual in exchange for the technological that happened in China and Japan.

Kuvira was basically Mao, modernizing the Earth Kingdom through main force.

So more steampunk than deisel.

It's not like it can move on its own, Kuvira moves it with metalbending
Yeah it's cartoon-y but the bulk of her army are mechas and it's the perfect (or rather only) way to move her spirit cannon

TLOK is a fine show
Much better than the garbage cartoons we've had to deal with for the past 8+ years

wathever kuvira was and wathever she was suppossed to be the show did a pisspoor job atportraying it, thats true for every single character in the show

>Create giant robots that shoot energy before creating gunpowder and firearms

She was supposed to be a fascist, just like how every villain represented some sort of ideology. Like how the Red Lotus were anarchists, Unaalaq was a theocrat and monarch and Amon was a communist.

Fire Nation created giant blimps and bombs before firearms too. Firearms will just never exist in Avatar-verse.

kinda pointless to make firearms when some people literally have fire arms

yes, everyone knows that, whats your point?

so is korra like the fable 2 of cartoons or something?

You can remove probending in its entirety and its impact on the story would be neglible.
That would have been fine if it had been a single episode instead of a fourth of an already packed season.

The writers get praised and free blowjobs for making two chicks hold hands and a bunch of lesbian "hints". If you are gonna go gay, you don't go puritan gay nigga. You shove an angry gay cock down the show's throat and fuck it furiouly, unleashing a rainbow colored fountain of gay semen.
If you are gonna put lesbians, then be explicit about it. Put a full animated kiss or sweaty sex. Your show is about get canned so, might as well go out with a bang.
I'm not defending the shitshow that was Korrasami, but a shitshow can be amusing. That ship shat the bed and did literally jackshit. The porn it spawned wasn't even that good.

>nobody knows what she's supposed to be
>everyone knows what she's supposed to be

Amon wasn't communist he was a cult leader
He constructed a false promise which was that benders are responsible for all the crimes and everyone's problems while ignoring that benders are the only reason the city exists in the first place and that benders work as the same police trying to stop crimes and you couldn't prove him wrong because it was an emotional argument not a logical one
And then he starts a terrorist group who commits crime but that's ok because his crime is different from other people's crimes
I guess there is some Marxism there but there is also a lot of cult ideology in Marxism aswell
Republic's city government was definitely not corrupt Enough for a violent revolution and for all the shit they get other than unmasking him infront of everyone there was very little anyone could have done to fix the problem, it would have been cool to have him arrested and then the culture becomes twice as violent and you didn't fix shit

That's true of 1920's China.

Hell, to a degree that's still true of modern China.

It wasn't visually fun to watch, especially since the rules barely make sense and we never got a clear explanation and Beccause it involves both sides separated from each other throwing rocks around
They could have come up with something better

Sure, America has a few grand cities, but there is a lot poverty and underdeveloped areas. While New York City has skyscrapers, Appalachia is still coated with wooden huts.

The mechs already existed in season one. The spirit vines and the manpower of most of the Earth Kingdom, plus Varrick, helped to accelerate the tech.

The Earth Kingdom was in a civil war for years. Wars are historically a major catalyst for technological development.

Live in Appalachia. Have never seen a literal wooden hut actually in use outside of a nearby Indian Reservation.

I personally feel that what was wrong with the show is that it lacked an overarching goal like TLAB. And while in the line of Avatars they're not going to all have the same epic struggles, for story telling purposes and maybe just because that's the standard the previous show began it works better. It works better for relationships and character growth, it works better for establishing a villain or villains and conflict and it works better for viewer investment. In many ways the first Avatar broke some traditions for western animation and Korra back peddled to make a more serialized ongoing maybe even easier to follow or join in show. People will say how bad it is but I personally feel it's average. It's just that average is a pretty big drop from TLAB.

>If anyone country was going to build a multi-story death robot out of PURE PLATINUM, it would be the impoverished city-states loosely united under a military junta

Alright.
1. How?
2. HOW?

Because with regards to point #1, we lack the technology to do this today. And this isn't even a bit of a stretch, like how their first leap into airplanes had metal fuselages, or like the giant drill that was powered by magic fire, basically. Building a giant robot is such a logistical nightmare that in the current era, nobody can figure out how to make it work. We recently did a commercial robot battle show, and the robots were slow-moving tractors that gently bumped into each other until one of them naturally malfunctioned and lost by default. Giant robots are classically seen and recognized as sci-fi wank, so it's "future tech" even if the tech has no practical future.

2. The exasperated "HOW" comes in because even if you assume they completed R&D for a giant platinum robot within a single lifetime, HOW did they build it when their magic metal-bending powers explicitly don't work on platinum? Did they just take it to a bunch of pre-industrial blacksmiths and ask them to hammer that shit into a giant robot?

His rhetoric was exactly like a communists. Just replace the bourgeois with bending. His entire goal was to bring down the bourgeois, rather than uplift the 'proles'.

Heck, he's even a bender himself, one of the bourgeois. Communism isn't ever spearheaded by the proletariat, it is done by the people who have never worked in the factories, ala Marx, Trotsky and Stalin.

>And then he starts a terrorist group who commits crime but that's ok because his crime is different from other people's crimes

Read up on the Red Army.

You're also precluding the idea that communism and cult thinking are incompatible.

I understand that over the years, American mudslinging has caused a lot of confusion about what Communism is, but for a quick refresher, it's an economic system.

It's a system that specifically believes the most efficient system is one that places all commercial production in the hands of the government, because if everybody collectively worked on and owned the means of production, there wouldn't be the inefficiency or profits. We wouldn't have to worry about rich business owners paying our politicians to give themselves tax cuts while they refuse to increase wages or benefits.

And what it always forgets is that the corruption that allows people to give themselves tax cuts is the same corruption that makes Communism impossible. The corruption is why we need checks and balances and market competition to prevent anyone from legally declaring that they've just outright won the economy, because when that happens everyone else has lost.

Contrary to what you hear on the news, a Democrat being elected is not communism. Transgender bathrooms are not communism. A group that commits genocide is not communism.

What most of things you identify as "communism" share in common with communism is the element of corruption, where sooner or later the thing you "stop" just becomes whatever is acting as a check or balance against your power.

The whole structure isn't made with platinum, just the outer shell.
If they can make a train with a high-speed rail through most of the Earth Kingdom than they can create a metal coat.
The only reason the Colossus can function is because of metalbending. Pliable metal is pooled in the head and runs to all the extremities, which Kuvira controls manually.

1. It's clearly shown that Kuvira is using metorites to metal bend the mech like a marionette. It basically is just a suit she's not wearing. It is literally powered by magic and controlled by magic.

2. Platinum is a soft metal. You can bend (physically not elementally) it with relative ease. Putting a sheet of melted platinum on to a steel plate and bend the plate into the shape you want the platinum to be.

You don't need a hammer and anvil at that point. The entire function of a hammer and anvil is to sandwich a piece of metal between two other pieces of metal and shape it to what you want using force/

Pro tip, I'm not American.

Another pro tip, you can apply communist thinking to literally everything. That's why we have cultural marxism now, the application of marxist thinking to sex, gender, race, etc.

Please fuck off.

>Platinum is a soft metal
I don't think you can actually say anything about what platinum is in Avatar, because they metric fucktons of it, and real platinum is heavy so it's a bit asinine to say "these are its properties" and not acknowledge its real properties only make the show more asinine.

Was it really only a shell? I don't recall them saying that. If it's only a shell, why can't metal benders bend it?

That's cute user.

Know what else you can apply to literally everything? The whine about privilege.

Your ideals are cute, but if you can selectively say everything you dislike is an example of [bad thing] then there was never any point in giving it a term, and you may as well just call it "bad" for all it matters.

>If it's only a shell, why can't metal benders bend it?
Because then Bryke would have to think about what is going on instead of just saying Lin, Su, and Korra can't overpower Kuvira in metalbending.

Well I guess as long as you admit it's a convenient plot hole that makes no fucking sense when you get right down to it, I guess we're on the same page.

If Avatarvese platinum is completely different our platinum then why the fuck did they call it platinum in the first place?

Why didn't they just say titanium which would be much more believable or even just say refined steel? If they said that the mechs were made of titanium alloy then nobody would be bitching about this but they had to say it was platinum and then everyone has to question why.

Earth benders can’t bend platinum, it is too refined. Manual labor, even with the assistance of the machines at the time, could not produce a mech of that size (it’s taller than mountains, Jesus).

Not going to even question how they got all that platinum...

Also, Varrick somehow shitting-out revolutionary technological advancements daily is a cancer of its own.

Well I guess an earthbender just can't bend through platinum. When they were inside Lin and Su could bend freely.

Just the shell. We see Lin bend inside of it.

>it’s taller than mountains, Jesus
That mech's size shifts throughout the episodes. It's never consistent.

It's just the armor that's platinum. We repeatedly see Kuvira control the mech with the liquid meteorites. Controlling it isn't an issue, building it's frame isn't an issue. The only issue is creating the plating but that isn't too far fetched.

They also got the platinum from Su's city's domes. It was explicitly stated.

Okay. But again. You can't say, "Oh, it's a soft metal, all they need to do is lay some sandbags over it and it probably bends itself" (even though I know that's fucking wrong) but then also say they can't bend it by bending the shit underneath it.

How do people bend? Is it like radiation and platinum blocks it like lead blocks radiation? Why does platinum shield against bending? This isn't answering questions, user, it's raising new ones.

1 its an ideology, it isnt even a political system
2 the way its supposed to work is that unions control everything and said unions are suppossed to be controlled by the workers
3 the reason it cant work is because its impossible to achieve without violence and once you introduce violence you end up with a tyrant ruler that only achieved power through violence and only can keep power through violence
4 its an ideology that can be applied to any hierarchy
5 what democrats try to do is take power away from people and give it to the government, they do this by radicalizing people and making them violent and dehumanising people in the outgroup so the abuse seems justified
6 also they shift the overton window so people arent allowed to exercise freedom of speech and tought
7 it doesnt matter if there is any communis, involved, its completely tiranycal and opressive and it breaks the social contract making the rulers be rulers by virtue of being rulers not because anyone choses them not because they are there to represent the population

If you're looking for issues with bending, this particular one isn't exclusive to LoK. Bending is never well defined and there are plot holes about it in AtLAB.

Platinum was only used for plates. Melting it down and pouring it into molds is all that was really needed dude. And since you have metal bending, the molds would be pretty easy to produce.

>Bending is never well defined and there are plot holes about it in AtLAB.
Toph has a disability. She circumvents and works around this in a lot of ways but, despite being a top tier bender, she still has a handicap.

Really shows you how shit the American animation scene is more than anything else to be quite perfectly honest.

>It's an ideology
You're barely grasping this. It's an idealistic economic system. The fact that it's an ideology doesn't preclude it from being an economic system.

>The way it's supposed to work is
Is that government controls the means of production for the people to eliminate the waste of profits. The proposed ways of making this happen varies.
>It can only happen through violence
Or through reforming the government willingly, I suppose. But most governments don't reform willingly and even the US was established through violence.
>It's an ideology that can be applied to any hierarchy
Not sure what you think you mean by "hierarchy", but it pretty explicitly deals in having 100% of the economy being held by the state.
>Democrats take power from the people
Traditionally the term "liberal" in the US has meant they support placing more law-making authority in the hands of the federal government rather than state governments. Giving power to the states doesn't give the people more power necessarily, it merely has the potential to be more efficient if the state has more individual needs that federal laws can't recognize. The rhetoric that deregulation and the abdication of proper rule-making somehow puts power in the hands of "the people" has mainly been part of the corruption process. Someone has to make the rules, and if the government allows a vacuum, someone will fill it.
>They shift the overton window
Is an overton window like a millenium item from Yugi-oh? The fuck are you talking about?
>Communism is tyrannical and oppressive
It gets that way, because communism as a system doesn't provides checks or balances or any natural incentive to inhibit the corruption that leads to its destruction.

Nah, people talk plenty about current stuff. We're just salty bitches.

>Bending is never well defined
See, that's okay. What's not okay is to have bending be fairly undefined, but then start inventing ad-hoc bending rules so you can exploit them in radical ways. You can't have the rules of bending not exist, but then say, "metal bending is done by bending metal impurities, but NOT IN PLATINUM." Like what the fuck is that? Bending iron impurities makes some sense because iron naturally alloys with a lot of stuff, but then if platinum is "pure" even though it also alloys with stuff, what the fuck is an "impurity"?

>Suyin

She is such a fucking smug insufferable cunt jesus christ I hate her as much as that little piece of shit Kai

I feel like metalbending could still help create that. It's likely metalbending helped create the Zaofu domes too, and perhaps close them each night. Maybe e.g. the inner shell has a bendable coat.

Well, Toph couldn't earthbend from inside the metal box too. Is it really so crazy that it'd block their bending? They couldn't feel the bendable metal, couldn't see it. How could they bend it? Metalbending is difficult as is.

Toph was special and it does really make some problems when they decided an entire city of people could do it now.

No, it's pretty consistent outside of that shot

But only a small part of the population does. And it takes years of training to be combat effective with firebending vs a few weeks with a gun. That second part is why guns replaced bows and arrows in real-world armies. At the time, bows were superior weapons.

I kinda like how they sprinkled her with personality. They could've easily just made her "nice fun mom" but really she's a raging nutjob who'll explode your face if you fuck with her.

Toph is still special, she discovered it. But she's not so much of a special snowflake that she's the only person ever who could metalbend. Albeit still difficult, all you need to do is sense the bendable earth inside the metal. Other benders can learn seismic sense so it's not unbelievable.

>That scene
It's been a while, and it really reminds me how stupid LoK got, because at the time I don't think I even batted an eye and how silly it is to take off your armor, throw it around someone's head, and then use that as a way to force them to blow themselves up.

I mean what if she'd had a knife or an arrow or something and just slung it through that lady's neck. You wouldn't have to worry nearly as much about getting the timing right.

The platinum was so thick they needed to build a special robot to cut through it rather than just punching through with something heavy. You would need a literal army of metalbenders inside just to support the internal frame so the goddamn thing doesn't cave in under the weight of its own armor, let alone all it would take to get the fucking thing to stamd erect. Having it WALK? Holy shit, that's right out.

You shouldn't even need to fight the mech at all. Just take out the earthbender platoons that are constantly shifting the ground to keep it from sinking.

>Except for my hell-bent, obsessive drive to destroy all the world's governments, the personal hang-up that explicitly makes me a villain and a problem, I am now free of worldly desires and can fly like Peter Pan!

If you think that's bad don't read the comics.

Except that doesn't kill you right away and the explosion would still go off.

I can't even remember who she was going to kill. Was it Korra?

I|t's not even subtle that she is Sokka's kid, right?

Wait, a GIANT ROBOT now exsists in the avatar universe? Im glad i didnt watch this shit.

In a setting with metal bending being a thing, this is your complaint? Bullshit uses of bullshit powers? Really?